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# GMAT Club Tests 3.0 - Brilliant Analytics Edition

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13 Jun 2014, 05:07
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Thank you - we are looking into this. I have had one other user report it (we will review your logs and hopefully eradicate it)

If there is anything else that seems off or odd, please do not hesitate.

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Hi BB
The problems still exists and perhaps has increased.I have my exam in two weeks .Can I expect to give a test without those messages

Furthermore i wanted to ask I am scoring around 35 in the verbal area that is much less compared to my other scores Manhattan and gmat prep .Are these tests(verbal) a little difficult in terms of scoring .I have given three test and made 12 mistakes .I completely understand the scoring is totally based on the difficulty of the questions but i think the verbal score i get is a little harsh

Finally In one of my quant test I had a repeat question .It was a DS question which appeared as the 11 and 14 ques in the test .It not a big problem as it just happened once in the 8 test i have given .Still I justed pointed it out ,in case this info could help you improve your tests

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13 Jun 2014, 20:54
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I attempted my first Quant CAT and I had to end the exam after 3 questions. I see weird symbols in the questions. Screenshot attached. Please resolve this issue.

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13 Jun 2014, 20:57
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Tests and interface are great--this is an invaluable resource. One question--is the Q score supposed to match what the Q score on the actual GMAT or GMATprep software would give? Asking because it seems inflated for me (Q47 and Q45 on last 2) as I scored Q36 on actual GMAT taken less than 1 week ago?

It is possible - we will need another 1-2 weeks to dial in the difficulty.
The challenge we have is that the questions are much harder, so the algorithm is different and has to allow for more questions to be answered wrong. Try to focus on the questions you got wrong and learn from the mistakes. Hopefully the good score will inspire you to work extra hard.

P.S. We have made a scoring algorithm update last weekend and I think another is planned for Monday.

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13 Jun 2014, 21:08
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bb wrote:
Thank you - we are looking into this. I have had one other user report it (we will review your logs and hopefully eradicate it)

If there is anything else that seems off or odd, please do not hesitate.

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Hi BB
The problems still exists and perhaps has increased.I have my exam in two weeks .Can I expect to give a test without those messages

Furthermore i wanted to ask I am scoring around 35 in the verbal area that is much less compared to my other scores Manhattan and gmat prep .Are these tests(verbal) a little difficult in terms of scoring .I have given three test and made 12 mistakes .I completely understand the scoring is totally based on the difficulty of the questions but i think the verbal score i get is a little harsh

Finally In one of my quant test I had a repeat question .It was a DS question which appeared as the 11 and 14 ques in the test .It not a big problem as it just happened once in the 8 test i have given .Still I justed pointed it out ,in case this info could help you improve your tests

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The connectivity issue should be resolved on Mon or Tue. Sorry about that - please take the old tests if this is an on-going challenge. As to the verbal tests, I need to look into the new algorithm. It should not be harsh but we are tweaking things, so maybe some of the bolts got tightened too much..
Thank you for pointing it out! I will look up your session - it is pretty odd to have it.
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16 Jun 2014, 05:16
Hi bb,

The new interface and analysis features are absolutely brilliant! Thanks very much.

I can attest to there being a few gremlins in the scoring algorithm aswell - I took a Q test today and received a score of 60 on 51 even though I got 12 questions incorrect.

However, my question pertains to the difficulty level of the questions itself.
I've taken 2 CATs on platform 3.0 so far:
CAT 1: no of 600 level questions - 21; no of 700 level questions - 15; no of 500 level questions- 1
CAT 2: no of 600 level questions - 13; no of 700 level questions - 24; no of 500 level questions - 0

whereas, a CAT taken on the old platform had the following breakdown: No of 600 level questions: 3; no of 700 level questions: 34.

