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05/12/09 LSAT PT7 CR1 - 19/25 LSAT PT7 CR2 - 20/25 LSAT PT7 RC - 22/27 DS1000 20/20, 12 mins DS1000 19/20, 15 mins 05/13/09 DS1000 19/20, 15 mins LSAT PT9 CR1 19/25 LSAT RC 24/27 LSAT PT9 CR2 20/25 DS1000 19/20, 10 mins 05/20/09 LSAT PT11 RC 26/27 Tuesday May 26 GMATPrep2 - 790 (51Q, 50V), Q-60mins, Verbal-60mins. Got 1 Verbal wrong (RC, blah) and 1 DS wrong although I disagree... I guess if a straight line is drawn you can assume it's a straight line. Wednesday May 27 Shitty day today, somebody smashed in the window and stole my business brief case and old notebook. PT52 - 106/107 (1 RC wrong) 800 51Q 50V Completed in 90 minutes instead of 150, without breaks Right after, no break, LSAT PT #24 RC, 24/27 got all correct except a passage at the end that was on fake art. Pretty good stamina, 107+27=134 questions in about 125 mins (<60s/q + RC passages). The ones I get wrong in the LSAT CR's are the formal logic ones, I just guess on those, some involve diagramming. But the strengthen/weaken/conclusion/assumption/except I all get correct. But I extrapolated my scores (skipped games) and am scoring 170-173 on the LSAT PTs, that's without answering the formal logic ones really. Don't know what else to do, I'm going to keep drilling LSAT CR/RC and PS/DS.
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wow .. what a score in practice tests. What are you waiting for then? go for the real test and beat the exam to death.
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That is really wonderful.... I think you should give it a shot
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I don't want to sound negative, but I have to comment on your Paper test scores. Paper tests are good for practice, especially for Verbal. Their math questions are not even easy compared to real deal recently - they are a joke. Even some beginners could easily obtain some superb scores (we are talking 770-780 here) so even 800 on the paper tests means nothing. They are good for practice but in o way they can be used as an indicator of ones future performance on GMAT. Since GMAT is adaptive test, only GMATprep could be used as a relativly reliable score indicator. Recently, there is oanother quant measurment tool - GMAT Focus - often disputed by numerous GMATclubbers, but one of my favorite tools, definitely. Again, it is nice that you practice with paper tests, they are excellent tool - much better than many other sources like Kaplan. Just don't pay too much attention on scores on PT - they know to act as fake self-confidance boosters.
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I disagree path finder, the Verbal on the PT is just as hard as the CAT, sometimes I would say even harder. There are more questions, and you have to be faster. Yes the Quant is a lot easier-- the DS at least, the problem solving on the CAT isn't that hard, it's the DS. Again there are more questions, and I use them to work on speed, that's my main focus. On the Quant if I'm not tired I can always get every single quant question correct, unless I assume too much. But my main focus is Verbal endurance, I'm pretty confident at getting a 51Q, 50Q in the worst case, but I want a 47V+. SC I get all correct, it's the RC I screw up on when I get tired, like last night-- that last passage from the LSAT CR was ridiculous, I couldn't comprehend anything. GMAT Focus... I've heard of it. It's not an actual CAT though-- how many tests are there?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are not going to score 790-800, but I think you can't draw a conclusion solely on a paper test score. Had you scored 790-800 on GMATprep that would have been different story (and I hope you will). Paper tests are not adaptive and can't be used as an indicator. Of course, if someone is already 800 scorer (and I'm positive you are close to that) he/she will take 800 on paper tests. On the other hand, there is no correlation between high scores on PT and real test. Only Gprep can be used as relativly reliable estimator.
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I believe I wrote GMATPrep1 on Thursday, 790 51/49. Did both sections very fast. 1 wrong in each again. I'm scoring 790-800 consistently on Prep/PTs, hence why I'm doing LSAT CR/RC, to drill even more. I also have to avoid trying to do things in my head, I notice I sometimes do the algebra in my head and get confused then have to restart. Writing things down is generally faster.
