Hi all, my friend just told me about this site and boy did I wish I had this resource before going thru the whole ordeal. Figured I would register and partake in this great community you all have created.

Brief history: I'm still looking at what schools I want to attend, I don't intend on applying for the ultra-elite schools but I would like to apply to NYU and Columbia (as I currently reside in NYC). I majored in BA, concentration in Finance with a history minor at a top 20 BA program, graduating in 2003, UG GPA was average at best (3.1), have been working in a big hedge fund in an operations and risk control role for 2 yrs and 1 yr in a bank in a similar function.

I just took the GMAT yesterday for the first time and scored a 720. My verbal score was a 45, putting me in the 97%. However my math score was a 46 putting me in the 78%. Now I know MBA programs heavily favor Quant scores relative to Verbal. My verbal scores are pretty static, I had taken a Kaplan Prep course and done all the practice CATs - all the verbal scores I got were always in the lower-middle to upper-middle 40 raw score range.

Should I be re-taking the GMAT in hopes of attaining a more balanced score? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers!

the highest Q raw score i ever got was a 48 on my practice CATs...

if only the % was a 80%, not a 78%, I wouldn't even be thinking about this.

GV, thanks for the compliment.

I wanted to point out that Columbia is in fact among the ultra-elites. In fact, given recent admit rates and yields, I argued in a prior post that Columbia is now as difficult to get into as Wharton. Admit rates at Wharton over the last four years have been 13%, 16%, 16% & 21%; yields were 74%, 70%, 68% & 69%. Admit rates at Columbia over the last four have been 11%, 12%, 15%, 15% and yields 72%, 76%, 71% & 76%, besting Wharton in both areas virtually every year. Now, there are probably differences in quality of applications, but suffice to say Columbia is hard to get in to. Columiba is also solidy with the ultra-elites in terms of reputation, job prospects, etc.

NYU, on the other hand, is among the next grouping of schools. Just a personal annecdote, I spoke with an NYU representative at the MBA fair in San Francisco a few days ago. I asked her about the prospects of competing for a job on the west coast and spcifically after graduation from NYU and she kind of got a funny look on her face. NYU clearly has much influence in New York City (which should work fine for you) but for those planning to work elsewhere, it would be advisable to do your research.

Now regarding your scores, I think you are correct that many of the top schools (and especially Columbia and NYU) look closely at the Q portion. That said, your 46/78% is not far off from the mythical 80% mark that many schools prefer. However, because your GPA is towards the bottom end of the 80% range at these schools, and your GMAT is average to slightly above, you probably need to at least consider re-taking. As it stands, unless you can really distinguish yourself elsewhere in your application, you are a long shot at Columbia and probably no better than an average applicant at NYU. 720 is a very good score, but given the quantitative bents of these two schools, I think a few more points could help. If you think you can impove by 30 points overall, then your GMAT could effectively balance out your lower than average GPA.

thanks for the insight pelihu...

i was actually reading more about Columbia and realized that it is indeed somewhat unreachable for me. i'm still looking at other schools though. As for retaking the GMATs, I'll pick up the books again in a month. I was a hermit for the month and a half before the test and I just need to unwind some!

if i can't pick up the math score on a consistent basis, then i guess i'm done...

I'm still relatively new to all the rankings (if you can't tell ). I intend on applying for fall '08 so I do have some time to get my affairs in order before diving in.

I just hear alot of horror stories (ex. my kaplan gmat teacher scored a 730, ivy grad - 3.7 gpa , trader - rejected by all schools (top schools) he app'ed to, he got WL'ed by NYU but then rejected afterwards).

Needless to say I'm freaked out a bit by my chances