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In my GMAt prep 2 , i encountered a very strange scenario, for me it was strange. I encountered first two RC back to back from 9 to 17th, First one was Russian women emancipation and second dealt with Law suites (ruling of court). Christ!!!, I pray pls help me from such scenarios. Last two RC's back to back in 30th series i.e. 31 to 37 again one 60 liner and other literature.......hell!!!!!!I think nothing can be worse than this!!!!
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In my GMAt prep 2 , i encountered a very strange scenario, for me it was strange. I encountered first two RC back to back from 9 to 17th, First one was Russian women emancipation and second dealt with Law suites (ruling of court). Christ!!!, I pray pls help me from such scenarios. Last two RC's back to back in 30th series i.e. 31 to 37 again one 60 liner and other literature.......hell!!!!!!I think nothing can be worse than this!!!!


Well, this is odd. But on a positive note, you have tasted the bitter part, everything will look good in the next tests because it is really rare to see 2 RCs back to back and that too two times in the same test.

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In my GMAt prep 2 , i encountered a very strange scenario, for me it was strange. I encountered first two RC back to back from 9 to 17th, First one was Russian women emancipation and second dealt with Law suites (ruling of court). Christ!!!, I pray pls help me from such scenarios. Last two RC's back to back in 30th series i.e. 31 to 37 again one 60 liner and other literature.......hell!!!!!!I think nothing can be worse than this!!!!


Well, this is odd. But on a positive note, you have tasted the bitter part, everything will look good in the next tests because it is really rare to see 2 RCs back to back and that too two times in the same test.

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Moreover at two crucial junctures of the tests.....4th question was first in the lot 9th was last in the array. Than 31st to 37th...I mean i was so frustrated, its not that i have not practiced such sets earlier...i have practiced back to back 3 rc's but when the test presented the law suit rc, everything went for a toss.By the end i gave up and guessed the last rc saving time for last few cr's and sc.

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In my GMAt prep 2 , i encountered a very strange scenario, for me it was strange. I encountered first two RC back to back from 9 to 17th, First one was Russian women emancipation and second dealt with Law suites (ruling of court). Christ!!!, I pray pls help me from such scenarios. Last two RC's back to back in 30th series i.e. 31 to 37 again one 60 liner and other literature.......hell!!!!!!I think nothing can be worse than this!!!!


Well, this is odd. But on a positive note, you have tasted the bitter part, everything will look good in the next tests because it is really rare to see 2 RCs back to back and that too two times in the same test.

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Moreover at two crucial junctures of the tests.....4th question was first in the lot 9th was last in the array. Than 31st to 37th...I mean i was so frustrated, its not that i have not practiced such sets earlier...i have practiced back to back 3 rc's but when the test presented the law suit rc, everything went for a toss.By the end i gave up and guessed the last rc saving time for last few cr's and sc.

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Hey archit, do you mind posting the RC link in my pm. I would love to try it out.

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Questions might seem easy if you are practicing them singly , but in test scenario......I cannot explain, that too 7 questions of your first 10......

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Questions might seem easy if you are practicing them singly , but in test scenario......I cannot explain, that too 7 questions of your first 10......

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Questions might seem easy if you are practicing them singly , but in test scenario......I cannot explain, that too 7 questions of your first 10......

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took time to understand what are you referring to ....i checked few of my earlier..than figured out......i was referring to the links of rc passages which i got in my gmat prep.....
Actually i cannot recall.....what were the last two passages..

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Hi Carcass...
took time to understand what are you referring to ....i checked few of my earlier..than figured out......i was referring to the links of rc passages which i got in my gmat prep.....
Actually i cannot recall.....what were the last two passages..

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True not tough but i got those one after the other.....thats the twist...in first 10 itself.

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Excellent job guys!!
Consider the following scenario-
What about(for verbal) 1st 10 correct, 2 continuous mistakes in 11-20, 21-30, and 31-41 ?
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1st 10 correct, 2 continuous mistakes and 1 random mistake in each of 11-20, 21-30, 31-41 ?
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Hi guys,

So can I stick to the following strategy of time allocation per question?

I am mainly worried about the verbal part.

Q1-10 = 22-23 mins
Q11-20 = 21-22 mins
Q21-30 =17-19 mins
Q31-41 = remaining mins

I am assuming that as the questions progress, the importance decreases.

Also, in case of dire consequences, it is advisable to guess on the last RC passage and focus on other questions ?

Thanks again for the brutal analysis.
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So can I stick to the following strategy of time allocation per question?

I am mainly worried about the verbal part.

Q1-10 = 22-23 mins
Q11-20 = 21-22 mins
Q21-30 =17-19 mins
Q31-41 = remaining mins

I am assuming that as the questions progress, the importance decreases.

Also, in case of dire consequences, it is advisable to guess on the last RC passage and focus on other questions ?

Thanks again for the brutal analysis.


Hi soumens,

The initial questions though important for your overall score do not deserve a higher time allocation because they are comparatively easier ones. So, you have to make sure to answer easy questions correctly in a timely manner. The questions in the later part of the test will be more difficult and specially the ones at the end. Form the table that you have mentioned the questions in the end will get around 15 minutes, which I think are less. And yes in very bad situations you may skip the last passage as the passages in general take a longer time to attempt correctly.

