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Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and have a serious doubt about OA provided.
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The metropolitan cooking academy surveyed prospective students and found that students wanted a curriculum that focused on today's healthy dining trends. In order to reverse the trend of declining interest in the school's programs, administrators propose a series of new courses focused on cooking exotic species of fish, alternative grains such as quinoa, and organically produced vegetables.

Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?

A) cooking fish, grains, and vegetables relies on same culinary fundamentals as does the preparation of other ingredients.
B) In the food and beverage industry, many employers no longer have time to train apprentices and therefore demand basic culinary skills from their new hires.
C) Local producers in the area near the Metropolitan cooking academy are excellent sources of exotic fish and organic vegetables.
D) Many other cooking schools have found a decline in the level of interest in their program.
E) Many advocates of healthy dining stress the importance of including fish, grains and organically produced vegetables in one's diet.
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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2012, 11:29
I am no expert. but this is my explanation. I have a doubt that this is an official level question (just an opinion)

The argument - Prospective students want courses that stress on healthy dining needs.
If new courses stress on cooking exotic fish/alt grains/etc., decline in interest in programs will be reduced. - this has to be strengthened.

A. this does not matter. whether the cooking relies on same fundamentals or other is of no relevance. It in no way increases interest.
B. Culinary skills is of no relevance.
C. This just wants to say that because local producers are excellent source, hence plan will work. Even though they are excellent sources, how does it increase interest?
D. So, this is trying to show that because other schools have found a decline, this school will get increased interest.
E. Because advocates of healthy dining (so can include students) want to include fish/etc. in one's diet, hence they are likely to study programs concerned with fish/etc. This makes a link between healthy dining (the need of students) and the fish/etc. (the new courses). So quite logically.

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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2012, 11:54
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The metropolitan cooking academy surveyed prospective students and found that students wanted a curriculum that focused on today's healthy dining trends. In order to reverse the trend of declining interest in the school's programs, administrators propose a series of new courses focused on cooking exotic species of fish, alternative grains such as quinoa, and organically produced vegetables.

Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?

A) cooking fish, grains, and vegetables relies on same culinary fundamentals as does the preparation of other ingredients.
B) In the food and beverage industry, many employers no longer have time to train apprentices and therefore demand basic culinary skills from their new hires.
C) Local producers in the area near the Metropolitan cooking academy are excellent sources of exotic fish and organic vegetables.
D) Many other cooking schools have found a decline in the level of interest in their program.
E) Many advocates of healthy dining stress the importance of including fish, grains and organically produced vegetables in one's diet.


Between A & E.

A - Weaken
E- Strengthen

Question
Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking
academy?

I am thinking if the question looks below, then it is strengthen
Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?
Does this mean to strengthen / weaken?

If the word suspect is added, then is it weaken? Can someone explain?
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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2012, 20:31
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I am no expert. but this is my explanation. I have a doubt that this is an official level question (just an opinion)

The argument - Prospective students want courses that stress on healthy dining needs.
If new courses stress on cooking exotic fish/alt grains/etc., decline in interest in programs will be reduced. - this has to be strengthened.

A. this does not matter. whether the cooking relies on same fundamentals or other is of no relevance. It in no way increases interest.
B. Culinary skills is of no relevance.
C. This just wants to say that because local producers are excellent source, hence plan will work. Even though they are excellent sources, how does it increase interest?
D. So, this is trying to show that because other schools have found a decline, this school will get increased interest.
E. Because advocates of healthy dining (so can include students) want to include fish/etc. in one's diet, hence they are likely to study programs concerned with fish/etc. This makes a link between healthy dining (the need of students) and the fish/etc. (the new courses). So quite logically.

I hope it helps.

Thanks talismaaniac, however seems that probably you dint read the question stem.. E actually supports the argument rather than providing any reason 'to suspect'.
This doesnt help to clear my doubt.
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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2012, 20:32
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The metropolitan cooking academy surveyed prospective students and found that students wanted a curriculum that focused on today's healthy dining trends. In order to reverse the trend of declining interest in the school's programs, administrators propose a series of new courses focused on cooking exotic species of fish, alternative grains such as quinoa, and organically produced vegetables.

Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?

