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# For the last five years, the XYZ Courier Company has made

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26 Jul 2011, 04:44
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For the last five years, the XYZ Courier Company has made regular delivery trips between Town A and Town B. The average time taken by the company’s drivers to drive the round trip between the two towns, excluding the time taken for loading, unloading, and delivery, over that period has been 80 minutes. John, a driver for XYZ, needs to make a personal trip between the two towns; he figures that he should allow approximately 80 minutes for the round trip.

Which of the following, if true, does not call John’s conclusion into question?

a) The route between Town A and Town B has been plagued by increasing congestion over the last five years, as the area's population has doubled during that time.

b) Most of XYZ’s courier vehicles are heavy trucks, for which speed limits are lower than for passenger vehicles.

c) Many of the packages carried by XYZ between Town A and Town B are large, high-security packages, for which the processes of loading, unloading, and delivery can take up to half the length of the trip itself.

d) John will make his personal trip at an hour when XYZ does not make delivery trips.

e) Before a freeway was built between Town A and Town B two years ago, the only routes between the two towns were state highways with multiple traffic lights and reduced-speed downtown zones.

Can someone explain what exactly is the question calls for?

Calls into question means Weakens an argument. Doesn't call into question is the opposite- Strengthens.

Question type: WeakensX

John thinks it would take him 80 minutes for the entire trip. All but one of the options prove his thinking wrong and here's how:

a) The route between Town A and Town B has been plagued by increasing congestion over the last five years, as the area's population has doubled during that time.
>>>It gives a reason to suspect that the present state of road will cause him more time.
Just a hypothetical scenario:
5 years back-> No congestion-> Speed 130 mph
Now-> Congestion-> Speed 30 mph
Average-> 80 mph
Thus, average speed for last five years is not a good basis to judge the travel time today. Weakens.

b) Most of XYZ’s courier vehicles are heavy trucks, for which speed limits are lower than for passenger vehicles.
>>>John will be traveling in a passenger car and can potentially travel faster because of less restriction. The travel time can thus be significantly lower.

c) Many of the packages carried by XYZ between Town A and Town B are large, high-security packages, for which the processes of loading, unloading, and delivery can take up to half the length of the trip itself.
>>> average time was calculated "excluding the time taken for loading, unloading, and delivery, over that period has been 80 minutes." Thus, this doesn't weaken his guess.

d) John will make his personal trip at an hour when XYZ does not make delivery trips.
Night times; free road. Faster travel time compared to the travel time during the day when the delivery happens.

Sorry for the stupid question but how can we assume that delivery happens only during the day time or any other time at which the company XYZ doesn't make delivery trips the traffic would be less - Could you please explain?

e) Before a freeway was built between Town A and Town B two years ago, the only routes between the two towns were state highways with multiple traffic lights and reduced-speed downtown zones.
2 years back-> bad speed-> maybe 50
Now->110 mph
John can make the trip more quickly.
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Ans: "C"

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26 Jul 2011, 09:13
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d) John will make his personal trip at an hour when XYZ does not make delivery trips.
Night times; free road. Faster travel time compared to the travel time during the day when the delivery happens.

Sorry for the stupid question but how can we assume that delivery happens only during the day time or any other time at which the company XYZ doesn't make delivery trips the traffic would be less - Could you please explain?

No we can't assume so. I just presented this hypothetical scenario to instantiate what the statement is trying to convey.

A more generalized interpretation would be:

Because John makes the trip at an hour different from usual delivery hour, the traffic condition may be different, affecting his commuting time.
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26 Jul 2011, 09:44
fluke wrote:
UtterNonsense wrote:
d) John will make his personal trip at an hour when XYZ does not make delivery trips.
Night times; free road. Faster travel time compared to the travel time during the day when the delivery happens.

Sorry for the stupid question but how can we assume that delivery happens only during the day time or any other time at which the company XYZ doesn't make delivery trips the traffic would be less - Could you please explain?

No we can't assume so. I just presented this hypothetical scenario to instantiate what the statement is trying to convey.

A more generalized interpretation would be:

Because John makes the trip at an hour different from usual delivery hour, the traffic condition may be different, affecting his commuting time.

Aaah... that rings the bell. Thanks!
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27 Jul 2011, 11:57
C. As this time is already accounted for it has no effect on the estimation.
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07 Aug 2011, 02:09
"C" for me
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12 Aug 2011, 04:50

The official answer explanation is as below:
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John assumes that his round-trip driving time between the two towns will be similar to XYZ’s average time, over the last five years, for the same round trip. Therefore, John’s conclusion will be weakened by (a) any systematic difference between John’s personal trip and XYZ’s company trips, or (b) any reason why the five-year average is not representative of the time currently required to drive between the two towns.

(A) If this statement is true, then the five-year average commute time will not be representative of the current commute time, since the increasing congestion will have raised the current commute time to a level greater than the five-year average.

(B)If most of XYZ’s courier vehicles are subject to speed limits lower than those for commuter automobiles, then the courier vehicles’ commute time will probably be longer than John’s commute time in his personal vehicle.

(C) Correct
The cited round-trip time specifically excludes the time required for loading, unloading, and delivery, so the length of time taken by these tasks is irrelevant to the conclusion at hand.

(D) Since traffic patterns are highly dependent upon the time of day, the given 80-minute average cannot necessarily be expected to hold at times when XYZ does not make deliveries.

(E) If this statement is true, then, for the first three years of the five-year period in question, the transit time between the two towns would have been much longer than that for the last two years of the period (and thus the current time). Therefore, in this case, the five-year average will not be representative of the current time.

