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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 16:59
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I kind of have a feeling that they wait for R2 and R3 applications because a lot of those are the ones who would have been denied an admission into FT programs elsewhere (Kellogg, Booth, etc). So, they certainly don't want to get into a situation where they have admitted 1/3rd of the class in R1 and not have enough seats vacant for those "quality" FT rejected applicants.


I doubt that's really the case. The person who wants to go full time is going to apply to 5-10 schools and pick the best option out of what comes back. A part time commitment is a whole different animal. I have a feeling it's more along the lines of waiting for applicants that hadn't decided to apply last summer that want to start this fall.


It is not about the applicant, it is about the class composition.

Lets imagine they get 150 application in R1 say all of them are Engineers. What are they going to do? Are they going to assume there will be no better engineers applying later? or are they going to assume there will be no other "type" of application in other rounds?

The whole rounds deal is to get that class composition right by giving priorities to applicants where deserved.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:00
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Yes, thanks for sharing.

Did they express the following to you explicitly or is this your own assumption/interpretation?

" R1 waitlist obviously has a lead over R2 applicant who in turn has a lead over R3 applicant. "



Was told explicitly. Even if not told so, isn't it the fair way :)


Thanks. The fairness of it is debatable but it's good to know their process.

Now, I'm wondering about the extent of under-admission in R1. Do they give out 60 admits instead of the 80? Perhaps 40? 30? Yikes!
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:01
calculas wrote:
It is not about the applicant, it is about the class composition.

Lets imagine they get 150 application in R1 say all of them are Engineers. What are they going to do? Are they going to assume there will be no better engineers applying later? or are they going to assume there will be no other "type" of application in other rounds?

The whole rounds deal is to get that class composition right by giving priorities to applicants where deserved.


Yeah, I get that. My point is just that people applying to full time programs aren't really going to switch to a part time program later in the application season. They'd just apply to other full time programs. At that point they've already made the decision to quit their job, it's just a matter of where they go. I'm sure there are a few that switch to PT, but I doubt it's anywhere near a plurality.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:02
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Hi Guys,

If you dont get a call on Jan 31st, you are either waitlisted or denied.

Good luck.


Wait. Isn't it Feb 1st? I thought they make the phone calls on Feb 1st.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:03
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rajcooper wrote:
Yes, thanks for sharing.

Did they express the following to you explicitly or is this your own assumption/interpretation?

" R1 waitlist obviously has a lead over R2 applicant who in turn has a lead over R3 applicant. "



Was told explicitly. Even if not told so, isn't it the fair way :)


Thanks. The fairness of it is debatable but it's good to know their process.

Now, I'm wondering about the extent of under-admission in R1. Do they give out 60 admits instead of the 80? Perhaps 40? 30? Yikes!


Well, he's hoping an out of state consultant is unique enough for R1 at Haas.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:03
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calculas wrote:
Hi Guys,

If you dont get a call on Jan 31st, you are either waitlisted or denied.

Good luck.


Wait. Isn't it Feb 1st? I thought they make the phone calls on Feb 1st.


Last year they called admits a day before the deadline.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:04
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calculas wrote:
It is not about the applicant, it is about the class composition.

Lets imagine they get 150 application in R1 say all of them are Engineers. What are they going to do? Are they going to assume there will be no better engineers applying later? or are they going to assume there will be no other "type" of application in other rounds?

The whole rounds deal is to get that class composition right by giving priorities to applicants where deserved.


Yeah, I get that. My point is just that people applying to full time programs aren't really going to switch to a part time program later in the application season. They'd just apply to other full time programs. At that point they've already made the decision to quit their job, it's just a matter of where they go. I'm sure there are a few that switch to PT, but I doubt it's anywhere near a plurality.


I personally know a few of them who applied to Stanford, got dinged and are applying to Haas mainly because they don't want to move out of Bay Area! So, there are a few. Perhaps, not that many!
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:11
Yep, by this time next week - we'll know our fate.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:15
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I personally know a few of them who applied to Stanford, got dinged and are applying to Haas mainly because they don't want to move out of Bay Area! So, there are a few. Perhaps, not that many!


