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Hi VeritasPrepKarishma ,

I took my first mock test today after preparing only some quant topics(number properties,arithmetic,algebra,geometry) for two weeks and scored a 730.My score breakup was 49Q,41V(68% correct on both). While verbal has always been my strong forte, i am not so comfortable with math apart from these topics. I have not even touched Probability,Coordinate geometry,Combinatorics,inequalities etc. I was afraid of getting a 30 on quant and this is a SHOCKER to say the least. I have made strategic guesses on 2-3 quant questions about which i had no clue . What should i interpret this score as?Am i certain ( atleast if nothing else goes phenomenally wrong on the D-day) of going over 650 at least?I should prepare accordingly.

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Looks like you have quite decent fundamentals. Cracking 650 certainly seems to be on the cards. Go through rest of the Quant topics too since you will likely see questions from them. Often, what we call guessing or intuition involves a far more logical process our mind goes through (but we don't consciously analyze) before selecting the appropriate answer. Review your fundamentals and that should make you feel much more confident with your Quant too.
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I gave the Veritas Prep free test today and got a 590(Q43,V29). I am very surprised to see the accuracy levels in verbal since I got 29 correct and 12 incorrect and in quant I got 23 correct and 14 incorrect. I also found the difficulty level to be easy in both quant and verbal.

I have a serious concern with 29 correct qs. and the overall verbal score to be just V29. Would appreciate if experts(@VeritasPrepKarishma) on this forum could assist here. What should be the next course of action for me? I am still preparing and half way through it. I plan to take the exam in August end this year.


The score depends on a number of factors - number of correct/incorrect questions is only one of them. Many other factors such as the difficulty level of the question, the weightage of each question etc decide how your score will go. Let me give you an example -
You know that in your actual test, many questions are experimental. Now, for argument's sake, say you got 12 experimental questions (definitely possible) and you got 10 of them correct. So of the questions that actually count, you got 19 correct and 10 incorrect. Now V29 certainly seems more reasonable, right?
The point is that the algorithm works on a complex set of values and hence, what the eye tells you may not always be correct. In fact, we came across a situation recently in which a student got exactly the same score on two tests a week apart though the number of correct/incorrect questions on them were quite different. The student raised concerns and a detailed analysis from our side showed the things that played a role in deciding the score. The software is smart enough to pinpoint the actual ability level so there is no point in second guessing it.

You need to figure out the type of questions in which you are making most mistakes and put in extra work in those. You certainly have enough time, so you should be able to make a big difference. Take a practice test every two weeks and fine tune your strategy.
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I gave the Veritas Prep free test today and got a 590(Q43,V29). I am very surprised to see the accuracy levels in verbal since I got 29 correct and 12 incorrect and in quant I got 23 correct and 14 incorrect. I also found the difficulty level to be easy in both quant and verbal.

I have a serious concern with 29 correct qs. and the overall verbal score to be just V29. Would appreciate if experts(@VeritasPrepKarishma) on this forum could assist here. What should be the next course of action for me? I am still preparing and half way through it. I plan to take the exam in August end this year.



Check this post that Brian and Scott have written to help you and others understand the complexity of the Item Response Theory used by the scoring algorithm:
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2016/06 ... ems-wrong/
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Thanks VeritasPrepKarishma for sharing the article. It clarified a lot of doubts. But please let me know if my understanding is correct here. So, can we infer from this article or even based on general reading on GMAT Club that the student's motive should be to just get the accuracy as high as possible especially on the easy/medium questions and obviously try to get the tough question correctly in order to raise the testing bar. Also, not to make mistakes on the easy questions since the exam would penalize more if we get an easy question incorrectly.


How the exam values your performance on a particular question depends on its A-parameter which you do not know. The difficulty level (in simplistic terms) of an item is measured by the B-parameter which, again you do not know. What is easy for you may be hard for someone else. So how do you arrive at such conclusions as "not to make mistakes on the easy questions since the exam would penalize more"?
There is only one conclusion to be made, in my opinion - let the software do its job; you do your job i.e. give each and every question your best and pace yourself through out the test. Ensure that you are not making any silly mistakes and do not spend more than 2-3 minutes on any question.
If you have got your basics right, you will see it in the result!
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Welcome to GMAT Club!

I would not get too concerned as you have a proven track record with the GMAT prep, which is the most accurate indicator. I have not seen Veritas scores for a little while, so may take a bit of time to find somebody in the same boat...


thanks for your reply/welcome!!

hopefully i will hear something from others who have taken the Veritas GMAT simulated tests though it seems a bit new too so maybe thats why not many have tried it out...
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Took the Veritas GMAT simulated CAT #1 test yesterday

610 34V/41Q

It's online, nothing to download...

Interface was okay, very white background, you can adjust the font size, has a timer that counts down at the top left corner and the problem number you are on at the top right corner

Overall Thoughts

-felt that the Math was a bit too easy, I've missed many more on MGMAT GMAT tests and scored higher on the Math section
-don't recall any exponent problems which i was surprised about
-data sufficiency problems didn't seem challenging enough
-Verbal seemed the most off
-near the tail end of my Verbal, i think i had about 7-8 SC problems straight which is unusual right?
-also the RC passages were very difficult to read, not in a challenging way but the subject matters were also off...philosophy and ethical issues...i didn't have a science RC passage

I think I'll stick to the MGMAT and GMAT Prep ones for now and if I run out will hit up the Kaplan 2009 CD for more testing...and also work on OG problems for math and verbal since I know verbal is the hardest to replicate questions on...
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Thanks for the feedback - i have added it the all-gmat-cat-practice-tests-links-prices-reviews-77460.html thread

And here: https://gmatclub.com/reviews/?fl=menu
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Hi!