A) cooking fish, grains, and vegetables relies on same culinary fundamentals as does the preparation of other ingredients.
B) In the food and beverage industry, many employers no longer have time to train apprentices and therefore demand basic culinary skills from their new hires.
C) Local producers in the area near the Metropolitan cooking academy are excellent sources of exotic fish and organic vegetables.
D) Many other cooking schools have found a decline in the level of interest in their program.
E) Many advocates of healthy dining stress the importance of including fish, grains and organically produced vegetables in one's diet.


Between A & E.

A - Weaken
E- Strengthen

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Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking
academy?

I am thinking if the question looks below, then it is strengthen
Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?
Does this mean to strengthen / weaken?

If the word suspect is added, then is it weaken? Can someone explain?

Exactly my point!
Either question is clearly incorrect on Veritas CAT, or we are missing something clevely hidden. Can any expert reply?
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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2012, 22:39
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I would choose A.
My take:
premise-the students are interested in healthy dining habits
Premise-to renew interest, the academy introduces cuz
What we are supposed to do- to prove that academy would will not succeed.
Only A provides a valid point that the dishes the academy has introduced needs the same cooking skill as the other dishes. Since the students wanted a healthy diet to learn, they will consider it another unhealthy diet.As a result, their plan will fail.
E actually strengthens the argument.
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Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and have a serious doubt about OA provided.
Would request experts to take a look and suggest explanation:

The metropolitan cooking academy surveyed prospective students and found that students wanted a curriculum that focused on today's healthy dining trends. In order to reverse the trend of declining interest in the school's programs, administrators propose a series of new courses focused on cooking exotic species of fish, alternative grains such as quinoa, and organically produced vegetables.

Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?

A) cooking fish, grains, and vegetables relies on same culinary fundamentals as does the preparation of other ingredients.
B) In the food and beverage industry, many employers no longer have time to train apprentices and therefore demand basic culinary skills from their new hires.
C) Local producers in the area near the Metropolitan cooking academy are excellent sources of exotic fish and organic vegetables.
D) Many other cooking schools have found a decline in the level of interest in their program.
E) Many advocates of healthy dining stress the importance of including fish, grains and organically produced vegetables in one's diet.


I suspect that the word 'suspect' confused you!

What does the following sentence mean?
I suspect that the rates will go down.

It means that you believe that it is probable that the rates will go down. It does not mean that you doubt that the rates will go down.

Similarly, what does this mean?
What supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?
This means 'which option gives the best reason for you to believe that the proposed new course will increase interest.'

You have to strengthen the belief that the interest will increase. Hope it all works out now. Option (E) links fish, grains and organic veges to healthy dining.
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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 27 Oct 2012, 23:15
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Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and have a serious doubt about OA provided.
Would request experts to take a look and suggest explanation:

The metropolitan cooking academy surveyed prospective students and found that students wanted a curriculum that focused on today's healthy dining trends. In order to reverse the trend of declining interest in the school's programs, administrators propose a series of new courses focused on cooking exotic species of fish, alternative grains such as quinoa, and organically produced vegetables.

Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?

A) cooking fish, grains, and vegetables relies on same culinary fundamentals as does the preparation of other ingredients.
B) In the food and beverage industry, many employers no longer have time to train apprentices and therefore demand basic culinary skills from their new hires.
C) Local producers in the area near the Metropolitan cooking academy are excellent sources of exotic fish and organic vegetables.
D) Many other cooking schools have found a decline in the level of interest in their program.
E) Many advocates of healthy dining stress the importance of including fish, grains and organically produced vegetables in one's diet.


I suspect that the word 'suspect' confused you!

What does the following sentence mean?
I suspect that the rates will go down.

It means that you believe that it is probable that the rates will go down. It does not mean that you doubt that the rates will go down.

Similarly, what does this mean?
What supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?
This means 'which option gives the best reason for you to believe that the proposed new course will increase interest.'

You have to strengthen the belief that the interest will increase. Hope it all works out now. Option (E) links fish, grains and organic veges to healthy dining.


Powerscore CR Bible, Chapter 6, page number 111-
Name of the chapter- Weaken questions
Quoting their lines-"...keep the following rules in mind when approaching Weaken questions:
1).......
2).......
3).......The information in the stimulus is SUSPECT. Their are often reasoning errors present, and you must read the argument very carefully."



