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04 Aug 2011, 15:49
whiplash2411 wrote: When we signed up for the interviews, there were totally 84 slots. I haven't checked how many are left. And I'm not sure if it's 50% finance. It seems more inclined towards engineering. And I know a few people who got invites and we are all engineering girls. What other trends have you noticed, Sandy? Posted from my mobile device  INTERESTING, 84 SLOTS DOES NOT MEAN 84 INVITES, SINCE THEY JUST POST X SLOTS PER DAY FOR Y DAYS, SORTA, AND DONT CARE IF THERE ARE EMPTY SLOTS. VERY DIFFERENT THAN FROM MY G.P. SHE DONT GOT NO EMPTY SLOTS, AND YOU NEED TO SIGN UP WITH HER IT IS ABOUT 4 MONTHS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR 12 MINUTES OF FACE TIME. WHEN MEDICARE STARTS PAYING HBS FOR INTERVIEWS, THEY WILL DEVOLVE TO THAT SYSTEM-- REALLY, SOME INTERN COULD TALK TO YOU FOR 8 MINTUES TO SEE IF YOU CAN SPEAK ENGLISH, THEN DEE CAN COME IN FOR 12 MINUTES OF REAL INTERVIEW AND "GROPING," THEN DEE CAN SHUFFLE OFF TO NEXT INTERVIEW AND THEN SOME OTHER INTERN CAN ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. THEY COULD INTERVIEW MILLIONS. OK, BACK TO REALITY-- CRAZY GUESS HERE BASED ON NOT MUCH, SO FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, OR ADD ANY ATOM OF ACTUAL INFO. TOTAL NUMBER OF SUMMER 2+2 INTERVIEWS=70-75, YIELDING ~38-40+ ADMITS AND 18-25 WL. THOSE NUMBERS JUST FEEL RIGHT BASED ON FOUR ROUNDS AND TOTAL 2+2 CLASS OF 115-120+ (THAT FIGURE IS COMBINED "OLD" 2+2 CLASS OF 100-106 OR SO PLUS THE 10-15 KIDS THEY USED TO TAKE AS NON 2+2 COLLEGE SENIORS AND DEFER ANYWAY] THOSE NUMBERS GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY, WITH 80 0R SO MORE PLACES TO PLAY WITH + A VERY TALENTED WL TO FALL BACK ON. OF COURSE, SOME KIDS ARE ALREADY ON THE WL. AND PUTTING KIDS ON WL IS LIKE EASY. THEY PROBABLY PROJECTED THIS USING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF APPS RECEIVED OVER THE SUMMER (VS OLD TOTAL APPS WHEN YOU HAD TO APPLY IN SUMMER) AND DID NOT HAVE THE TIME OR PATIENCE TO INTEREST OR SKILLS TO ADJUST FOR ANY THEORETICAL QUALITY DIFFS AMONG EARLY APPLICANTS. THAT IS WHAT THE WAITLIST IS FOR.
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Re: HBS 2+2 Class of 2016 (Entering 2014) [#permalink]
04 Aug 2011, 20:22
hbsguru wrote: SAY, was anyone able to get some fix on the number of interview invites for 2+2 from the appointment book? I mean just some crude count of number of slots no longer available, altho I know sometimes they take down whole pages.
I'm doing a bunch of mock 2+2 interviews, and have now had the chance to look at the full applications of several invited kids. Dunno, if there is one golden thread it is this: history of working w. REAL BANK one summer and then history of DO-GOODER STUFF THE OTHER SUMMER or during the year. Admitedly, I'm working w. a smaller sample space than I prefer but that seems to jive up w. profiles posted here, too, altho not 100percent. As to any socko new trends, I dont see them --same old bunch of hi-performing finance and do-gooder types w. a sprinkle of hard sciences, altho HBS itself has said that cohort in years past has been 50-50 finance/other, hmmmmm, I think they are pretty liberal with the "other," and will go out of their way to count anyone as "other" they possibly can, viz. physics major who works on exotic derivates for Hedge Fund=OTHER, b.c. he also spent two weeks at NASA camp for nerds who like rockets. I also know of several really strong kids without interviews, or WL, mildly 'baffling' in some cases, altho maybe an adcom can take me aside and explain that they dont interview 1.Aries kids who 2. go to school in states beginning with letters J-R, based on some secret algo done over the past 30 years proviing that that is toxic combination, altho no one knows why.
[btw, that algo would capture ME] This is shocking. Aren't 60% of those admitted supposed to be Eng/Science Related?! Bank experience !! ?
