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2 days back I wrote the free practice test of veritas prep and scored a total of 760 (Q50, V44) with 13 ques wrong in quants and 13 ques wrong in verbal. Should I go ahead and buy Veritas Prep practice tests or are there even better tests available in the market?


H Kartik,

I would caution you against trying to judge your performance based on the number of question you got right or wrong. Remember that it's an adaptive test, and if the system is correctly tracking your ability level, then it should be giving you many questions that are right around your ability level (meaning that you may get plenty of them wrong). If you're getting most questions right, then the system isn't giving you hard enough questions!

We wrote an in-depth blog post about this a little while ago:

http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/07 ... ice-tests/

Good luck in your studies!

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Hey, just coming out of a Free Simulator from VeritasPrep. The test returned me a 730 (49 Quant and 42 verbal). On the percentile scale quant reached a sombre 83 and verbal an inspiring 93, but my dreams of pushing for a score in excess of 760 remain distant. My performace on SC and DS could easily be termed dismal! :-(
Is there something specific that I could do to actually achieve the 760+ that I so badly hope for?
Any advice would be hugely appreciated!
PS I have scored a 720 on MGmat free simulator too and it's heart-breaking to not inch past 750.


I understand your desire to score in the 99%ile but take heart from the fact that 730 is not very different from 760 as far as the adcom is concerned. You seem to be on your way to above 80/80 which is perfectly good for most schools. Also, there is a good chance that you might actually score 750+ in the test - it all depends on whether you keep your wits during the test. A difference of 30-40 points in your score is normal especially at the higher end of the range since there are fewer people there and hence data is more scarce.

In SC, try to be as logical as you can be. Focus on finding a clear, concise and sensible sentence. You will probably see more high level questions in SC too which means there will be lot of focus on accuracy in meaning - keep that in mind.

As for DS, if you are good at PS, why the issues in DS? Just remember that at the end of the day, DS is only two PS questions in 1. It does take more time but the fundamentals are exactly the same.
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Hi All,

I have taken GMAT twice in the past 4 months and my third one is in exactly three weeks and I would really appreciate your thoughts on how to improve my score, given that my Veritas scores have been quite strong recently. So here is the situation:

Before the first exam:

GMATprep1: 690 (Q49, V36)
GMATprep2: 710 (Q49, V38)
GMATprep3: 740 (Q50, V40)
GMATprep4: 750 (Q50, V41)

First Actual Take in Early December: 690 (Q49, V34)

Took a bunch of MGMAT: all around 680-710

Second GMAT take on early Jan: 710 (Q50, V36)

I have taken 2 Veritas prep over the past two weeks:
1- 750 (Q51,V42)
2- 760 (Q51,V43)

I am now confident that I can score 50-51 on quant, but my Verbal varies significantly from test to test...and my actual verbal scores are the lowest in any exam i have ever taken! (even MGMT)

I also have to say that I was under a lot pressure during the first test and made many strategic mistakes (not sleeping enough, bad food etc.). during the second exam, take fire alarm went off (near the end of quant) and we had to leave the building for around 20-30 minutes! they added the time back though.

My main problem here is that my verbal score is consistently lower than any prep test, and I really need to know what to expect from my real score! I am confident that i can score 50-51 in my quant, but its the bloody verbal that keeps my score down! Do you think my latest veritas CATs are a good reflection of my verbal? and what else can i do over the next three weeks to improve it!