I suppose that makes sense if you don't want to leave the Bay Area and it may be easier getting in to the part time program
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:18
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I personally know a few of them who applied to Stanford, got dinged and are applying to Haas mainly because they don't want to move out of Bay Area! So, there are a few. Perhaps, not that many!


I wonder why they chose not to apply to Haas FT if they liked the bay area so much? R3 might still be open, I think. Convince them :lol:
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:19
That's because you can't apply to both FT and PT at Haas. :)

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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:23
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That's because you can't apply to both FT and PT at Haas. :)

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If they are applying to Stanford for FT, why not apply to Haas for FT and continue living in the Bay Area? Why do they want to ruin our chances for PT at Haas? :D
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:25
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That's because you can't apply to both FT and PT at Haas. :)

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If they are applying to Stanford for FT, why not apply to Haas for FT and continue living in the Bay Area? Why do they want to ruin our chances for PT at Haas? :D


12% admission FT, 44% part time. Much less competition with out of state candidates.

That said, you better have a pretty decent current job. The Peace Corps doesn't look as good for a PT admit.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:32
Yeah, but if you're shooting for the stars (stanford), shouldn't you have the confidence to at least cross the moon (Haas FT)? Just saying...although it doesn't really matter at this point.

I did't apply to Haas because it was easy to get into. Quite the opposite, actually.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:37
On a side note, does AWA score have any importance in the GMAT exam?
I don't see anyone talk about it. If it is not important, then why don't the GMAT guys get rid of it?
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 17:40
rajcooper wrote:
Yeah, but if you're shooting for the stars (stanford), shouldn't you have the confidence to at least cross the moon (Haas FT)? Just saying...although it doesn't really matter at this point.

I did't apply to Haas because it was easy to get into. Quite the opposite, actually.


Same here, but I understand the rationale.

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On a side note, does AWA score have any importance in the GMAT exam?
I don't see anyone talk about it. If it is not important, then why don't the GMAT guys get rid of it?


As long as you get above a 4.5, you're fine. It's a test to make sure you can write full english paragraphs, nothing more.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 18:25
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As long as you get above a 4.5, you're fine. It's a test to make sure you can write full english paragraphs, nothing more.


Can't schools judge that based on the essays? Or do they assume that essays can be written by someone else and not the applicant?
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 18:28
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As long as you get above a 4.5, you're fine. It's a test to make sure you can write full english paragraphs, nothing more.


Can't schools judge that based on the essays? Or do they assume that essays can be written by someone else and not the applicant?


There's nothing stopping someone from paying someone else to write their essays. Apparently it has been a problem in the past. Since the GMAT now takes your photo and supposedly makes it available to the school with your scores, it's a pretty easy way for them to match the two up.
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 18:34
packet82 wrote:
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As long as you get above a 4.5, you're fine. It's a test to make sure you can write full english paragraphs, nothing more.


Can't schools judge that based on the essays? Or do they assume that essays can be written by someone else and not the applicant?


There's nothing stopping someone from paying someone else to write their essays. Apparently it has been a problem in the past. Since the GMAT now takes your photo and supposedly makes it available to the school with your scores, it's a pretty easy way for them to match the two up.


I meant essays in the application. Do the schools think that essays in the application could be written by someone else.
So lets have people write essays as part of their GMAT exam (which hopefully cannot be hoodwinked)...
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Re: Haas (UC Berkeley) EWMBA 2013 - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 18:47
rajcooper wrote:
Yeah, but if you're shooting for the stars (stanford), shouldn't you have the confidence to at least cross the moon (Haas FT)? Just saying...although it doesn't really matter at this point.

I did't apply to Haas because it was easy to get into. Quite the opposite, actually.


If an applicant gets waitlisted, do they have to wait until the R3 decision deadline to know whether or not they will be admitted?
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