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GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell?

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GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2014, 10:03
Hello everyone!
I just took the GMAT and scored a 670. Do you guys think it is enough for schools such as Columbia and Cornell?
I'm a candidate from Brazil and have a poor GPA of 2.7, which I think is not comparable with american gpa's since almost nobody in my school graduated with gpa's of 3.5 or higher.
Does the ADCOM compares GPA's from different countries?
Work experience:
I have 4 years of work experience, the last 3 of them working for one of the biggest banks in Latin America (Itau).
Currently I'm working on budget forecast and financial analysis, reporting directly to the CFO.
I got promoted 2 times and I'm considered a good potencial for the bank in the future. If I got admited the bank will sponsor my tuition and living costs.
Do you guys think sponsored students have higher chances of getting admited? just wondering...
I'm also a former basketball player in Brazil and currently run half marathons. I speak Portuguese (native), English and Spanish.
I also did volunteer activities, helped people starting their carrier in finance teaching them the basics of finance and so on...
Do I have a chance or I should retake the GMAT?
thanks! :D
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2014, 22:32
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Hi Tiago,

Your GPA most probably will not be 2.7! Use the IGPA services from wes (http://www.wes.org/) to calculate your actual GPA on a 4.0 scale. Many Ad-Coms use wes in their admissions process, so you'll get a good idea of how they will see your undergrad.

Coming to your GMAT, 670 is not a sure shot for Cornell and CBS. It's lesser than their median GMAT scores. If you apply now (R3 and R2) with this score, your chances will be slim. However if you apply for the next year in R1, you'll have much better chances even with the same score.

Since you are stellar in other areas like sports and working in banking, my advice would be to go ahead and apply for R1-2017, you will have better than average chances. You can spend the time bolstering your application with community leadership activities and working towards another promotion in your bank (if that's possible), and working on your story and essays from now itself (giving you a huge head start). But don't fixate on Cornell and CBS.. apply to at least 3 other schools.

That being said, if you are 100% sure that you can improve you GMAT to above 700, you can try again.. but you'll still end up applying for R1-2017... Your call buddy!

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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2014, 07:30
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One misnomer I would say is not explicitly true is that applying R1 is much better than applying in R2: on a percentage basis, the admission rates are the same but the competitiveness of the pool could be different in that R1 has your over-eager applicants who have all their materials together while R2 applicants are a bit less firmed up.

I would suggest you spend time in getting that GMAT score up, even if it means you'll apply in R2.
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2014, 08:48
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While GMAT 670 is on lower side for both school, if I were you, I'd definitely try even with 670 to both school. Since you are Brazilian, I'd consider it as an advantage that will offset GMAT quite a bit. If it doesn't work out, then you can aim for 700 and reapply next year.
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2014, 09:20
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tiagofsa10 wrote:
Hello everyone!
I just took the GMAT and scored a 670. Do you guys think it is enough for schools such as Columbia and Cornell?
I'm a candidate from Brazil and have a poor GPA of 2.7, which I think is not comparable with american gpa's since almost nobody in my school graduated with gpa's of 3.5 or higher.
Does the ADCOM compares GPA's from different countries?
Work experience:
I have 4 years of work experience, the last 3 of them working for one of the biggest banks in Latin America (Itau).
Currently I'm working on budget forecast and financial analysis, reporting directly to the CFO.
I got promoted 2 times and I'm considered a good potencial for the bank in the future. If I got admited the bank will sponsor my tuition and living costs.
Do you guys think sponsored students have higher chances of getting admited? just wondering...
I'm also a former basketball player in Brazil and currently run half marathons. I speak Portuguese (native), English and Spanish.
I also did volunteer activities, helped people starting their carrier in finance teaching them the basics of finance and so on...
Do I have a chance or I should retake the GMAT?
thanks! :D


While 670 is on the low side, it won't be the only reason you get dinged. However, with low GPA, it's insanely difficult to get into a top school - you will need to submit a perfect app and hope that adcom likes something in it.

CBS is notorious for being a GMAT hog, and in the info session, I heard their adcom director saying that you need either a GPA or a GMAT to be higher than our average. Also, with your finance background, you chances diminish significantly because CBS gets lot of apps with finance people with much stronger scores/GPAs.

Cornell, I feel you have a shot!
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2014, 13:02
Its so bad to know CBS adcom won't take my application for serious...
I know my GPS is on the lower side but I think there are differences between the average american GPA and a Brazilian GPA. Thanks for the tip anyway... I think I'll apply for some other schools next season but not Columbia.. =/
Which schools do you guys think my profile will be competitive assuming I won't retake the gmat?
Like I said I got a full sponsorship (for the next season) but I do have to be admited in a top 10 school.
thanks for all replys... :D
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2014, 06:52
Decided to retake the GMAT on the feb 28th and schedule a campus visit next march at Cornell - Johnson to boast my application.
Got in contact with currents students and alumnus...hope it helps :D
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2014, 08:50
tiagofsa10 wrote:
Hello everyone!
I just took the GMAT and scored a 670. Do you guys think it is enough for schools such as Columbia and Cornell?
I'm a candidate from Brazil and have a poor GPA of 2.7, which I think is not comparable with american gpa's since almost nobody in my school graduated with gpa's of 3.5 or higher.
Does the ADCOM compares GPA's from different countries?
Work experience:
I have 4 years of work experience, the last 3 of them working for one of the biggest banks in Latin America (Itau).
Currently I'm working on budget forecast and financial analysis, reporting directly to the CFO.
I got promoted 2 times and I'm considered a good potencial for the bank in the future. If I got admited the bank will sponsor my tuition and living costs.
Do you guys think sponsored students have higher chances of getting admited? just wondering...
I'm also a former basketball player in Brazil and currently run half marathons. I speak Portuguese (native), English and Spanish.
I also did volunteer activities, helped people starting their carrier in finance teaching them the basics of finance and so on...
Do I have a chance or I should retake the GMAT?
thanks! :D


I applied to 6 schools this year (see to the left) with a 2.75 and a 690. I was admitted to Johnson. I think what really worked for me well was I was able to sell my experience and story well during the interview. You seem to have a great background, but less-than-stellar hard numbers. As someone else mentioned earlier, if you apply with your current stats, you'll have to really nail the essays - your story will have to be solid.
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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 27 Jan 2014, 19:58
Hi Tiagofsa,

I work with the Admissions team at the Johnson Graduate School of Management at Cornell University and would encourage you to apply. From your message below, it seems like you have a diverse background and some solid professional experience. I'd be happy to connect with you personally to answer any questions you might have. Looking forward to hearing from you and best wishes on your MBA journey.

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Re: GMAT 670 is enough to apply for Columbia or Cornell? [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2014, 10:55
Hi Tiago,

I was in your exact same shoes last year. I gave it a try and got admitted to Johnson with a 670. Sent me a PM if you want more info.
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