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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2011, 18:02
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I am curious what you guys end up picking - please keep us posted on the decision and through the process

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Sure..i enrolled for Knewton mainly because i felt that my verbal score is low because of lack of practice. What i heard of knewton is that thet mimic the OG questions, so i feel that is what i need..

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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2011, 10:53
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I am curious what you guys end up picking - please keep us posted on the decision and through the process

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Sure..i enrolled for Knewton mainly because i felt that my verbal score is low because of lack of practice. What i heard of knewton is that thet mimic the OG questions, so i feel that is what i need..

Will post the review.. :)



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i took the Ondemand class
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I have taken three courses, MGMAT, Knewton, and mastergmat.

here are my views:
Mastergmat: the course is average. The content is not enough for you if you are targeting above 710.
Pros:
1. Excellent support from instructors. This i think is the best part. even though the course is not really adaptive, but i could schedule many sessions with them and in those sessions they shared with my specific weak areas and strong areas(like "special triangles" / "paradox resolving") from their back-end data based on my performance on the course-ware. Ditto for AWA. These were one-to-one sessions and were the most helpful in bettering my performance. Such one to one attention was not there in the other two.
2. detailed and patient one-on-one CAT analyses.
2. Awesome AWA analysis and preparation support. This included templates for both essays and detailed analysis of 4 essays each (issue and argument).
3. quick responses to emails. There was also constant encouragement and morale boosting, even in my one to one session on the lest day of prep; a personal touch:)

Cons:
1. average content. Not very reflective of actual GMAT. I would say i found the content easy and tricks (covered extensively on knewton) were there but not as good.
2. CATs were not good. For one they give the score in a range. my ranges were smtimes 690-710 and smtimes 730-770: clearly confusing. second, i used to get more than 4 RCs on my tests (smtimes even 7! ) with 2 - 5 questions each. The reason they gave for this abnormality is that their system ran out of higher level questions to give me and since RC had highest weightage on their system, thats wat used to pop up for me.

Knewton: Good. but not enough if you want extra help. Id say take it if you can study entirely on your using their online material.
Pros:
1. Good content, and CATs: GMAT like.
2. very explanatory videos (on demand or live) covering the session topic very well.
3. good coverage on realistic test taking methods/ tricks. really helped, especially their "tells" for identifying sentence errors in verbal, tricks in math, and their guessing techniques for desperate situations. coming to the 50-50 split was greatly emphasised and it works well on test day.
4. gave very handy "Knotes" covering entire syllabus in a few pages.

Mixed:
1. It's 'adaptive'. This is the most discussed and publicised part of Knewton. But honestly, having seen waht exactly is adaptive in there, i think it is a little too hyped (and takes away attention from other things)

Cons:
1. extremely bad support. I didnt attend live sessions so i cannot be sure how much time the instructor wud spend with you after a live class. but as such queries you put on their query platform (answres.knewton) went unanswered fr days! reason they gave: nature of query is such that they get qued, hence the delay. One of my verbal queries(something on identifying paradoxes) was unanswred for 20 days inspite of my emails/additional queries. i didnt understand wat was wrong with its nature. ;) I gave up.
2. bad test analysis system. they only explain why the correct answer is correct and why the worngs are wrong. if you disagree or cannot understand only option is to post a query. they also do not provide the difficulty level of questions on your results page. so you cannot analyse your test performance even yourself very accurately. i posted queries for help on analysing my tests, never got replies. i saw others too on their forum who got no replies to similar qstns. they gave Same reason: 'nature of query'. AWA analyses/preparation support was also pretty limited.
3. Once you exhaust their material(i did in two months, my gmat was due after another full month) theres nothing more you can do except go over their "concept que" :one page dedicated to one highly specific concept. while these pages help, theres still no content left fr you to practice on. couldnt even retale my CATs. i ventured to ask for more material. of course i got no reply.
4. in case, for any reason, you wish to restart the course you cannot get the adaptive aspect back. you can only retake section wise tests you have already taken. They dont reset your account. their reason: resetting will cause loss of data for them (and you)

one case specific problem was that their live classes are held for students across the globe. their timings never suited me (3 am /4 am/ 1am...) hence i completely lost out on a part of wat i paid for.

My experience was bad with knewton. with the money i paid, i needed good support for answering my doubts and not just unending interconnnected concepts and material left or me to do by myself. personally i found the scoring awkward too. on one instance i got two verbal questions(far apart frm each other) wrong and scored 41 while on another i got 7 wrong (3 consecutive plus 2 others consecutive, and 2 separate) and got 42. didnt underatnt it. but cant say.... cz i dnt know hw it wrks. no knowldge abt diffcutly level compouned problems.


MGMAT: By far the best. even its test series alone can bring about great improvement. I didnt go through the entire material. just did the tests and used parts of the material (a few PDFs). Ill therefore not list the pros and cons but just say that whatevr i did from MGMAT was fresh and great. The CAT analyses was absolutely fabulous! very detailed and helped me improve A LOT. It ensured that i never slipped downward. only went upward in my score. I didnt need any support. BTW, they also provide you the option to reset your account to start from scratch if you want to(in case your prep got a break or somethng). PS: their flashcards were very handy.


