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George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them
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George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
'consider to be' is unidiomatic. these sounds awkward
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
' consider X should be' is unidiomatic
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them
'consider as' is unidiomatic. 'to consider... and portraying...' is not parallel
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
'consider as' is unidiomatic
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray the
'consider the poor (X) legitimate subjects (Y)' is the correct idiom. furthermore 'George.....was one...to consider....and to portray...' is parallel
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Re: SC OG11 - use of the idiom "consider" [#permalink] New post 25 Nov 2009, 15:59
I'm confused by the use of the pronoun "them" in this example. The OG explanation clearly states that them refers to "the rural poor", which is a collective noun if I'm not mistaken... so can we assume that them sometimes can refer to a singular antecedent?
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George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first [#permalink] New post 21 Oct 2010, 23:16
George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be
legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
with sympathy and respect in her novels.
(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature: portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature an portraying them
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literal; and portray them
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(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them
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Re: parallel 1 [#permalink] New post 21 Oct 2010, 23:29
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this is a question of idiom. consider can not be accompanied by - to be, as, should. - E is the answer
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Re: parallel 1 [#permalink] New post 22 Oct 2010, 05:06
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this is a question of idiom. consider can not be accompanied by - to be, as, should. - E is the answer


can you explain me how the option E is an answer ....
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Re: parallel 1 [#permalink] New post 22 Oct 2010, 05:47
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A. consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects
B. consider the rural poor should be legitimate
C. consider the rural poor as being legitimate
D. consider the rural poor as if they were legitimate subjects
E. consider the rural poor legitimate subjects

It may be seen E is the only one that does not use an accompaniment after - consider the rural poor - This is the law of idiom drawn from ages. We can never question its wisdom.

Another word that does not take an accompaniment is “Comprise
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Re: parallel 1 [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2010, 23:12
(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these (to be is unidiomatic + these should be them)
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature: portray these (should do is unidiomatic + these should be them)
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature an portraying them (as being is unidiomatic + portraying is not parallel with to consider)
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literal; and portray them (as if is unidiomatic + use of semicolon is wrong because a complete sentence should follow a semicolon.)
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them (correct use of consider A B idiom + parallel structure to consider.... and to portray)
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George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2010, 16:25
. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !
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i think i know what the problem is ....but still would like to see more explanations. thanks
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2010, 17:30
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http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/idi ... t2758.html

PS. A is wrong because "these" is not correct.
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2010, 18:12
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This is about the idiomatic use of the verb ‘consider’. Consider is a special verb that does not take an accompaniment. The template usage in this case is that you consider x something; expressions such as consider x to be something or consider x as something or consider x should be something are all wrong.

Not only And B but also C and D are all wrong. E is the correct usage
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2010, 06:46
ajit257 wrote:
. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !


The correct idiom is consider X Y. Only E has the correct idiomatic expression
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2010, 08:09
IMO E

people are referred to as "them" not these...
from the available options with "them" E is the right one..
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2010, 16:15
Hey vaibhavtripathi:

Great explanation! As many have suggested, the idiom is really "I consider X Y" (omitting the "to be"), but very, very few GMAT questions (if any) will focus on an idiom like that. Here, the "these" vs. "them" distinction is more systematic - it's a pronoun error in conjunction with a structural error.

A) "...to consider the poor to be subjects for literature and portray these..." - "these" could refer to "poor" or "subjects" - it's unclear what the pronoun "these" refers to.

B) "...to consider the poor subjects for literature and to portray them..." - here "them" is set up to clearly refer to "the poor" - partially as a more logical personal pronoun ("these" is more of an adjective...these what?) and also because the "and to portray" is perfectly parallel with "to consider" meaning that the object of both verbs is thus parallel ("to consider the poor _______ and to portray THEM (the poor) ______")


While the idiom may be helpful here, you can definitely attack this one systematically by focusing on common decision points, too - the pronoun and the parallel structure!
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2010, 10:54
It is E because the idiom consider should be follwed by XY
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2010, 12:05
consider as, consider to be - are incorrect

should be consider X, therefore E
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2010, 15:18
Look at the parallelism issue first. One of the first writers to consider the rural poor ..... and to portray them with sympathy.

Now looking at the answer choices, we know that A, and B are out of the picture, since you cannot say "these" in this context. And then looking at the idiomatic construction "consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects" - the "to be" part is redundant. It should be "consider the rural poor legitimate subjects" and hence the answer is E.

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. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !
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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2010, 01:58
ajit257 wrote:
. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them


i am confused between A and E. The confusion is ..you consider the rural poor as legitimate or to be legitimate subjects for...
Please could someone throw some light on this ...thanks !


correct idiom is consider xy not consider x to be y
get familiar with idiom

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Re: NEED SOME Help on this SC question [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2010, 07:44
George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A) to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these - these at the end is incorrect. It should be "them" referring to noun. this makes A, B out.
(B) should be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these
(C) as being legitimate subjects for literature and portraying them -"portraying" is not parallel with "to consider" the infinitive.
(D) as if they were legitimate subjects for literature and portray them - "if" makes the sentence conditional, not required.
(E) legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them - here it is, concise and clear; to portray || to considr; them refers to people!

E it is.

Also..in A.."to be" is also similar used not liked by GMAT (similar to being, is also passive)

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