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For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens whom they serve than either public or private non-profit ones. At the same time, relative to non-profit Social Organizations, for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid, such as food grants and guaranteed loans, for the people they serve. It must be, then, that for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

The conclusion above depends on which of the following assumptions?

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.
B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.
C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.
D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.
E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.
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14 Mar 2013, 20:47
my take C
for if C is not true then conclusion that proportion of people catered by for profit is more will fall apart
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15 Mar 2013, 04:12
B for me..

IMO it is assumed that whatever funds for profit organization draws from Federal and state aids is spent to serve financially weak citizen, that is they do not draw unneeded funds through frauds, and hence since they draw more they serve more....I am not clear with the word disproportionate here...It could be vice versa of what I assumed...
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For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens whom they serve than either public or private non-profit ones. At the same time, relative to non-profit Social Organizations, for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid, such as food grants and guaranteed loans, for the people they serve. It must be, then, that for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

The conclusion above depends on which of the following assumptions?

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.
B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.
C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.
D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.
E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.

Conclusion :- for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations

Premise :-
1. For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens than either public or private non-profit ones
2. for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid than non-profit Social Organizations do

Prethinking :- The aid used by for-profit is used only for catering the citizens they serve and not for other purposes.

POE :-
Option A :- talks about only non profit organizations
Option B :- Correct
Option C :- talks about people benefited, the scope of the passage is people catered
Option D :- talks about quality for some segments between for-profit and non-profit organizations
Option E :- talks about the background of citizens catered by for-profit organizations.

IMO :- B
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IMO B.

Facts:
For-profit Social Organizations serve fewer citizens than non-profit.
For-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid.

Conclusion:
For-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.

A) Not relevant to the conclusion. Actually this option weakens the conclusion.
B) CORRECT.
C) The passage says: "For-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share".
If "The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.", the share would not be disproportionate.
D) Out of scope.
E) Out of scope as well.
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15 Mar 2013, 07:40
Hi
The argument presents a relative comparision between profit and profit social org. serving older citizens. In its conclusion author concludes that since profit social org draws more funds from govt. they must be serving greater no of financially disadvantaged citizens.

So the answer must be B.
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16 Mar 2013, 03:17
Clearly B..................600-700 level
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For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens whom they serve than either public or private non-profit ones. At the same time, relative to non-profit Social Organizations, for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid, such as food grants and guaranteed loans, for the people they serve. It must be, then, that for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

The conclusion above depends on which of the following assumptions?

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.
B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.
C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.
D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.
E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.

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The argument concludes that for-profit Social Organizations serve a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations. This conclusion is based on the fact that citizens at for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid. The argument assumes a link between the proportion of aid received and the proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens enrolled. In so doing, it assumes that there are not other possible reasons for the disproportionate aid distribution.

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.

The conclusion makes a claim about the differences between for-profit and non-profit Social Organizations. Differences among non-profit Social Organizations – such as public vs. private – are irrelevant to the argument.

B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.

Correct. One alternative reason that might explain the disproportionate aid distribution is that for-profit Social Organizations engaged in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded financial assistance for the citizens they serve. If this were true, then much of the aid was distributed based not on the actual financial situation of the citizens but on the ability of Social Organizations to defraud federal and state governments. This answer choice asserts that this was NOT in fact the case, thereby eliminating this alternative explanation and highlighting a key assumption on which the argument rests.

C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.

The argument's claim is centered on proportions. The actual number of citizens receiving aid at for-profit vs. non-profit Social Organizations is irrelevant to the conclusion.

D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.

The relative residential or educational quality of for-profit vs. non-profit Social Organizations lies outside the scope of the argument, which is focused solely on differences in financial aid distribution.

E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.

The issue addressed by the argument is the amount of financial aid distributed to citizens at two types of institutions. Whether citizens have a bad credit history or a criminal record is immaterial to the claim made in the argument.

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Good stuff Vercules
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02 Jun 2013, 21:57
I had a tough time negating C and chose C instead of B during the exam. Can anyone please point out why C is out of scope?

Wouldn't proportions be based on numbers?

I disagree that "cater" and "benefited" are different from each other.
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I had a tough time negating C and chose C instead of B during the exam. Can anyone please point out why C is out of scope?

Wouldn't proportions be based on numbers?

I disagree that "cater" and "benefited" are different from each other.

I was completely on the Option C bandwagon while taking the test, but I now see that C lacks one very important piece of info - "Financially Disadvantaged citizens"

The conclusion is based on this sub-section of the overall population of citizens and option C does not really help say that this is the case. Since I had the same doubt you had, I could explain this as being the reason.