Basically, I feel the CAT is not throwing enough 700 level questions at me unless the questions have been reclassified as part of the upgrade. I haven't taken any quizzes to exhaust the 700 level pool. What are your thoughts on this?
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Hi bb,

The new interface and analysis features are absolutely brilliant! Thanks very much.

I can attest to there being a few gremlins in the scoring algorithm aswell - I took a Q test today and received a score of 60 on 51 even though I got 12 questions incorrect.

However, my question pertains to the difficulty level of the questions itself.
I've taken 2 CATs on platform 3.0 so far:
CAT 1: no of 600 level questions - 21; no of 700 level questions - 15; no of 500 level questions- 1
CAT 2: no of 600 level questions - 13; no of 700 level questions - 24; no of 500 level questions - 0

whereas, a CAT taken on the old platform had the following breakdown: No of 600 level questions: 3; no of 700 level questions: 34.

Basically, I feel the CAT is not throwing enough 700 level questions at me unless the questions have been reclassified as part of the upgrade. I haven't taken any quizzes to exhaust the 700 level pool. What are your thoughts on this?

Thank you - It depends on your scores
I will review your history and see if anything is off.

On a side note, I am excited to report that we have a new (much much better - fingers crossed) question serving and scoring algorithm in testing right now. I hope we can roll it out over the weekend and ready for Monday. It is supposed to simulate the real GMAT experience, where not all questions are 700-level and you do get super easy questions to throw you off and taunt you... we are getting more evil... it is a good thing, right?
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05 Jul 2014, 01:25
Hi,
I took the verbal & Qunat CAT today but it is not showing the score.
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05 Jul 2014, 01:26
Hi,
I took the verbal & Quant CAT today but it is not showing the score.
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15 Jul 2014, 23:44
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17 Jul 2014, 20:59
just tried a 3.0 quant cat and the difficulty level seems to be better calibrated (i.e. harder ) now versus a couple weeks ago...great job
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18 Jul 2014, 03:36
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Tests and interface are great--this is an invaluable resource. One question--is the Q score supposed to match what the Q score on the actual GMAT or GMATprep software would give? Asking because it seems inflated for me (Q47 and Q45 on last 2) as I scored Q36 on actual GMAT taken less than 1 week ago?

Just try a GMAT PREP test... you will get the answer
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27 Jul 2014, 08:20
Hey BB,

First of all, I must commend you (and the team, if there is one) for making such a snazzy interface with amazing level of analytics & detail that now make the GMAT Club tests more awesome than they already were!

I had tried one of the quant tests today and the following is the break up of the difficulty level that I had got:-
500 - 3
600 - 6
700 - 28

I got 26 correct (500-0, 600-2, 700-9, numbers next to level indicate incorrect answers) and the score I got was 51. Just wanted to check if the scoring algorithm has been calibrated or should one take the scores with a pinch of salt & move on and work on the weaknesses as indicated by the test (you'd do it anyway )

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13 Aug 2014, 19:37
We have had several new updates released to the tests including a few new features and improvements (also killed a few annoying bugs we found). Right now we are working to speed things up and optimize the statistics. Next on our radar are a few suggestions to improve reports and analytics.

I really appreciate all the input and feedback - feel free to post your suggestions here or send them via the PM
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17 Aug 2014, 13:39
Anybody else practicing on the new platform? I have taken 3 of the new tests and I have scored 51 on all of them. Following is the break up in terms of total number of questions from different difficulty levels, & the number of questions I got correct on each of the tests:-

500 600 700
1.) Test 1:- (3,3) (6,4) (28,19) i.e. 26 correct for a score of 51
2.) Test 2:- (4,4) (7,5) (26,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51
3.) Test 3:- (3,3) (6,6) (28,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51

Is it me who has gotten used to the questions or is it that the questions are slightly less trickier than they were in the CATs on the old platform? Having said that, I do feel that the new platform seems a lot closer to the real GMAT with a mix of questions from varying difficulty levels.

