knightofdelta wrote:
essaysnark wrote:
knightofdelta wrote:
Now this is where it gets very interesting.
Here is the Harvard prompt: "You’re applying to Harvard Business School. We can see your resume, school transcripts, extra-curricular activities, awards, post-MBA career goals, test scores and what your recommenders have to say about you. What else would you like us to know as we consider your candidacy?"
All the stuff you are going to talk about in a job interview have all been noted by Harvard. "We have seen.... everything". Now they say "tell us something we don't already know". The only thing they don't already know is something really personal. It could be the personal motivating factor that made you achieve all those things in the first place. Now, that is really personal.
To quote Londoncalling1. He said: "I also completely rethought my essays and went for something a lot more personal - something that was easier with six previous applications under my belt and all the introspection that implies."
Obviously he was not that personal in his previous attempt but he went "for something more personal" in his essays and he got into HBS.
So, no I disagree with when you say "As a very general statement, HBS doesn't want to see overly personal content in their apps".
We're just reporting on what we have heard Dee Leopold specifically say, combined with our experiences over many many years of helping Harvard applicants.
There's plenty that can be discussed in an essay that still fits the guidelines we're talking about and goes above/beyond what's in the rest of the application assets. And there's always exceptions.
afabmp wrote:
ES - this isn't an attempt to 'call you out,' but genuinely curious what you've heard/read from Ms. Leopold that would lead you to your conclusions?
Let me take a shot at this conundrum. Now, no one says you should tell Harvard "I had cancer, and I survived it. Because of that Harvard should admit me". Maybe that is what ES is saying. That will not work. Maybe this will work: "I was promoted three times in one year, therefore I am awesome. Harvard admit me". I doubt this will work either, and it is purely professional.
Let's try this: "I fought cancer, and I won. I learned perseverance and tenacity. I translated this into my work and I was promoted three times in one year. I want to go to Harvard to achieve greater things such as investing in cancer research". Now, that is more likely to work. This is personal stuff. Really personal.
Caveat: I am not an adcom member, neither am I an admitted candidate. I am just someone who is trying to get into HBS as a Round 2 applicant.
Reasonable interpretations, I guess I'm just vexed that some is arguing that the director of admissions has laid out parameters of ought and ought not wrt how 'personal' stories are.
For me, I considered my resume, letters of rec, etc., to function as sort of data points, like a connect-a-dot picture of myself. The essay, then, was simply the line--the context in which I wanted the admissions committee to view those facts, with new details included where appropriate.
It's not a normal "optional essay," i.e., not "tell us anything we missed" like other schools, where you'd discuss gpa, etc., so I don't think mentioning facts available elsewhere is verboten, at least in so far as they're necessary to weave the tapestry of your story.
Of course, I'm sure people have gotten in with any one of these approaches, so I suppose it's a matter of what works best for you, coupled with a skillful execution.