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01 Aug 2003, 13:18
I think the gmat score does take time into account, especially for the first question.If you spend a long time on the first question, the base of your score will be low even you get it right. The longer you spend on one question, the easier your next question will be and lower score you will get. So make a choice between answering it right and answering it quickly. Belive me. I had my lesson.
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01 Aug 2003, 13:28
zxiaoli1 wrote:
I think the gmat score does take time into account, especially for the first question.If you spend a long time on the first question, the base of your score will be low even you get it right. The longer you spend on one question, the easier your next question will be and lower score you will get. So make a choice between answering it right and answering it quickly. Belive me. I had my lesson.

I strongly disagree with that. You can take as long as you want on a particular question, but you will be penalized if you do not finish.
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01 Aug 2003, 13:57
zxiaoli1 wrote:
I think the gmat score does take time into account, especially for the first question.If you spend a long time on the first question, the base of your score will be low even you get it right. The longer you spend on one question, the easier your next question will be and lower score you will get. So make a choice between answering it right and answering it quickly. Belive me. I had my lesson.

Can you offer us some kind of proof or evidence of this? Otherwise posts like this are highly irresponsible - somebody may read this and believe it.
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01 Aug 2003, 14:11
carlq wrote:
zxiaoli1 wrote:
I think the gmat score does take time into account, especially for the first question.If you spend a long time on the first question, the base of your score will be low even you get it right. The longer you spend on one question, the easier your next question will be and lower score you will get. So make a choice between answering it right and answering it quickly. Belive me. I had my lesson.

Can you offer us some kind of proof or evidence of this? Otherwise posts like this are highly irresponsible - somebody may read this and believe it.

This is the official ETS line:

Quote:

1) the number of questions you answer
2) whether you answer the questions correctly or incorrectly
3) the level of difficulty and other statistical characteristics of each question

There is nothing about how long you take to answer a specific question.
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01 Aug 2003, 17:13
AkamaiBrah wrote:
carlq wrote:
zxiaoli1 wrote:
I think the gmat score does take time into account, especially for the first question.If you spend a long time on the first question, the base of your score will be low even you get it right. The longer you spend on one question, the easier your next question will be and lower score you will get. So make a choice between answering it right and answering it quickly. Belive me. I had my lesson.

Can you offer us some kind of proof or evidence of this? Otherwise posts like this are highly irresponsible - somebody may read this and believe it.

Maybe you should practice what you preach. You are the one making the original assertion, which you have made with no reasonable basis other than your own "expert" intuition and which can erroneously lead a student to rushing on a question unnecessarily should you be proven wrong.

This is the official ETS line:

Quote:

1) the number of questions you answer
2) whether you answer the questions correctly or incorrectly
3) the level of difficulty and other statistical characteristics of each question

There is nothing about how long you take to answer a specific question.

Just who is "irresponsible"?

Akamai - I think you messed up who you were responding too. I was questioning the original poster "zxiaoli1".
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01 Aug 2003, 18:42
Sorry, I did not mean to confuse all you.

The speed will somehow decide the level of the difficulty of the next question. Anyway you will get a better score if you can finish the test quickly and correctly. Image the same test for two people, the one who finish earlier with the same number of correct answers as the other one will definitely get the higher score.
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01 Aug 2003, 18:48
zxiaoli1 wrote:
Sorry, I did not mean to confuse all you.

The speed will somehow decide the level of the difficulty of the next question. Anyway you will get a better score if you can finish the test quickly and correctly. Image the same test for two people, the one who finish earlier with the same number of correct answers as the other one will definitely get the higher score.
???

zxiaoli1 - again - do you have ANY evidence of this anywhere??? This goes against everything written about the test.
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01 Aug 2003, 19:26
zxiaoli1 wrote:
Sorry, I did not mean to confuse all you.

The speed will somehow decide the level of the difficulty of the next question. Anyway you will get a better score if you can finish the test quickly and correctly. Image the same test for two people, the one who finish earlier with the same number of correct answers as the other one will definitely get the higher score.
???

You are totally wrong in both your assertions. The type of question you get next is solely dependent on whether you get the question right or wrong.

You get NO brownie point for finishing early.

I challenge you to find one iota of evidence supporting any of your "facts".
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01 Aug 2003, 20:07
Just like all of you I am trying to find the truth, no point to mess thing up.

Following is the in formation I copied from one tutoring website:
The big problem we're now seeing with that approach is that students spend too much time on problems they can't solve and don't get to problems they can. The result is a significant drop in scores. My students who blow the timing on their first try and get the timing right on their second usually improve almost 100 points.

So don't stick with the most difficult problems too long. Blow them off quickly and get onto the next question.
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01 Aug 2003, 20:44
Look, who cares about strategy, understand the content behind questions. You must be scoring very high if you are worry about trivial crap like this
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01 Aug 2003, 21:32
zxiaoli1 wrote:
Just like all of you I am trying to find the truth, no point to mess thing up.

Following is the in formation I copied from one tutoring website:
The big problem we're now seeing with that approach is that students spend too much time on problems they can't solve and don't get to problems they can. The result is a significant drop in scores. My students who blow the timing on their first try and get the timing right on their second usually improve almost 100 points.

So don't stick with the most difficult problems too long. Blow them off quickly and get onto the next question.

While that quote is certainly reasonable, your assertions that: 1) the GMAT gives you different questions based on your time spent on the previous question; and 2) one will get a higher score if one finishes earlier are most certainly not inferrable from that quote.

Telling people not to spend too much time on a problem is good advice.
Telling people that you get more points or a different question for doing a problem quicker is bad because it is not true
Teaching good time management is good advice.
Telling people that they will get a higher score for finishing early is bad because it is not true

If you want help people find the truth -- don't spread things that are not true.
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01 Aug 2003, 23:43
OK, Jokers,

I took the PowerPrep just to reply to the rummor - the time you spend on the question does not matter.

I took like 7 minutes for the first question and 5 for the second one. I also procrastinated a lot but then finished about half an hour early since I knew most of the questions. The score was regular.

I miseed 4 questions: 8, 11, 26, 27 and I got 49, which is 93rd percentile.

I did not have time for verbal fun...

TIME DOES NOT MATTER.

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01 Aug 2003, 23:45
zxiaoli1 wrote:
Just like all of you I am trying to find the truth, no point to mess thing up.

Following is the in formation I copied from one tutoring website:
The big problem we're now seeing with that approach is that students spend too much time on problems they can't solve and don't get to problems they can. The result is a significant drop in scores. My students who blow the timing on their first try and get the timing right on their second usually improve almost 100 points.

So don't stick with the most difficult problems too long. Blow them off quickly and get onto the next question.

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