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GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 06 Jun 2009, 23:23
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If an x meter long rope can enclose (or cover) a maximum area of 50 square meters, what is the approximate length of the rope?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 10
D. 20
E. 25
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 10 Jun 2009, 20:10
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From a given length, x meter, of a rope, a circle or a triangle or a quadrilateral or any other regular or irregular shapes can be made but the maximum area is covered by a circle. So this area must be of a circle. Then, the length of a rope in a circle is its circumference.
A = 50
\pi r^2 = 50
r \approx 4
Length = 2 \pi r = 2 x 3.14 x 4 = 25
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2009, 11:22
A square could be larger?

x^2 = 50

x = (5)*\sqrt{2}

Perimeter = (20)*\sqrt{2} = (20)*(1.4) \approx 28
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 28 Jul 2009, 17:08
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A square could be larger?

x^2 = 50

x = (5)*\sqrt{2}

Perimeter = (20)*\sqrt{2} = (20)*(1.4) \approx 28



Well,
If you are considering ‘x’ to be the length of the rope, then area of square formed with this has to be A = (x/4)2 = x2/16 = 50. This implies x has to be 20Ѵ2 = 34.64 m
This clearly shows we need longer ropes to cover the same area in form of square than circle.

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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2009, 22:20
charimaalu wrote:
benpack03 wrote:
A square could be larger?

x^2 = 50

x = (5)*\sqrt{2}

Perimeter = (20)*\sqrt{2} = (20)*(1.4) \approx 28



Well,
If you are considering ‘x’ to be the length of the rope, then area of square formed with this has to be A = (x/4)2 = x2/16 = 50. This implies x has to be 20Ѵ2 = 34.64 m
This clearly shows we need longer ropes to cover the same area in form of square than circle.

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Exactly.

Circle:- If 25 meter of rope can cover a circle with an area of 50 sq meter, then 28 meter of rope can cover a circle with an area of >50 sq. meter.

Square:- If 28 meter of rope can cover a square with an area of 50 sq meter, then 25 meter of rope can cover a square with an area of <50 sq. meter.

Therefore, Circle is correct.
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 12 Aug 2009, 20:45
This is tricky !
Circle is correct? based on the question stem, how to justify that circle is correct and square is incorrect?
The question is not asking for a square or a circle or any other shapes. Instead, it asks for an approximate length of rope that cover a shape of 50m2.
Considering a rectangle of 25x2. area = 50m2, I will need a rope of at least 54m to cover it.

so now, we have 25,28 and 54.. what would be the approximate length of rope?
the maximum value in the answer choice is only 25. In this case, will I have to answer 25m just because there are no other possibilities?


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charimaalu wrote:
benpack03 wrote:
A square could be larger?

x^2 = 50

x = (5)*\sqrt{2}

Perimeter = (20)*\sqrt{2} = (20)*(1.4) \approx 28



Well,
If you are considering ‘x’ to be the length of the rope, then area of square formed with this has to be A = (x/4)2 = x2/16 = 50. This implies x has to be 20Ѵ2 = 34.64 m
This clearly shows we need longer ropes to cover the same area in form of square than circle.

Harry


Exactly.

Circle:- If 25 meter of rope can cover a circle with an area of 50 sq meter, then 28 meter of rope can cover a circle with an area of >50 sq. meter.

Square:- If 28 meter of rope can cover a square with an area of 50 sq meter, then 25 meter of rope can cover a square with an area of <50 sq. meter.

Therefore, Circle is correct.
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 13 Aug 2009, 09:17
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This is tricky !
Circle is correct? based on the question stem, how to justify that circle is correct and square is incorrect?
The question is not asking for a square or a circle or any other shapes. Instead, it asks for an approximate length of rope that cover a shape of 50m2.
Considering a rectangle of 25x2. area = 50m2, I will need a rope of at least 54m to cover it.

so now, we have 25,28 and 54.. what would be the approximate length of rope?
the maximum value in the answer choice is only 25. In this case, will I have to answer 25m just because there are no other possibilities?


Re-read the question:- It says "a maximum of".

