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GMAT Troubles, advice please? [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 12:16
Hello Everyone,

I have had some of my own troubles with the GMAT and I would like your help.

I got a 590 (q:44, v:27) when I took the GMAT in August 2012.

After the test, I knew that it was SC and CR problems that were my weaknesses. So I started to use the Manhattan GMAT for Critical Reasoning and the Manhattan GMAT for Sentence Correction for practice questions.

I alternated between 10 problems of SC and 10 problems of CR every day until I got comfortable with the questions and started to get more of them right. I used this website for SC problems where I could find 1000 SC problems from actual GMAT and I googled various different websites for CR problems.

After I got more comfortable with the SC questions and CR questions I started to take practice tests in the Mcgraw Hill 2009 edition.

Here are my scores on those tests along with the dates:

Oct 21, 2012, score: 640
Oct 28,2012, score: 680
Nov 4, 2012, score: 680
Nov 11,2012, score: 680
Nov 18, 2012, score:640
Dec 18,2012, score:680
For the last couple of days I used the GMAT prep software to get a better feel for the real GMAT test.
Dec 21,2012, score: 650 (v:30, q:45)
Dec 23,2012, score: 700 (v:35, q:49)

I took the GMAT on Dec 26, 2012 and my score was 600 (q:47, v:27)

It seems that over the past couple of months, whatever studying I did do, was not helpful.

Although the scores on the practice tests were much higher than what I got on the GMAT, I am still confused on what I am missing.

It seems that the verbal score did not improve although the practice tests scores were better, do you have any ideas/ suggestions?
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Re: GMAT Troubles, advice please? [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2013, 15:09
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Hi bfncam2,

So you took some Mcgraw tests - but what about the GMATPrep tests?

We recommend sticking with OG13, GMATPrep tests, and GMAT Pill material.

Consider additional material only after you've gone through and religiously reviewed your errors in the 3 sources above.

Also, how did you feel after the exam - relative to how you felt after taking practice tests? Did you mimick test conditions as closely as possible and at the same time of day? Do consider the many psychological elements of the test.
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Re: GMAT Troubles, advice please? [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2013, 22:15
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bfncam2 wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I have had some of my own troubles with the GMAT and I would like your help.

I got a 590 (q:44, v:27) when I took the GMAT in August 2012.

After the test, I knew that it was SC and CR problems that were my weaknesses. So I started to use the Manhattan GMAT for Critical Reasoning and the Manhattan GMAT for Sentence Correction for practice questions.

I alternated between 10 problems of SC and 10 problems of CR every day until I got comfortable with the questions and started to get more of them right. I used this website for SC problems where I could find 1000 SC problems from actual GMAT and I googled various different websites for CR problems.

After I got more comfortable with the SC questions and CR questions I started to take practice tests in the Mcgraw Hill 2009 edition.

Here are my scores on those tests along with the dates:

Oct 21, 2012, score: 640
Oct 28,2012, score: 680
Nov 4, 2012, score: 680
Nov 11,2012, score: 680
Nov 18, 2012, score:640
Dec 18,2012, score:680
For the last couple of days I used the GMAT prep software to get a better feel for the real GMAT test.
Dec 21,2012, score: 650 (v:30, q:45)
Dec 23,2012, score: 700 (v:35, q:49)

I took the GMAT on Dec 26, 2012 and my score was 600 (q:47, v:27)

It seems that over the past couple of months, whatever studying I did do, was not helpful.

Although the scores on the practice tests were much higher than what I got on the GMAT, I am still confused on what I am missing.

It seems that the verbal score did not improve although the practice tests scores were better, do you have any ideas/ suggestions?


Your Quant scores seem to be consistent. The verbal is where you are not seeing improvement.

Did you go through a CR book? You need to conceptually understand exactly what a CR question tests and how you should solve it and what you should focus on. Practicing problems is the next step.
Also, in SC you need to focus on various important error types and ensure that you double check your answer for consistency and logic (important components of the new SC questions)

I will recommend that you check out Veritas CR and SC books. Thereafter, the questions will make much more sense. You will end up analyzing faster and increasing your accuracy.
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Re: GMAT Troubles, advice please? [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2013, 12:15
Hi gmatpill!
I tried the GMAT prep tests as the last 2 tests before I took the exam but there was no correlation. My test was scheduled at 12:30 pm so I made sure I took the tests during the afternoon on weekends. While I was taking the exam, I felt that the quantitative was relatively easy and the verbal was not as hard as the practice tests that I took earlier. I did not consider the psychological aspects of the test when I took it. I will work more on that and replicate it during the practice exams.

hi VeritasPrepKarishma!
I used the Chili hot GMAT book for learning about the SC and CR rules. After I browsed through this website, I realized I am not using the correct books for studying the GMAT.
I have looked through the GMATclub website for the recommended books and I already have the the Manhattan GMAT for SC and Manhattan GMAT for CR. I am reviewing both of these books and take notes thoroughly before I take the next practice exam. I have also got the Kaplan premier book for more practice tests.

After I am finished reading the MGMAT books, I will start practicing 10 SC questions and 10 CR questions a day. For SC questions, I will have a time limit of 15 minutes and similarly I will use 20 minutes for CR questions. Once I am able to get all of the questions correct, I will start on the practice exams. For practicing problems, I also googled a 1000SC questions and I found a link where I can find a 1000 SC questions from actual GMAT tests. Is there something like that for CR questions? For me, the concepts are easy to understand for the verbal section but I cannot find many practice problems for them. I also found out there is a question bank in Manhattan GMAT websites so I am going to use that too. One of the mistakes I did in my previous studying habits was not keeping track of my mistakes and LEARN from them. This time I intend to take notes for each of the those questions which I missed and continue to work on it until I remember those mistakes and change them.

Thank you very much for your advice!

If you have any other advice on how I should continue to practice for SC and CR questions, please let me know. I will keep you posted on my results after the first practice exam.
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Re: GMAT Troubles, advice please? [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2013, 19:17
Hi Everyone!

I have finished reading the Manhattan books for SC and CR.

Now, I have started to take the practice problems in the 1000SC website ( for anyone else who wants to find this just google 1000SC and it is the first link.

I have been through this similar exercise before where I have practiced many SC questions and CR questions but when I took the GMAT, my verbal score remained the same. This time I am keeping track of my errors and ensuring that I learn from it. Is there anything else that I need to do to improve my confidence with SC & CR questions? Currently I have been practicing SC and CR questions and I have not been able to get consistent performances. For the CR questions, I make sure to read the chapter again before taking the questions to make sure that the concept is enforced before I start working on the practice problems.

My current resources for practice are:

- 1000 SC website
- OG12
- GMAT Verbal Review
- Kaplan Website (not started to use yet)


I also wanted some advice on time management. My biggest problem has been the time I spend at work. I understand I am supposed to spend 2 hours day during weekdays but some of the weekdays, I cannot because of work. On the other hand, I am able to spend more time during the weekend to make up for the time I could not study during the week. How does everyone else manage their time to study with an intense work schedule?

Thanks for the advice!
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Re: GMAT Troubles, advice please?   [#permalink] 21 Feb 2013, 19:17
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