Now my doubt is that if "suspect" means to strengthen, then why powerscore used this information in this chapter.
Even I have also observed for the first time that "suspect" means "strenthen".
Please karishma, let me know if I am missing something.
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Powerscore CR Bible, Chapter 6, page number 111-
Name of the chapter- Weaken questions
Quoting their lines-"...keep the following rules in mind when approaching Weaken questions:
1).......
2).......
3).......The information in the stimulus is SUSPECT. Their are often reasoning errors present, and you must read the argument very carefully."



Now my doubt is that if "suspect" means to strengthen, then why powerscore used this information in this chapter.
Even I have also observed for the first time that "suspect" means "strenthen".
Please karishma, let me know if I am missing something.


Kindly do not learn particular words and try to tag the questions based on those words only.
When you have the word 'support' in the question stem, it doesn't mean it is a strengthen question. You have to figure out whether it is a strengthen or an inference question.

Similarly, just because the word 'suspect' appeared in the question stem, it doesn't mean you immediately bracket it as a weaken question.
Suspect does mean doubt as in 'I suspect his intentions.'

But the meaning is different in this case 'They suspect that the virus was the cause of the problem.'
Type "suspect that" in Google news and you can see umpteen articles on how it is used. Check dictionary.com and you can see how suspect is used in two different cases.

Also, 'suspect' does not mean 'strengthen'. Read the entire sentence to figure out what you have to do.
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This "suspect" concept just blew me off.
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Re: Veritas Prep confusing CR2 -The metropolitan cooking academy [#permalink] New post 28 Oct 2012, 12:05
i confused too with that..

i chose TWO ans in my mind..

if its strenthen..then its E..

If its weaken then A or B..:D :D

finally karisha explain it clrealy..bt yes i didnt c this usage anywhere else !
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Re: Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and [#permalink] New post 19 Feb 2014, 02:38
below is the dictionary meaning of suspect. I still can't understand how come this is a strengthen question? Are there any other pointers through which we can conclude that its a strengthen question??

: regarded or deserving to be regarded with suspicion : suspected <investigates suspect employees>
: doubtful, questionable <whose skills are suspect — Peter Vecsey>

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below is the dictionary meaning of suspect. I still can't understand how come this is a strengthen question? Are there any other pointers through which we can conclude that its a strengthen question??

: regarded or deserving to be regarded with suspicion : suspected <investigates suspect employees>
: doubtful, questionable <whose skills are suspect — Peter Vecsey>


There is a reason we say reading extensively is important but before I come to that, let me give you the various meanings of the word 'suspect' from dictionary.com.

sus·pect [v. suh-spekt; n. suhs-pekt; adj. suhs-pekt, suh-spekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to believe to be guilty, false, counterfeit, undesirable, defective, bad, etc., with little or no proof: to suspect a person of murder.
2.
to doubt or mistrust: I suspect his motives.
3.
to believe to be the case or to be likely or probable; surmise: I suspect his knowledge did not amount to much.
4.
to have some hint or foreknowledge of: I think she suspected the surprise.

The construction "I suspect that ..." implies the meaning number 3. It is very commonly used. I typed 'suspect that' in google news and am giving the first two I found (other that 'The police are searching for the suspect that crashed stolen car...')

"According to the Mail, officials suspect that he abducted the girl to get revenge on his former employers."
"Feds Suspect That Man With Throat Slit And Tongue Missing May Not Have Died Of An Overdose"
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Re: Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and [#permalink] New post 28 Feb 2014, 03:42
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below is the dictionary meaning of suspect. I still can't understand how come this is a strengthen question? Are there any other pointers through which we can conclude that its a strengthen question??

: regarded or deserving to be regarded with suspicion : suspected <investigates suspect employees>
: doubtful, questionable <whose skills are suspect — Peter Vecsey>


There is a reason we say reading extensively is important but before I come to that, let me give you the various meanings of the word 'suspect' from dictionary.com.

sus·pect [v. suh-spekt; n. suhs-pekt; adj. suhs-pekt, suh-spekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to believe to be guilty, false, counterfeit, undesirable, defective, bad, etc., with little or no proof: to suspect a person of murder.
2.
to doubt or mistrust: I suspect his motives.
3.
to believe to be the case or to be likely or probable; surmise: I suspect his knowledge did not amount to much.
4.
to have some hint or foreknowledge of: I think she suspected the surprise.

The construction "I suspect that ..." implies the meaning number 3. It is very commonly used. I typed 'suspect that' in google news and am giving the first two I found (other that 'The police are searching for the suspect that crashed stolen car...')