This is my first time posting, and I tried VEritas practice test and as I agreet with casnoopy's overview of the test.

calsnoopy: You may think I'm making this up, but I've been getting extremely similar grades as yours! Even the actual test's score! It's really frustrating to get a score way different from the scores you've been getting on the practice tests. Trust me, I know it... :wink:

So are you attending any prep currently? I'm planning to take a crash course, as I'm taking another test next month. Not sure which one would be worth the bang. I was planning to take the MGMAT, but it seems that I have to take the private tutoring, as they don't have any courses for such short period of time.

So how 's studying going? Did u decide to take the Veritas course?
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hi,

I just took the veritas free test and got 760 (Q51,V46) .. i think it's quite accurate .. :)

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I just took the veritas free test and got 760 (Q51,V46) .. i think it's quite accurate .. :)


Great score buddy :) .........I got 100 less :( 660(Q47,V37) ........

I got 49-50 in Quant in every test simulator I have tried till now ...think something is wrong with the scoring algorithm ......

Verbal questions also were easy compared to others (Kaplan, Princeton Review) ......but ultimately my scores didn't improve ;)
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I just took the veritas free test and got 760 (Q51,V46) .. i think it's quite accurate .. :)


Great score buddy :) .........I got 100 less :( 660(Q47,V37) ........

I got 49-50 in Quant in every test simulator I have tried till now ...think something is wrong with the scoring algorithm ......

Verbal questions also were easy compared to others (Kaplan, Princeton Review) ......but ultimately my scores didn't improve ;)


Thnx Vudsri ... just took the actual GMAT yesterday and got a score of 740 (Q50,V40) .. So, it's slightly less than the veritas test .. even from my experience i felt that veritas test was a bit easier than the actual GMAT .. however,GMATprep was the most accurate indicator (I got exactly 740 on GMATprep also) ... so,maybe you should take a GMATprep test and rely on that rather than on any other test,and if it's slightly less than the veritas score,you can be doubly sure about the accuracy of the GMATprep score :)


On other hand, may be my veritas score is an anomaly ... dunno
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Thnx Vudsri ... just took the actual GMAT yesterday and got a score of 740 (Q50,V40) .. So, it's slightly less than the veritas test .. even from my experience i felt that veritas test was a bit easier than the actual GMAT .. however,GMATprep was the most accurate indicator (I got exactly 740 on GMATprep also) ... so,maybe you should take a GMATprep test and rely on that rather than on any other test,and if it's slightly less than the veritas score,you can be doubly sure about the accuracy of the GMATprep score :)


Am a little sorry for u not scoring 760 in actual GMAT but still happy that you got 740 (thats not bad either ) Congrats...........

Ya true we can't rely on any of these Test Simulators.....GMAT Prep is the closest approximation ........
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2/11/10 Paper Test 14 660 37V/45Q

2/17/10 Paper Test 31 650 36V/44Q

2/22/10 Manhattan GMAT CAT#6 690 39V/45Q

2/24/10 Paper Test 28 670 38V/44Q

3/2/10 Paper Test 42 680 42V/42Q

3/6/10 GMAT Prep #1 690 40V/44Q

3/13/10 GMAT Prep #2 670 38V/44Q


AND THEN

March 15th, 2010: GMAT 560 36V/32Q
I was stunned by this setback, especially such a huge drop in math



Sorry for what happened with you .......

But one question how are you able to scale your scores on Paper GMAT ???
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Hi all,

My first post on GMAT Club (I think :)). I took the GMAT in 2006 and score 660. Don't remember the scaled scores. I'm taking it again next Saturday (August 14) and here are my recent practice test scores:

1st GMAT attempt - 2006 - 660
Test 1 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 630
Test 2 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 540
Test 3 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 720
Test 4 - GMAT Prep 1 - 660
Test 5 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 680
Test 6 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 630
Test 7 - Veritas Prep - GMAT Simulator - 570
Test 8 - Veritas Prep - GMAT Simulator - 630
Test 9 - Veritas Prep - GMAT Simulator - 650

GMAT Simulator quant section is definitely easier but verbal section is way tougher, in my opinion. I was average scaled score of 36 in Quant - and in my first GMAT Simulator test, I started at 40 scaled score in Quant. Au contraire, my lowest verbal scaled score prior to GMAT Simulator had been 40 -- and I started with a scaled score of 26 with this test.

To sum it up -- verbal: tougher, quant: easier. Having said that, these tests are giving me confidence and making me work better under pressure. I'm also solving a lot of problems (even though a level easier than the actual GMAT). Hoping that all this practice will help me next week in my 2nd stab at the GMAT!

Hope this helps. Will be happy to provide more info.
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I just took Veritas and scored 650 only(Q49, V34). Quants was way too easy, I got only 6 wrong and the first 15 correct, still it scored me only 49. Verbal was ok, but RC first passage was very tough and I ended up getting only 34. Can anyone let me know how Veritas verbal fair compared to the real one"?
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I just took the Veritas Free CAT Test and have some observations. Would anyone concur / disagree

- Quant seem's too easy - I scored a 51. No question seemed like a 750 question. Much in contrast with the MGMAT Tests.

- The order of questions in Verbal seemed quite off. A string of SC questions. All three Social RC's (Ugh). No science passage.

Scored a 660 (Q-51, V-32). How close is this to real GMAT? Any opinions?
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