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GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2010, 18:46
To anyone willing to read this post...it is much appreciated!

A little background:
The past 4 months of studying has all been done using the MGMAT curriculum. I finished taking the full classes back in June and took around 2 months to work on odds and ends as well as to take 1 CAT test per week up until the date of my test. The last 2 weeks were done with AWA essays.

My scores varied
7/5 CAT I - 480 (28Q, 29V)
7/31 CAT II - 640 (44Q, 33V - I think I guessed well)
8/7 CAT III - 590 (42Q, 31V)
8/13 CAT IV - 490 (30Q, 28V - I might have had a little to much fun the night before)
8/20 CAT V - Did not take timed
8/27 CAT VI - 580 (42Q, 31V)

8/30 Official GMAT - 590 (42Q, 30V) - I am not suprised by this score considering the previous CAT that I took. I had the same feeling during this test as the 8/27 test. No test taking anxieties or anything like that either.

I realize that verbal is an issue and I am not to fond of my timing on Math. I can still get caught up in being on a problem for longer than I should be. Anyway, the real reason I am writing this is that I simply dot not know how to handle my study strategy going forward. I am looking for a very optimistic 700 score (or somewhere in the vicinity). I work 10 - 11 hour days and try to complete 1 - 2 hours /night with the majority of studying on the weekends 4 - 6 hours a day.

My real focus the last month was on these tests as well as reviewing my weak areas which in Quant are WT and Geometry. Verbal - SC I thought was strong, CR/RC are both very weak ( I read avidly during the day newspapers online articles) now I think I am weak in all areas. I cannot lie, my weekday focus has not been spent heavily in Verbal, if at all. This is obviously the reason for the lack of increase in my score. I am not demoralized but I need a refocusing/suggestions on how I should PROPERLY attempt fixing verbal (improving math would be good too! ha)

Do I need anymore resources? I have seen the GMATClub tests. How should these be utilized so I can improve besides just taking/reviewing them...If I set a goal of retaking this test on 10/4 would it be realistic, with my work schedule, to accomplish a 100 pt increase? If I push the test forward another month and miss the 11/15 B school deadline of Round 1 will applying Round 2 with hopefully a 700 score be detrimental?

If these thoughts are not organized, please forgive me, I am just a little all over the place with what to do next.

Thank You for any help offered


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10/16: GMAT Prep II : 540 (35Q, 29V) - Very Frustrating. Good news was that I got 1 out of 17 wrong of SC on Verbal but totally blew one of the RC's. Im sure this imbalance through off my score this way. As for math, maybe the testing pressure is effecting me?

10/23/10 Official GMAT II - 580 (39Q,31V) - Ok so now I am bugging out. I spent the last month working hard, only to go down 10 points. I cant break this barrier for some reason. For the last month I really hammered down Sentence Correction and tried using DIAGRAMMING for my CR. I suppose I neglected RC and Quant a little bit in the process. I am extremely frustrated now. I just booked one more test for Middle Decembet which gives me 2 months to get this score up 100 points.

I am clearly hitting a wall. What to do!?

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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2010, 19:49
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So, it looks like your practice test scores are very much aligned with your final gmat result.

I guess the question for you is, what GMAT score do you need and what score are you wiling to work for? Your verbal score looks low - are you a non-native speaker? Which do you prefer more, verbal or quant?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2010, 19:57
My target school GMAT score average is a 700/710 i believe. I need a 690/700 and yes I am very much willing to work for this. I want to do this the RIGHT way and not spend time doing things that I think are helping but ultimately are not. . Seems I would need to shake up my study strategy somehow.

As mentioned, the past month has been strictly taking tests and reviewing. I usually write down on paper all the questions I get wrong or made a careless misstake with. I have booklets of these notes per test.

I am a native speaker. Born and bred. I suppose I prefer verbal. What score increase would I benefit the most from? The only issue with quant is that I do not feel very fluent with it if that makes sense. I still get shaken up with topics that I should know

Yes it is good that my practice scores have been accurate, I can rely on them much more...
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2010, 09:55
you in the same boat I am buddy. Finished the MGMAT series, my scores are around yours as well with a few outliers but stuck right below the 600 mark but my goal is 610+

the suggested me to go back to the fundamentals of mathematics, Kaplan's book, I think it's the premier, does a great job in it's refresher section on covering those little fundamentals.
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 18:33
you need verbal overhaul and decent quant practice. it seems with your deadline you have 2 months left. do you have trouble understanding topics? are you using error logs?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2010, 22:32
I suggest you take a look at the Powerscore Sentence Correction and Critical Reasoning guides. Furthermore, you may want to take a look at the Kaplan verbal book. I also don't believe MGMAT quant is a good indicator of the real GMAT quant.

And before your exam, did you take the two GMATPrep tests?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2010, 23:23
[quote="Byau"]I suggest you take a look at the Powerscore Sentence Correction and Critical Reasoning guides.

I agree with this it helped me boost my verbal score from 25s to 35s without much practice..jus after using it..once if i am done with all pratice questions guess i ll hit the 40s....
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2010, 17:43
Late reply..I forgot my username and pw ha

Yes an overhaul for sure is what I would like. I have read that having MGMAT CR and SC would only make the Powerscore Books redundant. I suppose it is worth a shot though.

I have saved the 2 GMAT Practice Test and will be taking them in the next few weeks. I do not have a far spread from what MGMAT has assessed me at for Quant so I do not see that as the huge issue. I just need to figure out how to better "LEARN" the questions and know what I am being tested on I suppose?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2010, 21:28
I'd suggest that you get Powerscore CR and MGMAT SC.
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2010, 08:58
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I'd suggest that you get Powerscore CR and MGMAT SC.

