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GMAT Today 710 (Q 48, V39) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 09:20
Hey Gmat forum users:

I just got my unfficial score today (7/16). I figured I owe it to the forum to detail my exerience. Please bear in mind i am not advocating you follow everything I did (most understand this I realize) and that I am officially operating a 50% brain capacity so I apologize if I get a little goofy.

My study plan

Kaplan Verbal Foundations
Kaplan Math Foundations

Both these books are great refreshers and although they do have a lot of weird errors in printing (some answers to questions that are never asked in the book) but it is clear what is an error and they do really refresh and build a foundation

Manhattan guides.

Everyone of these guides is valuable. The math ones were better than the verbal in my opinion. The advanced sections in the books and the online question banks are invaluable. The manhattan had questions that were truest to the gmat where some of the material i tried had pretty irrelevant questions

OG 12

This book must be used but as most in the forum advise do not use this first as it is invaluable way to track errors and discover strengths and weaknesses. I guess the only sports analogy I can think of is to use this first would be like to watch film of the team you are playing after you play the game instead of before it. Wow that was terrible but believe me it is better to use these resources near the middle to middle end of preparation

Error Log

Using an error log is important. I used an error log for the OG and it paid off to go back and redo what I got wrong. I cannot say I went back multiple times to the error log but I think of myself as a person with a strong memory so once I notated my errors once I knew where to focus. Some people may consult the log more than others but once you know, you know where to focus. On the manhattan, it already has an error log so you do not need to put a huge effort as all the data is saved.

Practice Exams
Gmat Prep (1) – 650
Manhattan (1) – 610
Manhattan (2) – 640
Gmat Prep (2) – 700

Again I found Manhattan the most relevant test. I also found the questions harder than the gmat prep and apparently harder than the actual gmat (710). I redid every question I got wrong on each test.

I had my exam at 8 am in the morning. I studied for 3 months. The week before I tried to do nothing but ended up studying anyway until Wednesday. I find I perform better with energy drinks as it energizes my mind. I finished all the sections with times left but I had to use the bathroom really bad, which is a draw back from energy drinks (I used 2 5 hour energy) as it speeds up everything . It is probably better not to force yourself to study hard during that week as there is such an expanse of material you prob won’t do a huge amount of good.
That plays into my next point, do not get completely caught up in one area. I became obsessed with SC. I focused on it for 3 weeks and then realized I was so concerned with it I was neglecting other areas and it only represents around 3/8ths (math at this point is questionable so please correct me) of the exam. The exam is in total so do not lose focus. This is a dangerous trap and one of the most important lessons I learned. Unless you are top 5% you will probably not master every section. I did not try to do every weird set out there of extra hard questions, I did not post questions on the forum, I basically just used Manhattan and OG but again I am not advocating ignoring the forum. Without the forum I prob would’ve used terrible material and not done as well. I am just saying this to let people know there are many ways to get a good score as most people post they do the 1000 sc, post every questions, and are very active in the forum. That undoubtedly can help but is not required.

Overall, this forum has been invaluable to me and I am thankful to the moderators for putting up extremely useful info. Good luck everyone and take what you will from my story as there is no guideline for a what works, this worked for me. Again I am not saying forum doesn’t work but some of the material out there may be overload and overdone, but evaluate for yourself. Thanks GMAT FORUM YOU WERE GREAT!
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Re: GMAT Today 710 (Q 48, V39) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 10:03
Congrats ....
My exam is on 22 July . Any suggestions for last time preparation

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Re: GMAT Today 710 (Q 48, V39) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 10:19
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Oh man!! you are my ideal!! Congrats!!! :) Just three queries.

1. You got 640 in MGMAT & relatively low score in your first GMAT Prep. How did you manage to jump from 650 to 710?? I mean what were the crucial factors?

2. When you got 650 in GMAT prep, how many did you get wrong in verbal?

3. (Sorry for two many queries) Lastly, did you manage to complete the test by having some random guessing in the end?
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Re: GMAT Today 710 (Q 48, V39) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 10:55
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To the first person above: To be honest keep calm the last week and keep a little fresh by doing a few random problems. I actually had a few drinks the night before to calm my nerves but I had done this for one the practice exams so i knew i could handle it. Now i am not saying get sloshed or drunk but it helped calm my nerves. Again wouldn’t recommend to everyone, you know what works for you so i encourage you to do that. Stay in your comfort zone but the last week and day is not the time to cram, there is a large pool of questions that can be asked so by that time you should have seen most of it anyway and if not it’s a little too late. I did address so areas I had weakness in though.

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Oh man!! you are my ideal!! Congrats!!! :) Just three queries.

1. You got 640 in MGMAT & relatively low score in your first GMAT Prep. How did you manage to jump from 650 to 710?? I mean what were the crucial factors?

2. When you got 650 in GMAT prep, how many did you get wrong in verbal?

3. (Sorry for two many queries) Lastly, did you manage to complete the test by having some random guessing in the end?
Congrats again!!!


1) No i think i never really took the exam before and the progression was more a familiarity with the exam and question type. The first exam, i did not finish the math section at all and by the time I took my last gmat prep exam I had 8 minutes left in math. Verbal was the opposite, I had 20 minutes left on the first exam and I finished with 5 on the final practice exam. The real gmat I had about 5 left on math and 3 on verbal, quite reversals. I found mahanttan much harder than gmat.

2)Getting problems wrong does not really tell you anything as each problem is valued differently based on what level the question is. 15 wrong out of 34 (didn’t finish) in math for the first practice exam (gmat prep does not show you the scores again for some reason after you take them) and 13 wrong out of 37 on my final gmat practice exam. I think what really put me through the top was I really worked through all the manhattan guides that I had been ignoring before. I thought I was okay in math until I got to the advanced section in these books which as it turns out told me how to do all the problems I had gotten wrong. I was amazed so do those and every advanced section. The only advanced section of the Mahanttan I didn’t really use was SC but I was okay hitting 50% of those anyway but the rest are a must and the Question banks are amazing. Again they were harder than the gmat for me (maybe if I was getting a 750 they would’ve been on par but oh well)

3) I did not really guess that much at the end. I did guess a few times through-out the exam. Be sure to take the break to prepare.I found my pacing in my practice exams (it took me 2 times, the third and fourth exam was the only exam I paced well on) so I did better. Plus knowing the material helps your pacing too. I would say I did not guess more at the end but rather more in the middle to ensure I had time left. Practicing the Manhattan with 120 secs per questions (do the limit by question not total time) does wonders and I encourage that. I do not suggest watching the clock during any exams though that is just distraction. On the exam just have a general idea of where you should be with the timer and look every couple of questions but you will know after some practice exams and not even think about it. I was guessing at the end after my first few practice exams but I ditched the habit. Probably outright guessed 3-4 times on official.
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Re: GMAT Today 710 (Q 48, V39) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 10:58
Opps you said verbal:

verbal 1: 12 incorrect out of 41
verbal 2: 10 incorrect out of 41
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Re: GMAT Today 710 (Q 48, V39) [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 11:33
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