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Your verbal score is much more affected by your state of mind than your Quant score. Your comprehension suffers a lot when you are anxious. Therefore, it is harder to get an accurate reading on Verbal scores. Also, it depends a lot more on your areas of interest. Say, if in the beginning of the test, you get an RC on Archaeology - your passion, you will run through it and answer all the questions within 3-4 mins. This boosts your confidence and gives you extra time so you stick to your plan and move ahead accordingly. On the other hand, say you get an RC on Economics of exactly the same difficulty level. You don't get Economics, spend 8 mins answering the questions and this disrupts the rest of the section for you. Your score in the two tests could be very different.
That is the treason you are suggested to read as much as possible and from various different topics. Also, if you take more practice tests, you are likely to come across both kind of situations and would know how to handle them in the actual test. Mind you - it is important to stick to the plan and not get ruffled by a setback. If you do that, you should be able to score close to your practice test scores.
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Hi VeritasPrepKarishma ,

I took my first mock test today after preparing only some quant topics(number properties,arithmetic,algebra,geometry) for two weeks and scored a 730.My score breakup was 49Q,41V(68% correct on both). While verbal has always been my strong forte, i am not so comfortable with math apart from these topics. I have not even touched Probability,Coordinate geometry,Combinatorics,inequalities etc. I was afraid of getting a 30 on quant and this is a SHOCKER to say the least. I have made strategic guesses on 2-3 quant questions about which i had no clue . What should i interpret this score as?Am i certain ( atleast if nothing else goes phenomenally wrong on the D-day) of going over 650 at least?I should prepare accordingly.

Thanks for your time :) and efforts!

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Looks like you have quite decent fundamentals. Cracking 650 certainly seems to be on the cards. Go through rest of the Quant topics too since you will likely see questions from them. Often, what we call guessing or intuition involves a far more logical process our mind goes through (but we don't consciously analyze) before selecting the appropriate answer. Review your fundamentals and that should make you feel much more confident with your Quant too.
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I gave the Veritas Prep free test today and got a 590(Q43,V29). I am very surprised to see the accuracy levels in verbal since I got 29 correct and 12 incorrect and in quant I got 23 correct and 14 incorrect. I also found the difficulty level to be easy in both quant and verbal.

I have a serious concern with 29 correct qs. and the overall verbal score to be just V29. Would appreciate if experts(@VeritasPrepKarishma) on this forum could assist here. What should be the next course of action for me? I am still preparing and half way through it. I plan to take the exam in August end this year.


The score depends on a number of factors - number of correct/incorrect questions is only one of them. Many other factors such as the difficulty level of the question, the weightage of each question etc decide how your score will go. Let me give you an example -
You know that in your actual test, many questions are experimental. Now, for argument's sake, say you got 12 experimental questions (definitely possible) and you got 10 of them correct. So of the questions that actually count, you got 19 correct and 10 incorrect. Now V29 certainly seems more reasonable, right?
The point is that the algorithm works on a complex set of values and hence, what the eye tells you may not always be correct. In fact, we came across a situation recently in which a student got exactly the same score on two tests a week apart though the number of correct/incorrect questions on them were quite different. The student raised concerns and a detailed analysis from our side showed the things that played a role in deciding the score. The software is smart enough to pinpoint the actual ability level so there is no point in second guessing it.

You need to figure out the type of questions in which you are making most mistakes and put in extra work in those. You certainly have enough time, so you should be able to make a big difference. Take a practice test every two weeks and fine tune your strategy.
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I gave the Veritas Prep free test today and got a 590(Q43,V29). I am very surprised to see the accuracy levels in verbal since I got 29 correct and 12 incorrect and in quant I got 23 correct and 14 incorrect. I also found the difficulty level to be easy in both quant and verbal.

I have a serious concern with 29 correct qs. and the overall verbal score to be just V29. Would appreciate if experts(@VeritasPrepKarishma) on this forum could assist here. What should be the next course of action for me? I am still preparing and half way through it. I plan to take the exam in August end this year.



Check this post that Brian and Scott have written to help you and others understand the complexity of the Item Response Theory used by the scoring algorithm:
http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2016/06 ... ems-wrong/
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Thanks VeritasPrepKarishma for sharing the article. It clarified a lot of doubts. But please let me know if my understanding is correct here. So, can we infer from this article or even based on general reading on GMAT Club that the student's motive should be to just get the accuracy as high as possible especially on the easy/medium questions and obviously try to get the tough question correctly in order to raise the testing bar. Also, not to make mistakes on the easy questions since the exam would penalize more if we get an easy question incorrectly.