Use these, then use OG. Make sure to read all explanations to fully understand the concepts.
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and error logs are important too. you need to understand the concepts with those books
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2010, 09:51
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To achieve 700, you need a total of 14 points of raw score. (see my xls table of raw to gmat score conversion).
Lets do the simple math here. You score now is Q42 V30.
Think how much could you get out of Q and V? You can't solely concentrate on math cause 42+14=56 is not real raw score on the GMAT. But, hypothetically you may achieve a raw score of 44 in verbal.
Well you need a combined improvement of Q and V, with an incline to verbal.

As to Gmatclub tests no doubts this is best resource ever! After doing 10 Q tests I was feeling like I am "flying" (most of problems seemed easy for me) when I did Gmatprep-1, my score was 48.
My advice is to note every single question you got wrong and right, which you do not understand. Learn them than return after 10 test and take the test again. It will help.
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2010, 15:52
Thanks Pkit that is very helpful indeed.

As far as the GMATclub tests are concerned, what is the best way to incorporate them into my study plan. Should I just jump in and do them or is there another more beneficial strategy?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2010, 16:10
I am pretty much in the same situation: overall 600 Q44 V29... but i am not a native.I will like to know which schools i should aim at?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2010, 20:46
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Thanks Pkit that is very helpful indeed.

As far as the GMATclub tests are concerned, what is the best way to incorporate them into my study plan. Should I just jump in and do them or is there another more beneficial strategy?


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First, do diagnostic test, find your weakneses and learn concepts for weak areas. Redo the diagnostic test.
Than everyday take one test at the morning + and review all questions of that test (correct and wrong) at the evening. +
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 17:42
And what would you say to someone that works from 8am to 7pm in the sense that it would be difficult to work those gmatclub problems morning and night?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 20:43
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And what would you say to someone that works from 8am to 7pm in the sense that it would be difficult to work those gmatclub problems morning and night?


:lol: Most people work even more and after work they do 2-3 hours of extensive preparation.


One of my friends was waking up at 4 am and studied CFA during 3 hours. He maintained the same schedule for 5 months.
He is CFA certified now and he passed all levels in just 3 years.
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2010, 15:25
I have been busting my butt for the past month. See updated first post. I cant tell you how frustrating and demoralizing this is. . . I have been scoring at this level over the past month. Have I just hit my capacity?
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Re: GMAT I - 590 (42Q, 30V) - Where do I go from here? [#permalink] New post 23 Oct 2010, 15:55
jscott319 wrote:
To anyone willing to read this post...it is much appreciated!

A little background:
The past 4 months of studying has all been done using the MGMAT curriculum. I finished taking the full classes back in June and took around 2 months to work on odds and ends as well as to take 1 CAT test per week up until the date of my test. The last 2 weeks were done with AWA essays.

My scores varied
7/5 CAT I - 480 (28Q, 29V)
7/31 CAT II - 640 (44Q, 33V - I think I guessed well)
8/7 CAT III - 590 (42Q, 31V)
8/13 CAT IV - 490 (30Q, 28V - I might have had a little to much fun the night before)
8/20 CAT V - Did not take timed
8/27 CAT VI - 580 (42Q, 31V)

8/30 Official GMAT - 590 (42Q, 30V) - I am not suprised by this score considering the previous CAT that I took. I had the same feeling during this test as the 8/27 test. No test taking anxieties or anything like that either.

I realize that verbal is an issue and I am not to fond of my timing on Math. I can still get caught up in being on a problem for longer than I should be. Anyway, the real reason I am writing this is that I simply dot not know how to handle my study strategy going forward. I am looking for a very optimistic 700 score (or somewhere in the vicinity). I work 10 - 11 hour days and try to complete 1 - 2 hours /night with the majority of studying on the weekends 4 - 6 hours a day.

My real focus the last month was on these tests as well as reviewing my weak areas which in Quant are WT and Geometry. Verbal - SC I thought was strong, CR/RC are both very weak ( I read avidly during the day newspapers online articles) now I think I am weak in all areas. I cannot lie, my weekday focus has not been spent heavily in Verbal, if at all. This is obviously the reason for the lack of increase in my score. I am not demoralized but I need a refocusing/suggestions on how I should PROPERLY attempt fixing verbal (improving math would be good too! ha)

Do I need anymore resources? I have seen the GMATClub tests. How should these be utilized so I can improve besides just taking/reviewing them...If I set a goal of retaking this test on 10/4 would it be realistic, with my work schedule, to accomplish a 100 pt increase? If I push the test forward another month and miss the 11/15 B school deadline of Round 1 will applying Round 2 with hopefully a 700 score be detrimental?

If these thoughts are not organized, please forgive me, I am just a little all over the place with what to do next.

Thank You for any help offered


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10/16: GMAT Prep II : 540 (35Q, 29V) - Very Frustrating. Good news was that I got 1 out of 17 wrong of SC on Verbal but totally blew one of the RC's. Im sure this imbalance through off my score this way. As for math, maybe the testing pressure is effecting me?

GMAT Club Tests: I dont feel my skills are up to par with these. Should I just jump into it?

10/23/10 Official GMAT II - 580 (39Q,31V) - Ok so now I am bugging out. I spent the last month working hard, only to go down 10 points. I cant break this barrier for some reason. For the last month I really hammered down Sentence Correction and tried using DIAGRAMMING for my CR. I suppose I neglected RC and Quant a little bit in the process. I am extremely frustrated now. I just booked one more test for Middle Decembet which gives me 2 months to get this score up 100 points.

I am clearly hitting a wall. What to do!?
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