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If a shape made from an x meter rope can cover a maximum of 50 square meters, what is the approximate length of the rope?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 10
D. 20
E. 25

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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2009, 19:41
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Great question! I would like to make a small suggestion however... it seems like it may make more sense to change "cover" to "enclose"... to cover seems to imply a very different sort of condition (for instance, consider a question that asks someone to calculate how much material is required to create a pool cover or something like that... we would be talking about square footage or square meters rather than linear feet or meters). I think this change would add some clarity to the question :wink:
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2009, 20:12
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Agreed. When I read "cover" I was first just thinking about the actual surface area of the ground covered by the rope itself, not the amount of spaced enclosed by the shape made with the rope.

I might be in the minority, however...
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2009, 10:30
Architect wrote:
Great question! I would like to make a small suggestion however... it seems like it may make more sense to change "cover" to "enclose"... to cover seems to imply a very different sort of condition (for instance, consider a question that asks someone to calculate how much material is required to create a pool cover or something like that... we would be talking about square footage or square meters rather than linear feet or meters). I think this change would add some clarity to the question :wink:



I agree ... I couldn't understand what the question was asking ... "Enclose" would help ... but its a good question - hadn't thought of it before ... atleast I now know that a circle encloses the maximum area for given length of rope. :)
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 12 Oct 2009, 15:29
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Official Answer: E

From a given length, x meter, of a rope, a circle or a triangle or a quadrilateral or any other regular or irregular shapes can be made but the maximum area is covered by a circle. So this area must be of a circle. Then, the length of a rope in a circle is its circumference.
A = 50
\pi r^2 = 50
r \approx 4
Length = 2 \pi r = 2 x 3.14 x 4 = 25


is this the modified question and explanation :?:
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 19 Oct 2009, 21:57
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i think ques would have been more clear if written as " what is the minimum length of rope reqd to cover/enclose an area of 50 sqm? "


I see your point here but the question stem has said that " a MAXIMUM area of 50 square meters". Any length of more than 25 could cover / enclsoe an area of more than 50 sqrm with the shape of a circle, so it will deviate from the condition given by the question. I don't think it is necessary to specify "minimun" here.
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 19 Oct 2009, 22:43
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If an x meter long rope can enclose (or cover) a maximum area of 50 square meters, what is the approximate length of the rope?

A. 4
B. 7
C. 10
D. 20
E. 25

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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 20 Oct 2009, 14:24
OK. I've updated the question in the PDF, the online version and in the first post of this thread. Thank you guys!
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 22 May 2010, 08:39
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Official Answer: E

From a given length, x meter, of a rope, a circle or a triangle or a quadrilateral or any other regular or irregular shapes can be made but the maximum area is covered by a circle. So this area must be of a circle. Then, the length of a rope in a circle is its circumference.
A = 50
\pi r^2 = 50
r \approx 4
Length = 2 \pi r = 2 x 3.14 x 4 = 25


Tiger, what is about the minimum area covered of a given length?
I supposed it to be a triangle, and then with the increasing of the number of angles, the covered area is increasing.
What do you think about it?

my 2 cents. it is tough question unless you know than for a ginven length of rope the maximum covered area is a circle, otherwise it would not be of 750 level.
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 27 Sep 2010, 19:07
I don't understand this question one bit. The wording is incredibly unclear, and I really didn't know what I was being asked for. Even after reading the explanations here, I still don't understand what the question is asking.

First I thought that the rope was literally covering up (filling in a square, for example) an area of 50 square meters. But that doesn't make sense, because you would need the thickness of the rope to figure out how long it is.

So then I thought that the rope was enclosing an area - or basically, acting as a perimeter. So we need some kind of shape where the area is 50 square meters, and we need to figure out the perimeter. So I made a rectangle with a length of 10 and a width of 5. The area is 50, and the perimeter is 10 + 10 + 5 + 5 = 30. But 30 isn't an answer. Then I said, well you could make this rectangle with any size sides - what about a length of 50 and a width of 1? Then we'd need a rope of length 50 + 50 + 1 + 1 = 102.

What is this question asking?
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 04 Dec 2010, 11:06
I believe "cover" is confusing. It would be better to just leave "enclose". Nice question thank you!
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2011, 06:15
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GMAT TIGER wrote:
Explanation
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Official Answer: E

From a given length, x meter, of a rope, a circle or a triangle or a quadrilateral or any other regular or irregular shapes can be made but the maximum area is covered by a circle. So this area must be of a circle. Then, the length of a rope in a circle is its circumference.
A = 50
\pi r^2 = 50
r \approx 4
Length = 2 \pi r = 2 x 3.14 x 4 = 25


Tiger, what is about the minimum area covered of a given length?
I supposed it to be a triangle, and then with the increasing of the number of angles, the covered area is increasing.
What do you think about it?

my 2 cents. it is tough question unless you know than for a ginven length of rope the maximum covered area is a circle, otherwise it would not be of 750 level.