How the exam values your performance on a particular question depends on its A-parameter which you do not know. The difficulty level (in simplistic terms) of an item is measured by the B-parameter which, again you do not know. What is easy for you may be hard for someone else. So how do you arrive at such conclusions as "not to make mistakes on the easy questions since the exam would penalize more"?
There is only one conclusion to be made, in my opinion - let the software do its job; you do your job i.e. give each and every question your best and pace yourself through out the test. Ensure that you are not making any silly mistakes and do not spend more than 2-3 minutes on any question.
If you have got your basics right, you will see it in the result!
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I would not get too concerned as you have a proven track record with the GMAT prep, which is the most accurate indicator. I have not seen Veritas scores for a little while, so may take a bit of time to find somebody in the same boat...


thanks for your reply/welcome!!

hopefully i will hear something from others who have taken the Veritas GMAT simulated tests though it seems a bit new too so maybe thats why not many have tried it out...
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Took the Veritas GMAT simulated CAT #1 test yesterday

610 34V/41Q

It's online, nothing to download...

Interface was okay, very white background, you can adjust the font size, has a timer that counts down at the top left corner and the problem number you are on at the top right corner

Overall Thoughts

-felt that the Math was a bit too easy, I've missed many more on MGMAT GMAT tests and scored higher on the Math section
-don't recall any exponent problems which i was surprised about
-data sufficiency problems didn't seem challenging enough
-Verbal seemed the most off
-near the tail end of my Verbal, i think i had about 7-8 SC problems straight which is unusual right?
-also the RC passages were very difficult to read, not in a challenging way but the subject matters were also off...philosophy and ethical issues...i didn't have a science RC passage

I think I'll stick to the MGMAT and GMAT Prep ones for now and if I run out will hit up the Kaplan 2009 CD for more testing...and also work on OG problems for math and verbal since I know verbal is the hardest to replicate questions on...
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Hi!

This is my first time posting, and I tried VEritas practice test and as I agreet with casnoopy's overview of the test.

calsnoopy: You may think I'm making this up, but I've been getting extremely similar grades as yours! Even the actual test's score! It's really frustrating to get a score way different from the scores you've been getting on the practice tests. Trust me, I know it... :wink:

So are you attending any prep currently? I'm planning to take a crash course, as I'm taking another test next month. Not sure which one would be worth the bang. I was planning to take the MGMAT, but it seems that I have to take the private tutoring, as they don't have any courses for such short period of time.

So how 's studying going? Did u decide to take the Veritas course?
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I just took the veritas free test and got 760 (Q51,V46) .. i think it's quite accurate .. :)

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Q49 V42 but got only 690
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Also curious if anyone else has had experiences with Veritas Prep that they would like to share...and how accurate the Veritas Prep's GMAT Simulator CAT exams are???

I am taking my first GMAT practice test since my March 15th disaster...doing it on the Veritas Prep GMAT Simulator CAT exam #1 but would like to know how other people thought about the test itself and how it compared with their experiences in MGMAT and GMAT Prep etc :)


Hello!

We don't deliberately design the tests to be harder than the official GMAT (we believe the practice tests should be as close to the real deal as possible), but, anecdotally, our students report that they tend to do 20-30 points better on the official GMAT. That difference seems to be driven more by verbal than quant. So, I'm being a little fast and loose with the numbers now, but I would say that, if the total score difference is 30 points, maybe 10 points are coming from Quant and 20 from Verbal. (That's an average across thousands of students.)

Again, we do aim to make our practice tests as close to the real test as possible, and we make adjustments to them frequently. But, I'd say that they tend to be slightly harder than the real test, on average.

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very good to know! thank you
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I just took the veritas free test and got 760 (Q51,V46) .. i think it's quite accurate .. :)


Great score buddy :) .........I got 100 less :( 660(Q47,V37) ........

I got 49-50 in Quant in every test simulator I have tried till now ...think something is wrong with the scoring algorithm ......