I got two points here :
1.I understand that we need to pick a choice that has got no effect on the conclusion. So, it has got nothing to do whether an option that strengthems or weakens the conclusion. The right explanation should read as marked above instead of weakened , it should use "affected"

2. I found the question ambiguous in that there is no way to tell from the q. stem if John will use his own personal vehicle or the company truck. So,this clouded my reasoning.

But I guess the way to deal with this kind of complex stuff like this is to take a simplistic approach and then attack the choices.

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12 Aug 2011, 05:14
Got E at first try but C souds right as in does not matter to the conclusion!
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16 Aug 2011, 08:21
C from me, for the reason we are asked to weaken the conclusion of John, if something is true

Conclusion : John should allow approximately 80 minutes for the round trip.

Premise: company’s drivers to drive the round trip between the two towns is 80 mins. ( excluding the time taken for loading, unloading, and delivery)

A: out of queston
B: Out of scope : condition seems good but can be argued in multiple ways both (true and false)
C: Correct: for the reason, if we assume that if the premise is changed this can weaken the conclusion of John. ( excluding the time taken for loading, unloading, and delivery)
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19 Aug 2011, 11:55
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+1 C

However, I think this question is not well constructed. The argument should mention that the average is based on the 5-years period.

Had the same issue. Even though I chose C eventually, the average-definition is rather vague
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The answer is C; however, bear my ignorance, my point is that as per the question "does not call John’s conclusion into question" can be interpreted as choose an option that doesn't call John's conclusion that he can cover the round trip in 80 mins into question or doesn't weakens the conclusion. Taking this into consideration, B also points out the courier vehicles are slow as they carry heavy goods and the courier vehicles take 80 mins. Thus, John going on a personal journey can definitely cover the trip in less than 80 mins. So, B also doesn't weaken the conclusion

If you predict that you would score approximately 750 in GMAT.

Scoring an 800 or a 700 would both be considered bad prediction. This argument is similar.

80 mph means 80 mph.
both 130 mph AND 30 mph are bad result.

fluke nailed it. What makes this question hard is - to understand that taking less time than 80 mins. also calls John's conclusion into question. This thought just doesn't occur under timed conditions and folks engage in only one direction i.e. what answer choices say that John will take more time than expected. Everyone easily eliminates options A and B, after that struggles with C,D and E.

A and B - say he will take more time.
D and E - say he will take less time.

C - is neutral/doesn't affect and hence the answer.

Took time to fully decouple this, including multiple readings. Happy to have finally got it!
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We are looking for variables between regular delivery trips and personal trip.

c) Many of the packages carried by XYZ between Town A and Town B are large, high-security packages, for which the processes of loading, unloading, and delivery can take up to half the length of the trip itself. => ruled out.

IMO A & E is also not weakener.
a) The route between Town A and Town B has been plagued by increasing congestion over the last five years, as the area's population has doubled during that time. => this situation applied to both regular delivery trips and personal trip so we can't sat say that this will make a difference in time for personal trip.

e) Before a freeway was built between Town A and Town B two years ago, the only routes between the two towns were state highways with multiple traffic lights and reduced-speed downtown zones. => you have no idea if both regular delivery trips and personal trip are made on same highway or a different one. We are assuming a lot here.

For reference :

A physically active lifestyle has been shown to help increase longevity. In the Wistar region of Bellaria, the average age at death is considerably higher than in any other part of the country. Wistar is the only mountainous part of Bellaria. A mountainous terrain makes even such basic activities as walking relatively strenuous; it essentially imposes a physically active lifestyle on people. Clearly, this circumstance explains the long lives of people in Wistar.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A) In Bellaria all medical expenses are paid by the government, so that personal income does not affect the quality of health care a person receives.
B) The Wistar region is one of Bellaria, s least populated regions.
C) Many people who live in the Wistar region have moved there in middle age or upon retirement.
D) The many opportunities for hiking, skiing, and other outdoor activities that Wistar's mountains offer make it a favorite destination for vacationing Bellarians.
E) Per capita spending on recreational activities is no higher in Wistar than it is in other regions of Bellaria.

In this question, A is not weakener because we are looking for a certain variable between whole bellaria and a part of bellaria, wistar. As option A talks about whole Bellaria, we can't considered that as a weakener.

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For the last five years, the XYZ Courier Company has made regular delivery trips between Town A and Town B. The average time taken by the company’s drivers to drive the round trip between the two towns, excluding the time taken for loading, unloading, and delivery, over that period has been 80 minutes. John, a driver for XYZ, needs to make a personal trip between the two towns; he figures that he should allow approximately 80 minutes for the round trip.

Which of the following, if true, does not call John’s conclusion into question?

a) The route between Town A and Town B has been plagued by increasing congestion over the last five years, as the area's population has doubled during that time.

b) Most of XYZ’s courier vehicles are heavy trucks, for which speed limits are lower than for passenger vehicles.

c) Many of the packages carried by XYZ between Town A and Town B are large, high-security packages, for which the processes of loading, unloading, and delivery can take up to half the length of the trip itself.

d) John will make his personal trip at an hour when XYZ does not make delivery trips.

e) Before a freeway was built between Town A and Town B two years ago, the only routes between the two towns were state highways with multiple traffic lights and reduced-speed downtown zones.

What is the question type? Assumption / Strengthen / Weaken ?

What is that ans choice C is trying to say?

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undoubtedly C is the correct answer.
C has nothing to do with the length of the trip John plans to have...

A. this would question the assumption. it might be true that before, the trucks were making a round trip in 20 minutes, but as the population increased, the new time might be, say 150 minutes. when averaging for all 5 years, we might get to 80...but it does not represent the current situation.
B. this would question the conclusion;
D. it might mean less traffic, thus, weaken the conclusion;
E. it might be true that new freeway was built in the last year. since the average time of the trips is for the all 5 years, it might be true that now, trucks take less time for the roundtrip.
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