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From a 560 (36Q/31V) to a 480 (25Q/31V). Where's the Xanax? [#permalink] New post 20 Oct 2007, 10:37
Ok folks,

Can anyone provide input? Because I'm all out of answers.

I have no idea what else I can do. My scores are going DOWN. I've exhausted a lot of the resources I have (only things left are the challenges).

Kaplan assessment test (540) Fall 2005
GMAT 560 (36Q/31V) Jan 2006
Took various Kaplan and Princeton exams (580-650) Fall 2006
Manhattan CAT 1 720 (40Q/51V) May 2007
Manhattan CAT 2 580 (40Q/31Q) Aug 2007
GMAT Prep 1 650 (43Q/35V) Oct 2007
GMAT Prep 2 610 (35Q/38V) Oct 2007
GMAT 480 (25Q/31V)

I've used Kaplan, Princeton, completed all the MGMAT quant books and SC. Finished OG11, and OG Quant Book.

I scheduled another test in 6 weeks thinking I would get around 650 this time around and then the challenges would push me over the top to 700, but I got a ridiculous 480. I don't think doing challenges at the point are going to help right? I'm thinking my poor performance has nothing to do with the concepts ??? I have no idea.

This is pretty much my last go of this. If it doesn't happen in December I'm going to have to bow out.
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Re: From a 560 (36Q/31V) to a 480 (25Q/31V). Where's the Xa [#permalink] New post 20 Oct 2007, 11:08
qtip wrote:
Ok folks,

Can anyone provide input? Because I'm all out of answers.

I have no idea what else I can do. My scores are going DOWN. I've exhausted a lot of the resources I have (only things left are the challenges).

Kaplan assessment test (540) Fall 2005
GMAT 560 (36Q/31V) Jan 2006
Took various Kaplan and Princeton exams (580-650) Fall 2006
Manhattan CAT 1 720 (40Q/51V) May 2007
Manhattan CAT 2 580 (40Q/31Q) Aug 2007
GMAT Prep 1 650 (43Q/35V) Oct 2007
GMAT Prep 2 610 (35Q/38V) Oct 2007
GMAT 480 (25Q/31V)

I've used Kaplan, Princeton, completed all the MGMAT quant books and SC. Finished OG11, and OG Quant Book.

I scheduled another test in 6 weeks thinking I would get around 650 this time around and then the challenges would push me over the top to 700, but I got a ridiculous 480. I don't think doing challenges at the point are going to help right? I'm thinking my poor performance has nothing to do with the concepts ??? I have no idea.

This is pretty much my last go of this. If it doesn't happen in December I'm going to have to bow out.


Something went seriously wrong with your math. Were you nervous? Did you guess a lot of questions? Did the time ran out for you? If any of these aren't the factor, I feel that you pretty much just felt into the GMAT traps.

If your problem is those traps, I suggest you go over the MGMAT again and firm up your quant skills. I feel that the OG only exposes you to certain number of problems. I can see someone being able to do all OG problems and still not able to score high in Math. You need to expose yourself to 'different' type of problems. This way, you are not just "know" how to do certain type of problems because of your familiarity with the problems, but you will be able to "apply" the concepts. With your previous quant of 36, I feel that you must know some concepts.

Though I do not agree with practicing verbal problems with any books (I feel that Kapaln SC is just not right, and Barron's just crap), I think Math is a different story. Try to find more unfamiliar/strange Math problems so you can practice "applying the concepts".
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Re: From a 560 (36Q/31V) to a 480 (25Q/31V). Where's the Xa [#permalink] New post 20 Oct 2007, 20:58
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qtip wrote:
Ok folks,

Can anyone provide input? Because I'm all out of answers.

I have no idea what else I can do. My scores are going DOWN. I've exhausted a lot of the resources I have (only things left are the challenges).

Kaplan assessment test (540) Fall 2005
GMAT 560 (36Q/31V) Jan 2006
Took various Kaplan and Princeton exams (580-650) Fall 2006
Manhattan CAT 1 720 (40Q/51V) May 2007
Manhattan CAT 2 580 (40Q/31Q) Aug 2007
GMAT Prep 1 650 (43Q/35V) Oct 2007
GMAT Prep 2 610 (35Q/38V) Oct 2007
GMAT 480 (25Q/31V)

I've used Kaplan, Princeton, completed all the MGMAT quant books and SC. Finished OG11, and OG Quant Book.

I scheduled another test in 6 weeks thinking I would get around 650 this time around and then the challenges would push me over the top to 700, but I got a ridiculous 480. I don't think doing challenges at the point are going to help right? I'm thinking my poor performance has nothing to do with the concepts ??? I have no idea.

This is pretty much my last go of this. If it doesn't happen in December I'm going to have to bow out.


Something went seriously wrong with your math. Were you nervous? Did you guess a lot of questions? Did the time ran out for you? If any of these aren't the factor, I feel that you pretty much just felt into the GMAT traps.

If your problem is those traps, I suggest you go over the MGMAT again and firm up your quant skills. I feel that the OG only exposes you to certain number of problems. I can see someone being able to do all OG problems and still not able to score high in Math. You need to expose yourself to 'different' type of problems. This way, you are not just "know" how to do certain type of problems because of your familiarity with the problems, but you will be able to "apply" the concepts. With your previous quant of 36, I feel that you must know some concepts.

Though I do not agree with practicing verbal problems with any books (I feel that Kapaln SC is just not right, and Barron's just crap), I think Math is a different story. Try to find more unfamiliar/strange Math problems so you can practice "applying the concepts".


I was nervous but nothing that would have affected me like that. In my first GMAT, I had 10 min for the last 10 questions, so I had been working on my timing to ensure I didn't run end up in the same situation. My strategy was to spend 2 minutes on a problem and move on at that point (guessing from whatever choices were still available). In fact on the GMAT PREP CAT 1 I didn't follow this strategy and ended up with a 43Q (ran out of time towards the end). So logically, I figured I would not get wrapped around the axle for a few questions that could bring my score down at the end.

I feel MGMAT has helped A LOT. So much in fact that I can do most of the "Advanced" quant questions from the Kaplan book (before MGMAT I would get about 30% correct). I just don't know what else to do at this point.
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