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Could not get idea behind Not using Present Progressive .
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Re: For years ,Employees had seen what they pay toward health [#permalink]
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Could not get idea behind Not using Present Progressive .


Although [D] is also wrong because of incorrect pronoun - "as companies asks it to contribute" - where it is referred incorrectly to Employees.

Present Continous will not be correct here because of time marker - "For years" in the Non-underlined past.

For years - suggests that the event has been carried over from past and it is continued in Present also.

Progressive is about an event actually happening right now, but the event discussed has happened over a time gradually.
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“Have been seeing” is - present perfect continuous -; has seen is present perfect . Both are equally fitting in this case. In the given context the present perfect continuous “Have been seeing” is even better than the present perfect tense – have seen – But unfortunately, as some other member has pointed out, D, the choice that uses – have been seeing- indulges in a gross pronoun error.
Between C and E that use the next best – have seen - , E is wrong for using the gerund ‘increasing’ in the place of ‘increases’.
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1. the action is continued from past. So correct choice shoild have 'have seen'. A and B wrong.
2. D uses 'it' to refer employees. Wrong.
3. Among C and E,

E changes the meaning a little by using present continuous tense, where we need simple present tense.

So C is right.
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Re: For years, employees had seen what they pay toward health [#permalink]
Original sentence has subject verb as well as tense issue..
The original sentence says...the payments had increased for years but now ceased to increase...
Employees have seen something(what they pay toward health care/payments) increase....
C solves both issues...
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Thanks Ashish. I got usage of increase over here.


Is it compulsory to use have been over here? What about this sentence was said by professor in a class? We have for rather then since over here.



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Actually increase/increases is a non-issue here, since increase is not used as a verb in this sentence. Technically, it is called a bare infinitive (the infinitive to increase, without the word to). Since the structure of infinitives is: to + the basic form of the verb, to increases is an incorrect construct, because increase is the basic form of the verb; hence, in the bare infinitive usage also, increases would be incorrect.

From an understanding perspective, the structure of the sentence is like this:

For years, employees have seen <prices> increase.

prices would be a noun; similarly, instead of prices, what is mentioned in this sentence is: what they pay toward health care . So, the sentence is:

For years, employees have seen <what they pay toward health care> increase.

Similar to:

Jack watched his friend play.
Jack watched his friends play.
People have seen <something> increase
.

As is evident, it doesn't matter whether we have singular (friend) or plural (friends), the bare infinitive remains the same: play.

p.s. I don't believe test takers need to develop concept in bare infinitives. The reason I highlighted it was to make sure that it is understood that we cannot analyze increase from a subject verb agreement perspective here, because increase is not used as a verb here.
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Is it compulsory to use have been over here?

Am slightly confused by this, because the correct answer uses have seen (and not have been).

have seen is present perfect tense and is appropriate here. For example:

People have seen corruption increase for many years now.
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Sorry i mean have seen.

I understood why usage of have seen is correct; however, in b is the usage of saw correct?

what is the error in B? is it usage of ask rather then asked?

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rohitmanglik wrote:
Is it compulsory to use have been over here?

Am slightly confused by this, because the correct answer uses have seen (and not have been).

have seen is present perfect tense and is appropriate here. For example:

People have seen corruption increase for many years now.
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in b is the usage of saw correct?

what is the error in B? is it usage of ask rather then asked?

Hi Rohit, saw is simple past, while the usage here suggests that present perfect (have seen) should be used.

For example, would you say:

i) For years, India has not won any major cricket series overseas.

Or

ii) For years, India did not win any major cricket series overseas.

i) should be your answer choice, because this event (of India not winning any major cricket series overseas) is something that is still true. This is one of the primary usages of present perfect.

On the other hand, simple past is used to depict events that started and finished in the past. So, if we use ii), it would mean that while India did not win any major cricket series overseas in the past, that trend perhaps got reversed.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses various usages of present perfect, their application and examples in significant detail. If someone is interested, PM me your email-id, I can mail the corresponding section.
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