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Good Enough for HBS 2+2? [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2013, 12:06
Hello,

I am interested in applying to the HBS (2+2 program) and Stanford (deferred admission). I am a college senior and will be applying in the next mouth for Round 1.

22 years old. Asian American female, US citizen.

Drexel University
5-year B.S. and M.S. in Biomedical Engineering
GPA 3.82

GMAT 750 Q49 V42, IR 8, AWA 6

I have done three co-ops (6 month internships) during my time at college:
1. chinese pharma company in shanghai - biologics assays
2. Merck - vaccine engineer
3. Johnson & Johnson - Lean, process improvement

leadership positions that I've had:
1. Vice president of my sorority at college
2. president of an overall Greek council that oversees many fraternities and sororities at college
3. founded (and is current president of) an engineering and science society at college
4. president of an intern society at Johnson and Johnson
5. membership director for local chapter of society of women engineers

Other info:
Studied abroad in London for a semesters and took non-engineering cultural enrichment courses
I have won multiple scholarships for my good academics/involvement on campus

Advantages:
I think I have a good GPA, STEM major, I have a lot of leadership from student clubs and I am very involved on campus. Good internships.

Disadvantages:
From a very average undergrad university
I feel like I'm missing that "spectacular" thing from my application - I don't have any amazing stories about how I dedicated my life for one cause / started my company / or did anything exceptionally amazing.



I would like an HONEST and REALISTIC evaluation please.

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATE!!!! Thank you!!!!
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Re: Good Enough for HBS 2+2? [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2013, 07:49
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Hi sheepykiyomi - you actually have the type of profile that could have a shot at 2+2. Stanford is a little harder but might also be a possibility. The GMAT and the GPA are both stellar and that's the first step in qualifying for 2+2. Great job on all the hard work you've put in! Drexel isn't that bad of a university, that's not an obstacle for you at all. The internships are what will matter a lot in this process. The HBS essay is of course super challenging, and you'll want to articulate why an MBA is the right step in your future, and what that future looks like. The Admissions Board will be interested to know your plans and how you feel 2+2 fits in, why it's important for you to do that particular program. We are feeling surprisingly optimistic for you though! You have clear evidence of leadership and you've gotten involved on campus - these are elements that can make a big difference in a successful 2+2 application. The internships too, it's unusual to have three of them.

We think you should go full steam ahead on everything!! And don't be tempted to slack off in this final year, your grades will matter a lot!!

Stanford deferred is also a possibility, and you may want to look into Yale Silver Scholars - in fact, that last one may make the most sense for you, given the healthcare focus to your profile (Yale is strong in that domain).

You have a real shot at these programs if you play your cards right.

Please let us know if we can help and GOOD LUCK!!

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Re: Good Enough for HBS 2+2? [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2013, 15:04
essaysnark wrote:
Hi sheepykiyomi - you actually have the type of profile that could have a shot at 2+2. Stanford is a little harder but might also be a possibility. The GMAT and the GPA are both stellar and that's the first step in qualifying for 2+2. Great job on all the hard work you've put in! Drexel isn't that bad of a university, that's not an obstacle for you at all. The internships are what will matter a lot in this process. The HBS essay is of course super challenging, and you'll want to articulate why an MBA is the right step in your future, and what that future looks like. The Admissions Board will be interested to know your plans and how you feel 2+2 fits in, why it's important for you to do that particular program. We are feeling surprisingly optimistic for you though! You have clear evidence of leadership and you've gotten involved on campus - these are elements that can make a big difference in a successful 2+2 application. The internships too, it's unusual to have three of them.

We think you should go full steam ahead on everything!! And don't be tempted to slack off in this final year, your grades will matter a lot!!

Stanford deferred is also a possibility, and you may want to look into Yale Silver Scholars - in fact, that last one may make the most sense for you, given the healthcare focus to your profile (Yale is strong in that domain).

You have a real shot at these programs if you play your cards right.

Please let us know if we can help and GOOD LUCK!!

EssaySnark



Thank you for your reply EssaySnark. Why do you say Stanford maybe be harder? I have also considered the Yale Silver Scholars program - but I am a little skeptical about going straight into my MBA. Even with the year of internship in the middle, I feel like I may have difficulties getting a really great job out of MBA because I will have so much less experience than my classmates. Also, I may "fit in" less with the class - which is a big thing I look for in a school. Yale SOM does not do any info sessions in my city and I have missed their recent online admission webinars, and there isn't another one before the round 1 deadlines. I'm a little bit lost on learning more about Yale Silver Scholars. I have more questions and may consider applying but I don't know where to do. The website seems to have relatively minimum info (just one page). Do you have any suggestions on this?

Also regarding the HBS essay. My main problem is that I don't know what I want to do in the future, and with that, I am kind of unsure how the MBA will fit into my career. I know I want an MBA because I want to be in that kind of environment where I can meet many motivated people and flourish and discuss new ideas ,etc ,etc. I don't know if Iwant to continue in healthcare post graduation... I am considering applying to a bunch of jobs in different fields and seeing what I get - how do I build this "unsureness / willing to explore anything attitude" into an essay that explains my desire to go to HBS?

Thanks!!!
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Re: Good Enough for HBS 2+2? [#permalink] New post 24 Aug 2013, 06:49
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Hey sheepykiyomi - sorry for the delay in replying, things are a little busy in Snarkville right now!! :-D

sheepykiyomi wrote:
Thank you for your reply EssaySnark. Why do you say Stanford maybe be harder?

