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For all his managerial and executive ability, President Hoover was often awkward and uncomfortable in his dealings with people.

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b) For all that he was an able manager and executive

c) Despite him being an able manager and executive

d) Able as he was in being a manager and executive

e) Even having managerial and executive abilities



She is pretty for her age.
Does "for" in this question have the same meaning as the example above?
If it doesn't, what does it mean in the context of the sentence?
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For all his managerial and executive ability, President Hoover was often awkward and uncomfortable in his dealings with people.

a)

b) For all that he was an able manager and executive

c) Despite him being an able manager and executive

d) Able as he was in being a manager and executive

e) Even having managerial and executive abilities



She is pretty for her age.
Does "for" in this question have the same meaning as the example above?
If it doesn't, what does it mean in the context of the sentence?


Yes, for has the same meaning as your example sentence. You could substitue the word "Despite" and the meaning would be the same.

Even though this is an old question (paper test), it has some good meaning elements.

A - This option is grammatically correct and has sensible meaning - "Despite managerial strenghts, Hoover was awkward with people".
B - This phrase really doesn't have a sensible meaning at all.
C - I like the word "Despite" more than "for", but the GMAT threw in "being" to invalidate the answer. This choice comes in an old test when "being" was always wrong on the GMAT.
D - Different construction that could work out from a meaning standpoint, but we have the same issue with "being" as we see in C.
E - "Even" doesn't convey the same meaning as "for" or "despite". It's close, but "even" doesn't show the sharp contract between ability and awkwardness.

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'For' in your example is a conjunction and 'for' in the question you posted acts as a preposition. Its a prepositional phrase and an idiom as well.
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Can someone please explain why A is right.
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"For all his executive and managerial ability"...
I was stuck between A and D. The only reason I chose D, despite it being wordy was that I thought "ability" should be "abilities".
Can someone please clarify this?
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KyleWiddison wrote:
For all his managerial and executive ability, President Hoover was often awkward and uncomfortable in his dealings with people.
Yes, for has the same meaning as your example sentence. You could substitue the word "Despite" and the meaning would be the same.

Even though this is an old question (paper test), it has some good meaning elements.

A - This option is grammatically correct and has sensible meaning - "Despite managerial strenghts, Hoover was awkward with people".
B - This phrase really doesn't have a sensible meaning at all.
C - I like the word "Despite" more than "for", but the GMAT threw in "being" to invalidate the answer. This choice comes in an old test when "being" was always wrong on the GMAT.
D - Different construction that could work out from a meaning standpoint, but we have the same issue with "being" as we see in C.
E - "Even" doesn't convey the same meaning as "for" or "despite". It's close, but "even" doesn't show the sharp contract between ability and awkwardness.

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A and C both looked good for me and I went with C somehow... Can you please educate me why C is deemed to be wrong? Thanks.
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A and C both looked good for me and I went with C somehow... Can you please educate me why C is deemed to be wrong? Thanks.


C totally changes the meaning of the original sentence. The original sentence never says that he was "manager and executive"; he just had those "abilities".
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A and C both looked good for me and I went with C somehow... Can you please educate me why C is deemed to be wrong? Thanks.


C totally changes the meaning of the original sentence. The original sentence never says that he was "manager and executive"; he just had those "abilities".

Many mention that 'being' is an automatic disqualifier in most of the cases... In other posts a few were mentioning 'being' is not wrong in all the cases..... When can we expect the use of 'being'? Do you have any idea?
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This post might help

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saumya12 wrote:
Amateur wrote:
A and C both looked good for me and I went with C somehow... Can you please educate me why C is deemed to be wrong? Thanks.


C totally changes the meaning of the original sentence. The original sentence never says that he was "manager and executive"; he just had those "abilities".

Many mention that 'being' is an automatic disqualifier in most of the cases... In other posts a few were mentioning 'being' is not wrong in all the cases..... When can we expect the use of 'being'? Do you have any idea?

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