Yes, this question is a bit different.
But, think in another way. For an area to be a maximum when the perimeter is same, it cannot be a polygon because the edges reduce the area.
Now other than polygon - if all the points on the edge are at equal distance from the center, it will be symmetrical --> This is a circle.
So comes down to circle (Note - Not any irregular because again the symmetry is violated)

Step 1 - Now I know it is a circle
Step 2 -
(Pi)(r^2) = 50 ==> r = \sqrt{50/pi}
2(pi)r = ?
2(pi)r
= 2(pi)\sqrt{50/pi}
= 2\sqrt{50*pi}
= 2*5*\sqrt{44/7}
= 10*\sqrt{6}

This is greater than 10*\sqrt{4} or 20
So E

This was my thought process.

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lol, spending more time trying to interpret the English over the math is not helpful. I think its obvious the wording is just misleading; although the concept is clear. So rather than criticize, I think its important to ask what exactly the question is trying to test? And then re-word around that aim, without spelling it out.

the word "enclose" can be interpreted as meaning to surround, and the word "cover" means something totally different (as if laying a sheet over something to cover it)... "cover" should not be in there.

For a rope to "enclose" a 'maximum' area of 50 square metres, the question itself is telling us that this rope can "enclose", for example, a rectangular garden that is 50m x 1m, in which case the rope must be 102m long.. obviously this changes per each dimension of the object that might be visualized (square, triangle, rectangle, circle, etc.), but the question doesn't clarify this to the reader in terms of what's being asked. This is where the word "maximum" might be misleading and perhaps overlooked.

- clearly a 102-m rope is the minimum length of rope required to enclose a 50m x 1m garden, but if this same length of rope is used to cover a circular garden, it can cover much more than 50 square meters; which goes against the restriction of "maximum area of 50 square meters"

- It's clear that the concept being tested is the ability to identify that a circle is the optimal shape for area maximization.

thus, I would suggest that the question be re-worded to ask:

Which of the following is the approximate minimum length of rope required to enclose an area of 50 square meters.

this would better direct the reader into understanding that the question is looking for you to determine the smallest length of rope to achieve an area of 50 square meters... Those who don't think beyond a square box, will come up with the wrong length, and those who realise that a "50 square meter" area can come in many shapes will realise that a circular enclosure requires the least length of rope.
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Re: GMAT Diagnostic Test Question 36 [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2012, 12:52
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lol, spending more time trying to interpret the English over the math is not helpful. I think its obvious the wording is just misleading; although the concept is clear. So rather than criticize, I think its important to ask what exactly the question is trying to test? And then re-word around that aim, without spelling it out.

the word "enclose" can be interpreted as meaning to surround, and the word "cover" means something totally different (as if laying a sheet over something to cover it)... "cover" should not be in there.

For a rope to "enclose" a 'maximum' area of 50 square metres, the question itself is telling us that this rope can "enclose", for example, a rectangular garden that is 50m x 1m, in which case the rope must be 102m long.. obviously this changes per each dimension of the object that might be visualized (square, triangle, rectangle, circle, etc.), but the question doesn't clarify this to the reader in terms of what's being asked. This is where the word "maximum" might be misleading and perhaps overlooked.

- clearly a 102-m rope is the minimum length of rope required to enclose a 50m x 1m garden, but if this same length of rope is used to cover a circular garden, it can cover much more than 50 square meters; which goes against the restriction of "maximum area of 50 square meters"

- It's clear that the concept being tested is the ability to identify that a circle is the optimal shape for area maximization.

thus, I would suggest that the question be re-worded to ask:

Which of the following is the approximate minimum length of rope required to enclose an area of 50 square meters.

this would better direct the reader into understanding that the question is looking for you to determine the smallest length of rope to achieve an area of 50 square meters... Those who don't think beyond a square box, will come up with the wrong length, and those who realise that a "50 square meter" area can come in many shapes will realise that a circular enclosure requires the least length of rope.



I agree completely with this analysis. The question would still be testing the same concept but without the unnecessary confusion. Cheers essarr's, +1
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