"According to the Mail, officials suspect that he abducted the girl to get revenge on his former employers."
"Feds Suspect That Man With Throat Slit And Tongue Missing May Not Have Died Of An Overdose"


Hi Mam

Now my question to you is that since suspect could mean both believe as well as doubt so how are we supposed to understand the meaning the suspect implies in a particular question.Ex in this question if we would think suspect==believe then its a strengthener and ans is E else if suspect==weakener answer is A...Please help mam
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i 'suspect' that gmat test will have such an ambiguous questions :)
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below is the dictionary meaning of suspect. I still can't understand how come this is a strengthen question? Are there any other pointers through which we can conclude that its a strengthen question??

: regarded or deserving to be regarded with suspicion : suspected <investigates suspect employees>
: doubtful, questionable <whose skills are suspect — Peter Vecsey>


There is a reason we say reading extensively is important but before I come to that, let me give you the various meanings of the word 'suspect' from dictionary.com.

sus·pect [v. suh-spekt; n. suhs-pekt; adj. suhs-pekt, suh-spekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to believe to be guilty, false, counterfeit, undesirable, defective, bad, etc., with little or no proof: to suspect a person of murder.
2.
to doubt or mistrust: I suspect his motives.
3.
to believe to be the case or to be likely or probable; surmise: I suspect his knowledge did not amount to much.
4.
to have some hint or foreknowledge of: I think she suspected the surprise.

The construction "I suspect that ..." implies the meaning number 3. It is very commonly used. I typed 'suspect that' in google news and am giving the first two I found (other that 'The police are searching for the suspect that crashed stolen car...')

"According to the Mail, officials suspect that he abducted the girl to get revenge on his former employers."
"Feds Suspect That Man With Throat Slit And Tongue Missing May Not Have Died Of An Overdose"


Hi Mam

Now my question to you is that since suspect could mean both believe as well as doubt so how are we supposed to understand the meaning the suspect implies in a particular question.Ex in this question if we would think suspect==believe then its a strengthener and ans is E else if suspect==weakener answer is A...Please help mam


You can figure it out from the construction of the sentence. As I said in my previous post, "I suspect that A will happen." implies "believe to be true".

Whereas a construction such as "suspect his honesty", or "this is a suspect package" implies "believe to be guilty/bad etc".

Many words have multiple meanings but we are able to figure out the one that is applicable in a particular situation from the context. The same is true here. It is important to read extensively to intuitively know these nuances of English language. When I read this question, I did not have even a shred of doubt about what the question is asking. The same will be true for most native speakers and people who like to read.
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i 'suspect' that gmat test will have such an ambiguous questions :)


What you are implying is that you believe that GMAT will have ambiguous questions. You cannot just replace 'doubt' by 'suspect'.
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Re: Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and [#permalink] New post 03 Mar 2014, 11:53
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Found this and many similar problems in veritas prep CAT and have a serious doubt about OA provided.
Would request experts to take a look and suggest explanation:

The metropolitan cooking academy surveyed prospective students and found that students wanted a curriculum that focused on today's healthy dining trends. In order to reverse the trend of declining interest in the school's programs, administrators propose a series of new courses focused on cooking exotic species of fish, alternative grains such as quinoa, and organically produced vegetables.

Which of the following if true,supplies the best reason to suspect that the proposed new course will increase interest in the metropolitan cooking academy?

A) cooking fish, grains, and vegetables relies on same culinary fundamentals as does the preparation of other ingredients.
B) In the food and beverage industry, many employers no longer have time to train apprentices and therefore demand basic culinary skills from their new hires.
C) Local producers in the area near the Metropolitan cooking academy are excellent sources of exotic fish and organic vegetables.
D) Many other cooking schools have found a decline in the level of interest in their program.
E) Many advocates of healthy dining stress the importance of including fish, grains and organically produced vegetables in one's diet.


This is a strengthening question. Don't get tricked by the word "suspect".
Conclusion: Admins think a courses focused on fish, grains, veggies will help to spur an interest in the school's program
Why?: Cos prospective students want to go to school to study a curriculum focused on healthy eating
Thus your job is to show that connect the premises to the conclusion. The author must be assuming that focusing on cooking fish and veggies fulfills what it means when students demand a curriculum base on healthy eating. And since many advocates in E also claim this relationship, E strengthens it!
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