Verbal questions also were easy compared to others (Kaplan, Princeton Review) ......but ultimately my scores didn't improve ;)
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I just took the veritas free test and got 760 (Q51,V46) .. i think it's quite accurate .. :)


Great score buddy :) .........I got 100 less :( 660(Q47,V37) ........

I got 49-50 in Quant in every test simulator I have tried till now ...think something is wrong with the scoring algorithm ......

Verbal questions also were easy compared to others (Kaplan, Princeton Review) ......but ultimately my scores didn't improve ;)


Thnx Vudsri ... just took the actual GMAT yesterday and got a score of 740 (Q50,V40) .. So, it's slightly less than the veritas test .. even from my experience i felt that veritas test was a bit easier than the actual GMAT .. however,GMATprep was the most accurate indicator (I got exactly 740 on GMATprep also) ... so,maybe you should take a GMATprep test and rely on that rather than on any other test,and if it's slightly less than the veritas score,you can be doubly sure about the accuracy of the GMATprep score :)


On other hand, may be my veritas score is an anomaly ... dunno
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Thnx Vudsri ... just took the actual GMAT yesterday and got a score of 740 (Q50,V40) .. So, it's slightly less than the veritas test .. even from my experience i felt that veritas test was a bit easier than the actual GMAT .. however,GMATprep was the most accurate indicator (I got exactly 740 on GMATprep also) ... so,maybe you should take a GMATprep test and rely on that rather than on any other test,and if it's slightly less than the veritas score,you can be doubly sure about the accuracy of the GMATprep score :)


Am a little sorry for u not scoring 760 in actual GMAT but still happy that you got 740 (thats not bad either ) Congrats...........

Ya true we can't rely on any of these Test Simulators.....GMAT Prep is the closest approximation ........
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2/11/10 Paper Test 14 660 37V/45Q

2/17/10 Paper Test 31 650 36V/44Q

2/22/10 Manhattan GMAT CAT#6 690 39V/45Q

2/24/10 Paper Test 28 670 38V/44Q

3/2/10 Paper Test 42 680 42V/42Q

3/6/10 GMAT Prep #1 690 40V/44Q

3/13/10 GMAT Prep #2 670 38V/44Q


AND THEN

March 15th, 2010: GMAT 560 36V/32Q
I was stunned by this setback, especially such a huge drop in math



Sorry for what happened with you .......

But one question how are you able to scale your scores on Paper GMAT ???
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Hi all,

My first post on GMAT Club (I think :)). I took the GMAT in 2006 and score 660. Don't remember the scaled scores. I'm taking it again next Saturday (August 14) and here are my recent practice test scores:

1st GMAT attempt - 2006 - 660
Test 1 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 630
Test 2 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 540
Test 3 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 720
Test 4 - GMAT Prep 1 - 660
Test 5 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 680
Test 6 - Veritas Prep - 800 Score - 630
Test 7 - Veritas Prep - GMAT Simulator - 570
Test 8 - Veritas Prep - GMAT Simulator - 630
Test 9 - Veritas Prep - GMAT Simulator - 650

GMAT Simulator quant section is definitely easier but verbal section is way tougher, in my opinion. I was average scaled score of 36 in Quant - and in my first GMAT Simulator test, I started at 40 scaled score in Quant. Au contraire, my lowest verbal scaled score prior to GMAT Simulator had been 40 -- and I started with a scaled score of 26 with this test.

To sum it up -- verbal: tougher, quant: easier. Having said that, these tests are giving me confidence and making me work better under pressure. I'm also solving a lot of problems (even though a level easier than the actual GMAT). Hoping that all this practice will help me next week in my 2nd stab at the GMAT!

Hope this helps. Will be happy to provide more info.
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I just took Veritas and scored 650 only(Q49, V34). Quants was way too easy, I got only 6 wrong and the first 15 correct, still it scored me only 49. Verbal was ok, but RC first passage was very tough and I ended up getting only 34. Can anyone let me know how Veritas verbal fair compared to the real one"?
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