Would be great if some of us can post their experiences on the same.
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17 Aug 2014, 16:03
Anybody else practicing on the new platform? I have taken 3 of the new tests and I have scored 51 on all of them. Following is the break up in terms of total number of questions from different difficulty levels, & the number of questions I got correct on each of the tests:-

500 600 700
1.) Test 1:- (3,3) (6,4) (28,19) i.e. 26 correct for a score of 51
2.) Test 2:- (4,4) (7,5) (26,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51
3.) Test 3:- (3,3) (6,6) (28,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51

Is it me who has gotten used to the questions or is it that the questions are slightly less trickier than they were in the CATs on the old platform? Having said that, I do feel that the new platform seems a lot closer to the real GMAT with a mix of questions from varying difficulty levels.

Would be great if some of us can post their experiences on the same.

Thank you for posting this! Anyone who has taken the CAT's and then taken the GMAT, would appreciate your reports and feedback.
I have one data point from one user so far (via PM) who got 49 on the CATs and then 49 on the GMAT. Any others?
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18 Aug 2014, 01:00
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Thank you for posting this! Anyone who has taken the CAT's and then taken the GMAT, would appreciate your reports and feedback.
I have one data point from one user so far (via PM) who got 49 on the CATs and then 49 on the GMAT. Any others?

No problems bb! I'll keep updating it as I try more of the CATs. I'll also post my real GMAT score(after my second retake, due early September) so that we can see how well the scoring algorithm on the new platform mirrors that of the actual GMAT (unless I have a really bad day on Quant in the GMAT )
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Anybody else practicing on the new platform? I have taken 3 of the new tests and I have scored 51 on all of them. Following is the break up in terms of total number of questions from different difficulty levels, & the number of questions I got correct on each of the tests:-

500 600 700
1.) Test 1:- (3,3) (6,4) (28,19) i.e. 26 correct for a score of 51
2.) Test 2:- (4,4) (7,5) (26,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51
3.) Test 3:- (3,3) (6,6) (28,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51

Is it me who has gotten used to the questions or is it that the questions are slightly less trickier than they were in the CATs on the old platform? Having said that, I do feel that the new platform seems a lot closer to the real GMAT with a mix of questions from varying difficulty levels.

Would be great if some of us can post their experiences on the same.

By the way, here is analysis of GMAT Prep scoring: gmat-prep-software-analysis-and-what-if-scenarios-146146.html
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19 Sep 2014, 10:27
Hello BB,

Thanks for he brilliant update. I purchased the gmat club tests via egmat,

I took two tests and scored V 35 and V 48 .(Between 10 days)
I'm working on the weakness but still do you think the scores are correct?Or I should just use them to gauge my weakness and improve them?
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19 Sep 2014, 10:45
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Hello BB,

Thanks for he brilliant update. I purchased the gmat club tests via egmat,

I took two tests and scored V 35 and V 48 .(Between 10 days)
I'm working on the weakness but still do you think the scores are correct?Or I should just use them to gauge my weakness and improve them?

A few things:
1. These are Q35 and Q48
2. On the Q35, you left 3 questions unanswered and there is a penalty for that.
3. We have also recalculated percentiles and performance based on the past 3 months and that has shifted the scores a bit. We have also changed some of the variables to make it more in-tune with the latest round of real GMAT results we have received. With that, your first test (if recalculated, would have been Q45-Q48, had you not left the 3 last questions unanswered).

Hope this helps.
FYI. The beta tests are still beta and we are tweaking them to make them perfect and the scoring is still adjusted. The original CAT tests have a very robust scoring, on the other hand. You are welcome to take them or ping me for any previous session result recalculation.
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21 Sep 2014, 04:34
Thanks BB.

That explains my weird jump.I will anyways attempt more tests and get to know the actual level.
The statistics are mindblowing !. Gives indepth information at a question level!

Also, if you can shed some light on how the difficulty levels are assigned to each question, it will be great.

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