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GMAT/revised GRE? Trying to understand what will suit me [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2012, 00:02
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Well, before i post my query it's important i talk a lil bit abt my profile.

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I have close to 10 yrs of experience , 8/10 is managerial. My last role was a leadership role. I recently moved to the U.S and thought of studying further. I want to do masters in HR from an ivy league. I even visited my dream college in fall last yr and they were positive about my profile.On the applications and Recco front i am satisfied that i have solid stuff to present. But it's the compt adaptive test that has been worrying. I took the GMAT this week.

Why i decided to take the GMAT : :idea:
The school i want to go to requires a GRE but also accepts GMAT. i thought of taking the GMAT since i had prepared for it (although v lil) a few yrs back. Also, my husband had given the GMAT recently and was willing to coach me. He had done really well on the GMAT and got into one of the top 5 B schools. Another reason for choosing the GMAT over GRE was that GRE pattern was changing and no one was sure abt the new pattern.

GMAT - a Let down..didn't do well : :|
I prepared for the GMAT for 3 months, did intense study. I struggled big time getting back to studies after a gap of 12 yrs. I struggled a lot with Quant and CR.I have a humanities background so math was an uphill task. Finally on the day of the exam my nerves got the better of me and i didn't do well on both Q and Verbal.

Do i take the GRE?
I'm now trying to decide whether i should try the GRE. The good part abt preparing for the GMAT was that i studied a lot of math. I am not as phobic as i was when i started. But i still don't think i can deal with the tricky questions that come on the GMAT, DS was a horror. Regarding the Verbal - i have been told that RC is the same on both but Vocab is a killer on GRE. If it requires cramming , im fine with that (i did better in history over math any day

I have about 4-5 months to prep as the 2nd round's gone for me now.

Pls share your thoughts
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Re: GMAT/revised GRE? Trying to understand what will suit me [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2012, 11:34
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The good news is there is no DS on the new GRE. The Quant section in general is easier. It tests the same concepts as the GMAT but the questions are not as tricky and convoluted. For example, if you have a strong grasp of factorials and a factorial question appears on the new GRE, you will probably be able to answer it. If you see a factorial question on GMAT, there may be a twist that would confound a straightforward approach.

The verbal section on the Revised GRE is, for many, more difficult than that of the GMAT. For one SC (besides those pesky idioms!) can be broken down to a series of rules (something the MGMAT guide does very well). On the GRE, the sophistication of the vocabulary often requires that you be exposed over the years to academic-level texts. To accelerate this process can indeed be challenging. However, if you have four to five months you will definitely be able to master a format, and a lot of words too!

Approach vocabulary learning on the new GRE is not simply a matter of memorizing a bunch of flashcards. On how to study for the GRE verbal section in general, and specifically for vocabulary, this post is helpful:

http://magoosh.com/gre/2011/how-to-stud ... vised-gre/

As to which test will suit your better, take the following Revised GRE test under timed conditions. Tabulate your score and see where you rate, percentage-wise, compared to your GMAT score.

http://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/practice_b ... l_test.pdf

If you score much lower, then definitely retake the GMAT. If the two percentile rankings are similar, then the decision is tougher. On one hand will need less time adapting to the format. On the other, if you are already doing as well on the GRE as you did on the GMAT, without any prep, then there is significant room for improvement.

I hope that helps, and let me know if you have any other questions regarding the two tests. I’d be happy to help!
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Re: GMAT/revised GRE? Trying to understand what will suit me [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2012, 07:57
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I agree with Chris that you should take a practice GRE and see where you stand. Make sure to take the practice test under official conditions, just like the real test. (I'm assuming you took practice GMAT tests also - if not, then take a practice GMAT under official conditions.)

Then you can see how you did on the two - if one test is a lot easier for you, the answer is made for you! (Note: the reason I'm telling you to take a practice GMAT, even though you have a real GMAT score, is this: we don't know right now how much nerves might have affected you on the real test, so if we want to make a true comparison, we need to do so on a "level playing field" - two practice tests.)

Also, you may want to read the below article I wrote last year (I just copied it here) - it discusses some of the issues in deciding between the GRE and the GMAT. I originally wrote the article before the GRE switched to the new version in August of last year, so I just edited to update a bit.


Should I take the GMAT or the GRE?
Stacey Koprince, ManhattanGMAT, copyright 2011

Many business schools, including Stanford, Harvard, and Wharton, accept either the GMAT or the GRE. Which one should you take, and how can you decide?

There are two aspects to consider: whether you would have a significant scoring advantage on one test versus the other, and whether certain schools have shown a preference for one exam over the other. We’re going to address the first aspect in this article; we’ll leave the second consideration for the admissions consultants. (To date, no school has reported a preference for one exam over the other.)

Both exams consist of multiple-choice quantitative and verbal sections, as well as an essay-writing section. Both tests are also scheduled to be revamped significantly: the GRE in August of this year (2011) and the GMAT in June of 2012. [So the GRE has switched to the new version now, but not the GMAT.]

So let’s take a look at the structures of the tests.