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Important Clarification: we have a strong reason to believe that even though GMAT Prep is the closest algorithm to the GMAT, it is most likely NOT identical. Some of these scenarios may result into a different outcome when attempted on the real test. We so far have no reports to confirm or dismiss these results based on the test day experience.


Yeah I think one of the reasons could be that GMATPrep does not contain experimental questions as GMAT does.


I was told by GMAC that the GMATPrep software uses "the same number of questions as the exam when calculating [the] score" - this might add an element of randomness to the analysis.

Has anyone tested the effect of leaving questions blank? How much does it impact your score? Does it impact your score more than it does it you got them wrong instead?
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Important Clarification: we have a strong reason to believe that even though GMAT Prep is the closest algorithm to the GMAT, it is most likely NOT identical. Some of these scenarios may result into a different outcome when attempted on the real test. We so far have no reports to confirm or dismiss these results based on the test day experience.


Yeah I think one of the reasons could be that GMATPrep does not contain experimental questions as GMAT does.


I was told by GMAC that the GMATPrep software uses "the same number of questions as the exam when calculating [the] score" - this might add an element of randomness to the analysis.

Has anyone tested the effect of leaving questions blank? How much does it impact your score? Does it impact your score more than it does it you got them wrong instead?


Hi mmagyar,

In GMAT the only questions that you can leave blank are the ones at the end of the test. Well, leaving the questions blank in the end would damage your score more than what getting them wrong would. But, I think it is a good idea to conduct one test to determine by how much the score will be affected.

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You may refer to the gmat pacer from the below link:

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Hi guys,

So can I stick to the following strategy of time allocation per question?

I am mainly worried about the verbal part.

Q1-10 = 22-23 mins
Q11-20 = 21-22 mins
Q21-30 =17-19 mins
Q31-41 = remaining mins

I am assuming that as the questions progress, the importance decreases.

Also, in case of dire consequences, it is advisable to guess on the last RC passage and focus on other questions ?

Thanks again for the brutal analysis.


Hi soumens,

The initial questions though important for your overall score do not deserve a higher time allocation because they are comparatively easier ones. So, you have to make sure to answer easy questions correctly in a timely manner. The questions in the later part of the test will be more difficult and specially the ones at the end. Form the table that you have mentioned the questions in the end will get around 15 minutes, which I think are less. And yes in very bad situations you may skip the last passage as the passages in general take a longer time to attempt correctly.

You may refer to the gmat pacer from the below link:

verbal-chat-this-wednesday-feb-13th-9-a-m-pst-147125.html#p1181996

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Hi vercules
I may sound silly ...but i hav a doubt...
I know that test centre ppl give only one note book for rough work.......where should i write the timing of the pacer ...I have been practising by writing it in a paper and keeping infront of the desktop...do the test center ppl will give 2 notebooks for rough work intially....i do not think so


what is the soln to this


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Vercules wrote:
soumens wrote:
Hi guys,

So can I stick to the following strategy of time allocation per question?

I am mainly worried about the verbal part.

Q1-10 = 22-23 mins
Q11-20 = 21-22 mins
Q21-30 =17-19 mins
Q31-41 = remaining mins

I am assuming that as the questions progress, the importance decreases.

Also, in case of dire consequences, it is advisable to guess on the last RC passage and focus on other questions ?

Thanks again for the brutal analysis.


Hi soumens,

The initial questions though important for your overall score do not deserve a higher time allocation because they are comparatively easier ones. So, you have to make sure to answer easy questions correctly in a timely manner. The questions in the later part of the test will be more difficult and specially the ones at the end. Form the table that you have mentioned the questions in the end will get around 15 minutes, which I think are less. And yes in very bad situations you may skip the last passage as the passages in general take a longer time to attempt correctly.

You may refer to the gmat pacer from the below link:

verbal-chat-this-wednesday-feb-13th-9-a-m-pst-147125.html#p1181996

Vercules


Hi vercules
I may sound silly ...but i hav a doubt...
I know that test centre ppl give only one note book for rough work.......where should i write the timing of the pacer ...I have been practising by writing it in a paper and keeping infront of the desktop...do the test center ppl will give 2 notebooks for rough work intially....i do not think so


what is the soln to this


Archit


Hi Archit,

No, you are not sounding silly at all; it is a justified question.

The invigilator will not give you two rough pads. Moreover, if you are done with one, they will replace it with a new one.

One solution is to write down the benchmarks again on the second rough pad. But, if you develop a time sense through your practice, then that would be the most effective way to keep track of time.

I practiced these two for my GMAT:

i) 1 minute sense for individual questions.
ii) Sense of time for the equal time intervals.

By practice you can develop this.

Do go through this awesome a article by Stacy Koprince from MGMAT.

http://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... anagement/

She has very beautifully described how to develop this 1 minute time sense and other points to keep in mind to manage time during GMAT.

Hope that helps,

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Hey
For only quants we need an extra rough pad...that too towards the end ie last 10 questions remaining..so there may be it is an issue ....
but for verbal i do not think it is as it is rare to ask for another rough pad...i messed up my last gmat only because of timing and do not want this to be messed up because of timing........
lets see what turns what on the test day.

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