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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 04 Dec 2010, 20:02
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 04 Dec 2010, 20:05
Along with that, please TAG the source of your question. You wouldn't like it if you did 10 questions here and 5 came up on your GMAT Prep and you got a 750 on it and then went to the actual GMAT and got a 650 because your score was initially inflated.
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 01:01
"To consider" -- "To portray"

hence, option E is correct.

ajit257 wrote:
. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 06:08
i agree with brian . fairly simple explanation. them v/s these clarifies the question.
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 21:02
yes, E should be right one. Them vs these give 3-2 split. And parallelism narrows down to E.
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 21:39
E for me too...
A incorrectly uses "these" when "them" would have been more appropriate..
B is eliminated for two reasons... idiomatic usage of "consider" and usage of "these"...
C,D eliminated for usage of being and unidiomatic usage of "consider"....

Left with E.... uses the correct idiomatic expression "consider X Y"...
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2011, 05:21
At first attempt, I was able to get the answer but with a NOT so systematic approach. I took choices out because of the Idiomatic Expression. But with reading several techniques, the order to attack SC is grammar first, meaning then concision.

So, just focusing on Parallel Errors.

George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature AND TO portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

When we see "AND" or "OR", we try to look for elements in parallel. Focusing on this, we can readily eliminate A,B,C and D.

Then we are left with E...


ajit257 wrote:
. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 18 Apr 2011, 08:46
Simple question Look for an idiom "consider X Y" you will get "E"
ajit257 wrote:
. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !

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George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2011, 03:45
George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2011, 03:57
The answer is E :

1) Expressions such as "to be", "as", "should be" are not required after the verb "Consider", E has the proper idiomatic usage.

2) "to consider" and "to portray" are parallel in E.
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2011, 04:03
The proper Idiom when we use consider is
Consider X Y (Correct)
Consider X to be Y (Incorrect)
Consider X as Y (Incorrect)
Therefore you'll have to pick E
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2011, 00:01
E
Consider should be followed by the object directly
so Consider to be,Consider as are all wrong
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2011, 04:19
Cant use 'these' to stand for nouns. Instead use them: rules out A B
the verb form of portray should be parallel to 'to consider' : to portray: rules out C
D: use of as if they were distorts the meaning of the sentence- as if the author is doubting whether they were

Left with E
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2011, 14:50
Clearly E.....Parallel structure "to consider" and "to portray"
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 19 Oct 2011, 00:43
+ 1 for E, nice explanation fluke.

All the idioms
consider X as Y
Consider x y
consider X to be Y, are correct.
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Re: George Sand [#permalink] New post 29 Oct 2011, 10:38
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George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
1. Parallelism 'to consider...and to portray' 2. Idiom 'Consider to be' is incorrect
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
1. Parallelism 'to consider...and to portray' 2. Idiom 'Consider to be' is incorrect
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them
1. Parallelism 'to consider...and to portray' 2. Idiom 'Consider to be' is incorrect
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
1. Parallelism 'to consider...and to portray' 2. Idiom 'Consider to be' is incorrect
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them
Clear and precise



Ans - 'E'
Timing - 30 Secs :-)

This one seems to be straight from the OG.
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2011, 20:33
daagh wrote:
This is about the idiomatic use of the verb ‘consider’. Consider is a special verb that does not take an accompaniment. The template usage in this case is that you consider x something; expressions such as consider x to be something or consider x as something or consider x should be something are all wrong.

Not only And B but also C and D are all wrong. E is the correct usage


'Consider to be' and 'consider(ed) as' are also acceptable usages. Please go to my link http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/pos ... tml#p60355 for the explanation.
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Re: George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2012, 14:39
I picked E for this question:

A. "To be" is wordy and the use of "these" is incorrect because we are referring to the rural pool. Therefore, the pronoun "them" must be used.

B. The use of "these" is incorrect.

C. "As being" is wordy here and parallelism is broken. "To consider...and portraying." This should be "to consider...and to portray."

D. This answer choice distorts the meaning because you are treating the poor "as if they were legitimate subjects." This essentially states that you don't wholeheartedly believe they are legitimate subjects - this is not the correct meaning.

E. Parallelism is maintained between "to consider...and to portray." Also, this answer choice clearly shows the meaning.
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Re: George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first [#permalink] New post 23 Mar 2012, 10:24
Agree with the explanation. E fits.
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Re: George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first [#permalink] New post 24 Apr 2013, 18:52
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