Stanford is harder for everyone.


sheepykiyomi wrote:
I have also considered the Yale Silver Scholars program - but I am a little skeptical about going straight into my MBA. Even with the year of internship in the middle, I feel like I may have difficulties getting a really great job out of MBA because I will have so much less experience than my classmates. Also, I may "fit in" less with the class - which is a big thing I look for in a school.
The format with 2+2 and deferred at Stanford is different, but not so much that these issues are nonexistent with either of them. If you're worried about being too young or not being able to get a job due to lack of experience, those would be just as true with any of the schools we're discussing.


sheepykiyomi wrote:
Yale SOM does not do any info sessions in my city and I have missed their recent online admission webinars, and there isn't another one before the round 1 deadlines. I'm a little bit lost on learning more about Yale Silver Scholars. I have more questions and may consider applying but I don't know where to do. The website seems to have relatively minimum info (just one page). Do you have any suggestions on this?
Contact the school. They're happy to help with your questions, they're always the best resource.


sheepykiyomi wrote:
Also regarding the HBS essay. My main problem is that I don't know what I want to do in the future, and with that, I am kind of unsure how the MBA will fit into my career. I know I want an MBA because I want to be in that kind of environment where I can meet many motivated people and flourish and discuss new ideas ,etc ,etc. I don't know if Iwant to continue in healthcare post graduation... I am considering applying to a bunch of jobs in different fields and seeing what I get - how do I build this "unsureness / willing to explore anything attitude" into an essay that explains my desire to go to HBS?
You're going to have a tougher time pitching HBS for 2+2 if you don't know what you want to do, than if you went out into the workforce and then tried to get into Harvard through the standard MBA app later. We have a Career Goals App Accelerator which consists of a tutorial that explains what schools want to see in career goals, with guided exercises for how you can develop a good set of goals based on your current interests, with private, personalized feedback from EssaySnark on what you come up with. We don't usually recommend this for Harvard applicants because in general, Harvard isn't fixated on goals; they don't even have much in the way of questions around goals in the app. But it's a different reality for 2+2 applicants and you'll need to do more to show why the 2+2 path is right for you. So having some goals nailed down can help a lot in this case. They also matter for Stanford so you could benefit from going through that process with EssaySnark.

Hope that helps!!! Lots to think about, yes, but you're in a nice position based on what you've done to date.

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Re: Good Enough for HBS 2+2? [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2014, 16:25
essaysnark wrote:
Hey sheepykiyomi - sorry for the delay in replying, things are a little busy in Snarkville right now!! :-D

sheepykiyomi wrote:
Thank you for your reply EssaySnark. Why do you say Stanford maybe be harder?

Stanford is harder for everyone.


sheepykiyomi wrote:
I have also considered the Yale Silver Scholars program - but I am a little skeptical about going straight into my MBA. Even with the year of internship in the middle, I feel like I may have difficulties getting a really great job out of MBA because I will have so much less experience than my classmates. Also, I may "fit in" less with the class - which is a big thing I look for in a school.
The format with 2+2 and deferred at Stanford is different, but not so much that these issues are nonexistent with either of them. If you're worried about being too young or not being able to get a job due to lack of experience, those would be just as true with any of the schools we're discussing.


sheepykiyomi wrote:
Yale SOM does not do any info sessions in my city and I have missed their recent online admission webinars, and there isn't another one before the round 1 deadlines. I'm a little bit lost on learning more about Yale Silver Scholars. I have more questions and may consider applying but I don't know where to do. The website seems to have relatively minimum info (just one page). Do you have any suggestions on this?
Contact the school. They're happy to help with your questions, they're always the best resource.


sheepykiyomi wrote:
Also regarding the HBS essay. My main problem is that I don't know what I want to do in the future, and with that, I am kind of unsure how the MBA will fit into my career. I know I want an MBA because I want to be in that kind of environment where I can meet many motivated people and flourish and discuss new ideas ,etc ,etc. I don't know if Iwant to continue in healthcare post graduation... I am considering applying to a bunch of jobs in different fields and seeing what I get - how do I build this "unsureness / willing to explore anything attitude" into an essay that explains my desire to go to HBS?
You're going to have a tougher time pitching HBS for 2+2 if you don't know what you want to do, than if you went out into the workforce and then tried to get into Harvard through the standard MBA app later. We have a Career Goals App Accelerator which consists of a tutorial that explains what schools want to see in career goals, with guided exercises for how you can develop a good set of goals based on your current interests, with private, personalized feedback from EssaySnark on what you come up with. We don't usually recommend this for Harvard applicants because in general, Harvard isn't fixated on goals; they don't even have much in the way of questions around goals in the app. But it's a different reality for 2+2 applicants and you'll need to do more to show why the 2+2 path is right for you. So having some goals nailed down can help a lot in this case. They also matter for Stanford so you could benefit from going through that process with EssaySnark.

Hope that helps!!! Lots to think about, yes, but you're in a nice position based on what you've done to date.

EssaySnark



This is a bit late EssaySnark, but just wanted to say THANK YOU for all the past advice :) accepted !
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Re: Good Enough for HBS 2+2? [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2014, 09:07
Woo-hoo sheepykiyomi!!! Congratulations!!! Are you saying you got into HBS? That of course would be awesome - though all the schools that we discussed are also awesome. No matter what, you must've done something to impression the admissions team. Very cool. Thank you for circling back to let us know - exciting stuff!!!

(Apparently we now know the answer to your question posed in the title of this thread: YES! You're "good enough"!!!! :P )

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