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05 Feb 2012, 15:52
Dear all,

I have been thinking about posting here for a few days and finally decided to reach out. I am performing miserably in quant section of the exam. This is quite unusual because I have always been pretty good at Quant (IB 7, SAT 700+ in quant, and even A+'s in college calculus classes). I prepared for Quant using Kaplan workbook + Premier and averaged 75-90%. So I was feeling quite confident until I took a CAT by Manhattan this morning and scored less than 40%. I am devastated by my quant performance.

I am not sure whats going wrong. Is there a book (other than Kaplan, 2nd Ed Quant, and 12th OG) that I should consider purchasing to cover more GMAT topics? Kaplan was very helpful but the questions I saw in this morning's CAT were not covered in Kaplan... I will start with 2nd Edition and OG this week and finish them by 25th Feb.

DS is more challenging for me and I don't seem to be improving much. I can really use some advice especially if you were once in my situation and improved considerably.

Thanks

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Dear all,

I have been thinking about posting here for a few days and finally decided to reach out. I am performing miserably in quant section of the exam. This is quite unusual because I have always been pretty good at Quant (IB 7, SAT 700+ in quant, and even A+'s in college calculus classes). I prepared for Quant using Kaplan workbook + Premier and averaged 75-90%. So I was feeling quite confident until I took a CAT by Manhattan this morning and scored less than 40%. I am devastated with my quant performance.

I am not sure whats going wrong. Is there a book (other than Kaplan, 2nd Ed Quant, and 12th OG) that I should consider purchasing to cover more GMAT topics? Kaplan was very helpful but the questions I saw in this morning's CAT were not covered in Kaplan... I will start with 2nd Edition and OG this week and finish them by 25th Feb.

DS is more challenging for me and I don't seem to be improving much. I can really use some advice especially if you were once in my situation and improved considerably.

Thanks

If your basics of Quant are in place, there is no reason to fret. If you averaged 75-90% in your workbooks, there is no reason to believe that they are not.

Is this the first online test you have taken? If yes, there can be many factors at play here which could have brought your score down. First of all, taking a test on the comp is very different from taking the paper test. You will get used to it after a few more tests.
Take any two test prep companies - they will have very different styles of question writing. Some people are thrown off by that. The solution is to simply try tests from various different providers. You will learn to focus on the important points and ignore the frill.
Are you used to solving questions under time pressure? If not, that is another factor that could have drowned you. Not because you don't get enough time, but only because you don't know how to manage your available time well and because the ticking clock stresses people. Again, you will get used to it after a few more CATs.

Every question you see in GMAT will be different. You would not have seen it before. But mind you, they will be questioning you on the exact same concept that you yourself would have used at least 10 times in 10 different questions. Just the application will be different. Remember this and it will give you a lot of confidence. Say, if you see a circle, chances are you need to use 2*pi*r or pi*r^2. Don't focus on 'these questions were not covered by Kaplan' because they never will be. Focus on whether the concepts were covered. If they were, then you just need to practice more.

DS is harder than PS for most people. That is the reason we, at Veritas, have a book dedicated to DS strategies and questions. The drills in the book help you develop the step-by-step approach you will use so that you don't waste time making your way through the ton of data.
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06 Feb 2012, 04:15
I am just like you really well in all the math Quant courses in high school and university. Also won awards in elementary. I majored in Finance from one of the top university in Canada so basic stats and math are easy. My problem with my GMAT books are that the question are ridiculously easy especially after you have read through the chapter and do the question immediately afterwards. All the question in the books are base on concept from within the book, so you wouldn't truly see anything that's outside the scope of the book (question structure and type wise). My suggest is to go through the forums. You see a lot of weirdly worded questions. Practice on these now, so you won't freak out about seeing oddly structure question on exams. I think as a fresh grad we're not use to seeing question that we have never experience with, especially if you were an A student. In university you know most of these question and most variation is easily solvable, but on GMAT there are question that you have never ever seen. Therefore when you prep with some of these study guides, but see questions you don't understand on other exams you start to freak out. That's why for me doing question on this forum was the best prep for my quant. I started out not know how to do 80% of the questions, now I can do most of it, although some questions take me 10 to 20 mins to visualize. Also I think you should by official gmat study guide cause they have 200ish question with varying difficulty. No offense my manhattan and baron were both pretty useless after the first reading. Too much useless explanation and not enough on the hard stuff.
I think I got 700 for GMATPREP 1. 50 for quant. 33 for verbal... Since I got 14 wrong and twelve out of 14 were grammar questions. ;( . GRAMMAR WHY YOU NO EASY!!!!
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06 Feb 2012, 05:37
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I am just like you really well in all the math Quant courses in high school and university. Also won awards in elementary. I majored in Finance from one of the top university in Canada so basic stats and math are easy. My problem with my GMAT books are that the question are ridiculously easy especially after you have read through the chapter and do the question immediately afterwards. All the question in the books are base on concept from within the book, so you wouldn't truly see anything that's outside the scope of the book (question structure and type wise). My suggest is to go through the forums. You see a lot of weirdly worded questions. Practice on these now, so you won't freak out about seeing oddly structure question on exams. I think as a fresh grad we're not use to seeing question that we have never experience with, especially if you were an A student. In university you know most of these question and most variation is easily solvable, but on GMAT there are question that you have never ever seen. Therefore when you prep with some of these study guides, but see questions you don't understand on other exams you start to freak out. That's why for me doing question on this forum was the best prep for my quant. I started out not know how to do 80% of the questions, now I can do most of it, although some questions take me 10 to 20 mins to visualize. Also I think you should by official gmat study guide cause they have 200ish question with varying difficulty. No offense my manhattan and baron were both pretty useless after the first reading. Too much useless explanation and not enough on the hard stuff.
I think I got 700 for GMATPREP 1. 50 for quant. 33 for verbal... Since I got 14 wrong and twelve out of 14 were grammar questions. ;( . GRAMMAR WHY YOU NO EASY!!!!

Thanks a lot for that. For Verbal I highly recommend Sentence Correction by Manhattan GMAT. I improved from 60 to 80-90% in less than two weeks. Its a really good book and you will be surprised how much it will help you even when you write personal messages etc.

How long did it take you to get a hang of DS questions? I am starting 2nd Edition quant today and will continue looking at GMAT club questions as well. If there is any specific question set that helped you, please can you post the link here?

Thank you for your help.
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06 Feb 2012, 07:06
I think for DS MGMAT has superior strategies... and they work for me. I think at this point I like DS more than PS... never thought I would say that!

The Kaplan book helped me go from 530-600 or in Quant from 31-41 in a month... I honestly believe that the max potential of that book is 650...

I would recommend doing a GMATprep CAT to get the most accurate score. It is the only exam out there that is from the GMAT makers.

For the MGMAT CAT... did you look at their assessment reports? What is your weak area? For most "math classicists" the main issue of beating the GMAT is to step away from the proper way to do a problem and think more simplistically. I have gone through 3 out of the 5 Manhattan books in addition to the Kaplan Premier and the content of the two books is the same. What makes Manhattan superior is that they go through more details which Kaplan assumes you already know. I would say see where you went wrong and get those guides from Manhattan. You can also take a look at the GMAT math book and try that... It is next on my list.
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