Quant

The two exams test high-school level math (including number properties, algebra, geometry, and statistics) and currently use fairly similar question types. Both tests have standard “problem-solving” questions – the basic math multiple choice questions that appear on any multiple-choice math test. The tests also have questions that combine elements of quant content and mathematical logic; on the GMAT, these are called Data Sufficiency and, on the GRE, these are called Quantitative Comparisons. The GRE also includes a small number of Data Interpretation questions, where we’re given a table or graph and we have to answer several questions about the presented data.

The general consensus is that GRE math is easier than GMAT math. I’ve taken both exams and agree; GRE math is markedly easier than GMAT math. The new GRE contains two 35-minute quant sections. The quant sections still test high-school level math, but the proportion of questions involving data interpretation and quantitative reasoning increased. In addition, new question formats include things like “fill in the blank” answers (no multiple choice options) and multiple choice questions that can have more than one right answer (you must select all of the correct answers in order to earn any credit). Most people feel that this has made the GRE quant harder than it used to be, but still not as hard as GMAT quant.

In June 2012, the GMAT will also launch its revised CAT. It appears that the quant section will not change; rather, a new Integrated Reasoning section will be added to the exam (and one of the two essays will be cut). This new section will combine math content, data interpretation, and logic. The question forms have not yet been finalized, but the samples I have seen were either on a par with the current GMAT quant section (in terms of difficulty).

I would guess that the new GMAT quant will continue to be more challenging in general than GRE quant, though there is no way to know for sure until after both revisions have actually launched.

Verbal

The two tests are more similar in terms of their emphasis on comprehension-type questions, though the GRE will also include components of vocabulary while the GMAT will include components of grammar. Generally speaking, then, if you are better with vocab, you may prefer the GRE; if you’re better with grammar, then you may prefer the GMAT.

Essays

Of course, nobody cares as much about the essays (because the schools don’t). Currently, both tests require us to write two essays. After the GMAT revision, that test will require only one. Other than that, the only thing I have to say about the essays is this: you aren’t going to base your decision (about which test to take) on the essays, so there’s nothing else for us to discuss!

Take-aways

As a general rule, GRE quant is somewhat easier than GMAT quant.

On the verbal side, the GRE is better for those with a strong vocabulary, while the current GMAT is better for those with strong grammar skills.

Still not sure what to do? Take a practice test! Two, actually. Take both a GMAT and a GRE under 100% official conditions, including the essays. Take them several days apart; don’t give yourself an artificial handicap on one by taking it later in the same day.

Ideally, take the official practice tests provided by the official test writers. (Yes, I know we normally save those for later in our study, but this decision is important enough that you want to make sure you’re basing it on the best data that you can get. Just don’t review the tests in much depth afterwards; then you can repeat the test in a few months after you’ve forgotten all of the questions.) If there’s a significant difference in your starting percentile ranking, your question has been answered.

Let us know what you decide and how you decided; your fellow students will appreciate your insight. Good luck!
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Re: GMAT/revised GRE? Trying to understand what will suit me [#permalink] New post 12 Jan 2012, 11:41
Hi Chris and Stacey,

Thanks a bunch. I have been reading a lot about the two tests. I have been looking at GRE questions too. I will soon take a Diagnostic test and let you know what i think.

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Re: GMAT/revised GRE? Trying to understand what will suit me [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2012, 16:55
Hi Chris and Stacey,

I took the GRE, powerprep diagnostic test today. Well, to begin with i felt the format is very different than that of GMAT and that confused me quite a bit. There were multiple choices to be made instead of one , as in i had to choose more than one correct answer.I could use the calculator and i could review questions, and move back within the same section.

Verbal Section:
Honestly, the verbal section went over my head because of the heavy vocab. There's lot of work to be done in vocab. I found the RC and CR questions more or less similar. While doing the questions i got convinced i was not going to fair well in Verbal. It requires a lot of practice. I found it harder than that of GMAT because i had n't learnt the vocab it tests.

Quant Section:
I found it much better than that of GMAT. finally i felt my hardwork in the past 3 months wasn't a waste. I was atleast not intimidated by the questions as i was while giving GMAT mock tests and the actual exam. Because i was n't familiar with the GRE format i wasn't able to answer a few questions in the first Quant section. I had marked them for review however, towards the end i pressed the wrong button and was forced to start the next section. I lost out on those precious points.

Score:
My diagnostic test score is 360-460,Verbal ; 670-770,Quant. The college i want to get in to has a median score of 574 Verbal; 672 Quantitative; 4.4 Analytical.

i didn't do the AWA section (although i know it's good to do the complete test but frankly, i didn't have that much patience) My GMAT AWA score with 1 day prep was 5/6 so i decided to take it easy but ofcourse that's not going to be the case when i get down to studying for the GRE and doing subsequent mock Tests.

I think im gonna go for GRE now. Pls help me interpret my scores and advise on pushing up the scores.

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Re: GMAT/revised GRE? Trying to understand what will suit me [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2013, 14:24
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This is an older discussion. For folks still contemplating the GRE vs. GMAT for B-school, here's a more recent blog my friend Chris:
http://magoosh.com/gre/2013/gre-for-business-school/
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