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Premise 1: For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens
Premise 2: But for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid for the people they serve.
Conclusion: For-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

We need to find a defender assumption here that closes any gap in the conclusion. [to distinguish between “denfender assumption and “supporter assumption”, please read CR power score – Bible]

we connect premise 1 and 2:

For profit social organizations (FP-Org) serve fewer citizens, but draw a disproportionate share of financial aid ==> Conclude: FP-orgs serve more financially disadvantaged citizens. [Because NO new information in the conclusion, so we realize that the defender assumption will be asked.]

Clearly, we see a big GAP. What if those citizens are NOT financially disadvantaged, but they still try to get financial aid from Federal? If that’s true, the conclusion above fails. To close this gap, we need to assume financial aid will be used properly.

ANALYZE EACH ANSWER:

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.
Wrong. Similar proportion ==> cannot conclude FP-org serve more financially disadvantaged citizens.

B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.
Correct. B closes the Gap by assuming that financial aid is used properly.

C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.
Wrong. SHELL GAME.More people get financial aid DOES NOT mean more financially disadvantaged people. C is only correct if those citizens are REAL financially disadvantaged. What if they engage in fraud? ==> The conclusion is broken.

D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.
Wrong. Out of scope.

E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.
Wrong. Out of scope.

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Premise 1: For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens
Premise 2: But for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid for the people they serve.
Conclusion: For-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

We need to find a defender assumption here that closes any gap in the conclusion. [to distinguish between “denfender assumption and “supporter assumption”, please read CR power score – Bible]

we connect premise 1 and 2:

For profit social organizations (FP-Org) serve fewer citizens, but draw a disproportionate share of financial aid ==> Conclude: FP-orgs serve more financially disadvantaged citizens. [Because NO new information in the conclusion, so we realize that the defender assumption will be asked.]

Clearly, we see a big GAP. What if those citizens are NOT financially disadvantaged, but they still try to get financial aid from Federal? If that’s true, the conclusion above fails. To close this gap, we need to assume financial aid will be used properly.

ANALYZE EACH ANSWER:

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens.
Wrong. Similar proportion ==> cannot conclude FP-org serve more financially disadvantaged citizens.

B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.
Correct. B closes the Gap by assuming that financial aid is used properly.

C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.
Wrong. SHELL GAME.More people get financial aid DOES NOT mean more financially disadvantaged people. C is only correct if those citizens are REAL financially disadvantaged. What if they engage in fraud? ==> The conclusion is broken.

D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.
Wrong. Out of scope.

E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.
Wrong. Out of scope.

Hope it helps.

Seriously what does
in order to in help the people they serve.
means. None of the options are valid.
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That's a really nice way to find the difficulty level of a question!
I think it is around 700
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P1:For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens whom they serve than either public or private non-profit ones.
P2:At the same time, relative to non-profit Social Organizations, for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid, such as food grants and guaranteed loans, for the people they serve.
Conclusion: It must be, then, that for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

the reason behind drawing disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid is that for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens

in cause and effect reasoning it is assumed that the cause is the only possible cause. here it means that there is no reason other that catering to greater proportion of disadvantaged citizens.

The conclusion above depends on which of the following assumptions?

A) Public non-profit Social Organizations and private non-profit Social Organizations serve a similar proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens. the conclusion is about for-profit Social Organization

B) For-profit Social Organizations do not engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid in order to in help the people they serve.

C) The number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at for-profit Social Organizations is greater than the number of citizens that get benefited from federal and state financial aid at non-profit Social Organizations.the type of aid citizens received at these Organizations are irrelevant

D) For-profit Social Organizations are of similar residential and educational quality as non-profit Social Organizations.

E) The majority of citizens that are served at for-profit Social Organizations do not have a past criminal record or a bad credit history.
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this question does not seem correct

i feel that the assumption of this argument should have been: For-profit Social Organizations do not spend money that they receive for purposes other than helping financially disadvantaged citizens

the conclusion is: for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations.

premise 1: For-profit Social Organizations serve far fewer citizens whom they serve than either public or private non-profit ones

premise 2: relative to non-profit Social Organizations, for-profit Social Organizations draw a disproportionate share of federal and state financial aid, such as food grants and guaranteed loans, for the people they serve

i fail to understand as how B can be answer here? even if For-profit Social Organizations do engage in fraudulent practices to obtain unneeded federal and state financial aid then also the argument will hold

on the other hand if we say that For-profit Social Organizations do spend money that they receive for purposes other than helping financially disadvantaged citizens THEN we cannot make the conclusion that for-profit Social Organizations cater to a greater proportion of financially disadvantaged citizens than do non-profit Social Organizations
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My bet is B. All other answers are irrelevant. If for profit organizations do not get the funds by fraudulent wants and o not waste them, then it must be that they spend them on disadvantaged students, which logically concurs with the last sentence of the passage.
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