Phew. long post. i hope this helps. These are completely my personal views based on my personal experience.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2011, 02:48
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yes. i scored 730 (qa49,va40) AWA 6.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 11 Sep 2011, 03:38
just to add. i had taken each of these courses at different times. Knewton took me from 630 to 680 in CATs(i didnt take the actual test), mastergmat got me 680, and MGMAT CATs with thorough OG practice got me 730.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2011, 23:16
Thanks for the info ritu230
reg Knewton's verbal material- I have enrolled for knewton course. I would like to know how good the material and its questions are relative to the ACTUAL gmat verbal questions. Do you attribute any improvement in your verbal score to knewton?

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"how good the material and its questions are relative to the ACTUAL gmat verbal question"- pretty much yes.

"Do you attribute any improvement in your verbal score to knewton?" - No. In my first GMAT attempt i got very nervous and on top of that i was hungry during the verbal section. (yes its true! i hadnt accounted for it. and i cudnt apply my brains with a hungry stomach). So that accounts for the low score. As such my verbal score was always >=40. Having said that, i'd say that the way they explain verbal concepts in their vids is good. It's easy to pick up even finer points from their explanations.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2011, 14:02
received a ridiculously low score on my first gmat. I just signed up with knewton so I am hoping to see a substancial boost. With me luck!
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received a ridiculously low score on my first gmat. I just signed up with knewton so I am hoping to see a substancial boost. With me luck!


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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2011, 14:29
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received a ridiculously low score on my first gmat. I just signed up with knewton so I am hoping to see a substancial boost. With me luck!


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if so, you will also get access to the GMAT Club Tests.

I thought i did. Am I supposed to have access to all of the tests? or only the Knewton ones?
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You should have access to both: Knewton Tests and GMAT Club Tests

I have provided free access for yo to the GMAT Club Tests.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2011, 15:09
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You should have access to both: Knewton Tests and GMAT Club Tests

I have provided free access for yo to the GMAT Club Tests.

Thanks a lot! I need anything i can get.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2011, 15:47
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I just signed up with knewton so I am hoping to see a substancial boost. With me luck!



Best of luck my friend. Go through each and every lessons of knewton, they are awesome. Also read their concept library. Their concept library is a little hard to navigate but still I will say go through all of the library. In fact I copied each and every page of their library into open office document and then into a pdf book of 90 page just for sentence correction alone. I am finding this book on par with mgmt sc guide and it is helping me increase my accuracy on sc. Hope you will take benefit of all these and ace the gmat. Best of luck again!
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 20 Sep 2011, 16:23
I used Princeton Review's classroom course, wanted to take MGMAT but couldn't make it fit into my work schedule.

I found PR to be pretty average. My class only had 5 people in it, so I was expecting a lot of catered instruction, and I made it clear to the instructor that I wanted to score 700+. What really turned me off was my instructor hadn't taken an actual GMAT in years, and couldn't even remember what her score was! IMO, if you are teaching a GMAT Prep class, you should be required by your parent organization to sit and take the REAL GMAT on a recurring basis (I really don't care how often, perhaps once a year?), in order to stay on the up and up with the latest trends on the test! I guarantee things are somewhat different now than they were when she took the test. This is why I wanted MGMAT, where all instructors score 760+ and take the exam frequently.

PR was designed for someone looking to score 550-650, definitely not 700+. While they have resources and advanced drills to help people with those goals, it's just not the same as having a living instructor who engages with you regularly to help you through the process of reaching a 90th percentile score. After all, that's why you're paying $1000+ for the class instead of $25 for an advanced quant book or SC guide.

I ended up scoring a 750 on the real GMAT, but I attribute this primarily to the exhaustive prep I did on my own, (200-300 hours over 4 months) using all the MGMAT books and OGs plus supplementary OGs, plus some GMAT Club tests.

On the whole, I wouldn't recommend PR if you can go for MGMAT's class (even the online one, which I have seen and the format is essentially just as good as being there in real life). PR was ok for some basics and study techniques, but I think you can get more from your money elsewhere.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2011, 01:44
I have a question about the Manhattan 9 Session Prep Course.

I already bought the 8 Strategy guides as well as the Offical Guide (12th ed) - is there any way to get a discount on the course if do not want to get the books again? (i.e. deduct the price for the books from the total course fee...)

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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 14 Nov 2011, 20:34
Hi,
Recently i have discovered Master GMAT course.
I have taken its free trial and liked it, and i want to go ahead with it.
Can any body suggest about it.
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Re: GMAT Prep course reviews, discount, codes [#permalink] New post 30 Nov 2011, 20:22
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I already bought the 8 Strategy guides as well as the Offical Guide (12th ed) - is there any way to get a discount on the course if do not want to get the books again? (i.e. deduct the price for the books from the total course fee...)

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I believe You can actually get a discount (don't quote me on it) - just check with the MGMAT representative and they will give you a credit (won't ship the books either)
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I already bought the 8 Strategy guides as well as the Offical Guide (12th ed) - is there any way to get a discount on the course if do not want to get the books again? (i.e. deduct the price for the books from the total course fee...)

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I believe You can actually get a discount (don't quote me on it) - just check with the MGMAT representative and they will give you a credit (won't ship the books either)



I spoke with a Manhattan representative and she told me that you only get a discount for the Official Guide books. You WOULD not get a discount if you already own the Manhattan series. It doesn't make sense that they wouldn't give you a discount because you will have two sets of the Manhattan series. I guess you would have to sell one set. Right now, I am researching the different courses to determine if I need to take one.
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