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LT PT#24 Answer/Time 1: B, 1:09 2: D, 1:52 3: B, 0:52 4: C, 1:00 5: parallel 6: C, 1:00 7: A, 1:20 8: E? 2m wrong (B) (formal) 9: C, 55s 10: E, 1:13 11: E, 1:09 12: C, 1:16 13: parallel 14: A, 1:20 15: A, 1m 16: A, 44s 17: B, 45s 18: E, 1:30s 19: E, 30s 20: B, 1:20 21: C, 2:20 wrong(A) (formal) 22: D, 1:15 23: E, 2:20 24: E, 30s 25: A, 1:15 21/23, 91%, 69s/q I hate those LSAT formal logic questions. Going to do a CR now
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LT PT25 RC Answer/Time read time: 2m45s 1: D,45s 2: B, 1m 3: A, 1m 4: D, 15s 5: B, 25s 6: E, 45s wrong(C) 3m read 7: D, 20s 8: C, 30s 9: B, 40s 10: A, 2m 11: C, 45s 12: C, 15s wrong(D) 13: D, 1m wrong(A) read time:3m 14: C, 20s 15: A, 30s 16: A,30s 17: E 20s 18: E, 15s 19: D, 45s wrong(C) 20: B, 1m 21: C, 18s read time:2m45s WTF? 22:D, 30s 23:A,2:30m 24:E, 45s 25:B 26:D,3m wrong(B,bah) total read time 31mins or so, under time Was distracted a few times, lost focus Didn't really 'get' the last passage, some f*cked up theory Exhausted. It's 4 in the morning, going to bed
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Hello Hades, Are you giving test on all 25 questions of each LSAT set? Or you are considering those pattern/type tested on GMAT?
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Hades wrote: I believe I wrote GMATPrep1 on Thursday, 790 51/49. Did both sections very fast. 1 wrong in each again. I'm scoring 790-800 consistently on Prep/PTs, hence why I'm doing LSAT CR/RC, to drill even more. I also have to avoid trying to do things in my head, I notice I sometimes do the algebra in my head and get confused then have to restart. Writing things down is generally faster. Wow, that's a serious indication of real GMAT success. 790 in GMATprep means A LOT - I'm sure you are going to score very high - 770+ or something. Well, maybe we have serious 800 test taker overhere.
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have u attended any prep course ?
its pretty good show on gmat prep .
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I skip the parallel reasoning ones on LSAT CR since they're meant to be solved by diagramming, not really relevant on the GMAT.
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This is pretty ridiculous. You might as well take the LSAT- just learn the logic games and you'll be 175+ for sure. JD/MBA would be a cinch, or you could just teach LSAT for Testmasters for $50/hr.
Anyway, this is just sick. Congrats.
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I concur - with the kind of scores you are achieving ... additional prep seems overkill bipolarbear wrote: This is pretty ridiculous. You might as well take the LSAT- just learn the logic games and you'll be 175+ for sure. JD/MBA would be a cinch, or you could just teach LSAT for Testmasters for $50/hr.
Anyway, this is just sick. Congrats.
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Posted a bunch of solutions-- I like this one digits-79063.html#p594650I might do a CR... lets see if this energy drink helps. I'm exhausted
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LSAT PT16 CR1 1B 42s 2A 1m 3D 1m 4E 55s 5c 1m 6D 55s 7 parallel 8E 45s 9C 35s 10E 1m50s 11E, 1:15 wrong (D) - i disagree with OA 12E, 1:30 wrong (B) wtf, oh well 13D 35s 14D 1:10s 15E 45s 16E 1:05 17B 1m 18A 55s 19 parallel 20C 45s (wrong E), i reviewed went too fast, didn't think about it 21A 1:15 22E 1:30 23D 1:30 24E 1:30 (wasn't 100% sure) 20/23, 61s/q I did have an energy drink, or it could have been that the questions were easier.
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LSAT PT16 CR2 1D 1m6 2B 35s 3B 25s 4C 35s 5D 45s 6C 30s 7A 45s 8B 35s 9A 55s 10A 1:05s 11 E 2m 12A 1m 13B 2m 14E 52s 15 parallel 16C 55s 17C wrong(tough! A -- argh, brain fried, couldn't think) 18D 2m Stopped here, tired 16/17, 57s/q
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How do you manage to track the times of individual questions?
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bipolarbear wrote: How do you manage to track the times of individual questions? Mentally
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