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# Having a hard time with the hard OG problems in CR

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02 Sep 2013, 12:07
Hey guys, Im doing really well in the OG questions in CR up to about number 80, almost 95% correct but after that when I hit the hard problems I go down to about 50% correct and it is really pissing me off to loose such accuracy so quickly.

Its obvious that I need more practice with tougher questions, but aside from the OG where can I find a bank of questions that focus on JUST the hard 700-800 level questions. I know that GMATclub has a question bank and wanted to know what people thought about taking that route to get more practice questions.

I've done the MGMAT questions so that resource is out.

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Hey guys, Im doing really well in the OG questions in CR up to about number 80, almost 95% correct but after that when I hit the hard problems I go down to about 50% correct and it is really pissing me off to loose such accuracy so quickly.

Its obvious that I need more practice with tougher questions, but aside from the OG where can I find a bank of questions that focus on JUST the hard 700-800 level questions. I know that GMATclub has a question bank and wanted to know what people thought about taking that route to get more practice questions.

I've done the MGMAT questions so that resource is out.

Thanks guys

gmatman13,

Here's the exact resource you are looking for: http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... -questions

--a bank of questions. If you want just the hard ones, then just look at the ones that show less than 50% of people getting them correct. There are plenty of challenge questions here - all complete with visual diagram solutions and video solutions.
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Hey guys, Im doing really well in the OG questions in CR up to about number 80, almost 95% correct but after that when I hit the hard problems I go down to about 50% correct and it is really pissing me off to loose such accuracy so quickly.

Its obvious that I need more practice with tougher questions, but aside from the OG where can I find a bank of questions that focus on JUST the hard 700-800 level questions. I know that GMATclub has a question bank and wanted to know what people thought about taking that route to get more practice questions.

I've done the MGMAT questions so that resource is out.

Thanks guys

You seem to be falling for a very common trap.

Low accuracy/not able to solve questions ----> Need more questions to practice

You may need more practice but that is a secondary requirement. Your primary requirement is understanding "WHY" your accuracy falls so drastically. "Do difficult questions require a much nuanced understanding of questions?" "You are good at basic concepts but not really the subtle understandings. " "Do you get confused between two choices in difficult questions and end up selecting the wrong one 50% of the time?"

What is the reason? You need to find that out. Unless you do that, all the additional practice you do will only give you satisfaction, not accuracy.

Thanks,
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05 Sep 2013, 17:07
Hey thanks guys for your responses.

What I've noticed is that yes I get down to two correct choices in the hard problems and end up choosing the wrong choice.

I've tried to re-do all the hard problems in the OG to force myself to think critically at the higher levels, and I really dont seem to be detecting a reason why I choose the wrong answer half the time.
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05 Sep 2013, 22:01
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gmatman13 wrote:
Hey guys, Im doing really well in the OG questions in CR up to about number 80, almost 95% correct but after that when I hit the hard problems I go down to about 50% correct and it is really pissing me off to loose such accuracy so quickly.

Its obvious that I need more practice with tougher questions, but aside from the OG where can I find a bank of questions that focus on JUST the hard 700-800 level questions. I know that GMATclub has a question bank and wanted to know what people thought about taking that route to get more practice questions.

I've done the MGMAT questions so that resource is out.

Thanks guys

You seem to be falling for a very common trap.

Low accuracy/not able to solve questions ----> Need more questions to practice

You may need more practice but that is a secondary requirement. Your primary requirement is understanding "WHY" your accuracy falls so drastically. "Do difficult questions require a much nuanced understanding of questions?" "You are good at basic concepts but not really the subtle understandings. " "Do you get confused between two choices in difficult questions and end up selecting the wrong one 50% of the time?"

What is the reason? You need to find that out. Unless you do that, all the additional practice you do will only give you satisfaction, not accuracy.

Thanks,
Chiranjeev

Hi Chiranjeev,
Sort of same problem for me also...
I'd say it's a mixed of above 3 reasons as stated by you...with a 20-30-50 ratio probably. So,the last one is more prevalent I think in my case.

It'd be really helpful if you could suggest some remedies to mitigate these weaknesses in least possible time.

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gmatman13 wrote:
Hey guys, Im doing really well in the OG questions in CR up to about number 80, almost 95% correct but after that when I hit the hard problems I go down to about 50% correct and it is really pissing me off to loose such accuracy so quickly.

Its obvious that I need more practice with tougher questions, but aside from the OG where can I find a bank of questions that focus on JUST the hard 700-800 level questions. I know that GMATclub has a question bank and wanted to know what people thought about taking that route to get more practice questions.

I've done the MGMAT questions so that resource is out.

Thanks guys

You seem to be falling for a very common trap.

Low accuracy/not able to solve questions ----> Need more questions to practice

You may need more practice but that is a secondary requirement. Your primary requirement is understanding "WHY" your accuracy falls so drastically. "Do difficult questions require a much nuanced understanding of questions?" "You are good at basic concepts but not really the subtle understandings. " "Do you get confused between two choices in difficult questions and end up selecting the wrong one 50% of the time?"

What is the reason? You need to find that out. Unless you do that, all the additional practice you do will only give you satisfaction, not accuracy.

Thanks,
Chiranjeev

Hi Chiranjeev,
Sort of same problem for me also...
I'd say it's a mixed of above 3 reasons as stated by you...with a 20-30-50 ratio probably. So,the last one is more prevalent I think in my case.

It'd be really helpful if you could suggest some remedies to mitigate these weaknesses in least possible time.

Hi,

It's good that you have at least identified your problems. The only remedy to tackle is to analyse and analyse hard where you make mistakes. Why you think the way you think? Do you maintain an error log? Are you able to identify any patterns?

Also, different from above things, when you read any CR passage, are you able to clearly follow the logic of the passage? Related to this, how is your accuracy in Bold Face questions? Is it higher or lower than other CR questions?

Also, if you do analyze your mistakes, then can you share a couple of CR question you did incorrectly and the corresponding analysis? I would then try to help you identify the exact areas where you lack.

I know I haven't provided any suggestion but rather asked loads of questions. I believe a general "gyaan" (lecture) would not help you even though on the face, it may look really cool and informative. So, get down to work. Ask yourself hard questions. Then, let me know when I can help you.

Thanks,
Chiranjeev
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Hi,

It's good that you have at least identified your problems. The only remedy to tackle is to analyse and analyse hard where you make mistakes. Why you think the way you think? Do you maintain an error log? Are you able to identify any patterns?

Also, different from above things, when you read any CR passage, are you able to clearly follow the logic of the passage? Related to this, how is your accuracy in Bold Face questions? Is it higher or lower than other CR questions?

Also, if you do analyze your mistakes, then can you share a couple of CR question you did incorrectly and the corresponding analysis? I would then try to help you identify the exact areas where you lack.

I know I haven't provided any suggestion but rather asked loads of questions. I believe a general "gyaan" (lecture) would not help you even though on the face, it may look really cool and informative. So, get down to work. Ask yourself hard questions. Then, let me know when I can help you.

Thanks,
Chiranjeev

I actually reacted to your question about "Bold Face" accuracy (might be why my CR % is so low?) - this is my weakest area in CR (along with assumption & must be true questions). I too feel that I shouldn't be doing too many questions but rather focus on analyzing my mistakes - how is this done with CR?

How do I look for patterns?
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