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04 Aug 2011, 20:34
hbsguru wrote: INTERESTING, 84 SLOTS DOES NOT MEAN 84 INVITES, SINCE THEY JUST POST X SLOTS PER DAY FOR Y DAYS, SORTA, AND DONT CARE IF THERE ARE EMPTY SLOTS. VERY DIFFERENT THAN FROM MY G.P. SHE DONT GOT NO EMPTY SLOTS, AND YOU NEED TO SIGN UP WITH HER IT IS ABOUT 4 MONTHS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR 12 MINUTES OF FACE TIME. WHEN MEDICARE STARTS PAYING HBS FOR INTERVIEWS, THEY WILL DEVOLVE TO THAT SYSTEM-- REALLY, SOME INTERN COULD TALK TO YOU FOR 8 MINTUES TO SEE IF YOU CAN SPEAK ENGLISH, THEN DEE CAN COME IN FOR 12 MINUTES OF REAL INTERVIEW AND "GROPING," THEN DEE CAN SHUFFLE OFF TO NEXT INTERVIEW AND THEN SOME OTHER INTERN CAN ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. THEY COULD INTERVIEW MILLIONS.
OK, BACK TO REALITY-- CRAZY GUESS HERE BASED ON NOT MUCH, SO FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, OR ADD ANY ATOM OF ACTUAL INFO.
TOTAL NUMBER OF SUMMER 2+2 INTERVIEWS=70-75, YIELDING ~38-40+ ADMITS AND 18-25 WL. THOSE NUMBERS JUST FEEL RIGHT BASED ON FOUR ROUNDS AND TOTAL 2+2 CLASS OF 115-120+ (THAT FIGURE IS COMBINED "OLD" 2+2 CLASS OF 100-106 OR SO PLUS THE 10-15 KIDS THEY USED TO TAKE AS NON 2+2 COLLEGE SENIORS AND DEFER ANYWAY] THOSE NUMBERS GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY, WITH 80 0R SO MORE PLACES TO PLAY WITH + A VERY TALENTED WL TO FALL BACK ON. OF COURSE, SOME KIDS ARE ALREADY ON THE WL. AND PUTTING KIDS ON WL IS LIKE EASY. THEY PROBABLY PROJECTED THIS USING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF APPS RECEIVED OVER THE SUMMER (VS OLD TOTAL APPS WHEN YOU HAD TO APPLY IN SUMMER) AND DID NOT HAVE THE TIME OR PATIENCE TO INTEREST OR SKILLS TO ADJUST FOR ANY THEORETICAL QUALITY DIFFS AMONG EARLY APPLICANTS. THAT IS WHAT THE WAITLIST IS FOR. Hey Sandy, any guesses on how the odds would be different for Round 1, 2 or 3?
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05 Aug 2011, 07:05
My bet is they have a similar breakdown for R1 for interview/WL percentages before they change it up in R2 and R3. That's just my guess, though. That way they can stock up on strong applicants in the WL to compare to the late-rounders.
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Move aside plankers, leisure diving latest HBS INTERNET sensation and now for something different....................video, at Boston Herald, really worth a look. http://bostonherald.com/business/techno ... position=3Move aside plankers, leisure diving latest HBS INTERNET sensation By Joshua Walovitch Friday, August 5, 2011 - Updated 6 minutes ago Leave it to the brain trust at Harvard Business School to turn “leisure diving” — jumping into a body of water, fully clothed, while striking a lounging pose midair — into the hottest Internet trend. “Ideally, a photographer captures the moment when the diver has reached peak height above water, when his or her hips are parallel to the waterline,” said recent HBS grad Brian Thorne, who co-created HTTP://leisuredive.com, a site dedicated to posting the wet and wacky photos with John Lewis and Alex Scott . Within 12 hours of the site launch, it grabbed over a half million views.
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05 Aug 2011, 22:35
I just checked again and there were like 4 or 5 that were not filled. So maybe 80 interview invites?
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09 Aug 2011, 16:54
whiplash2411 wrote: I just checked again and there were like 4 or 5 that were not filled. So maybe 80 interview invites? thanks, that makes sense, altho i find it a bit odd they would put up only 84 options for 80 slots, altho everyone was ON NOTICE to clear those days for possible interview long time ago. Process is more volitile during 'regular' rounds where pages and new times and cities get added, and invites spurt out in two or three blasts and then some more dribble out, and they often take down pages. This sounds like summer rules, and besides, Dillon House prob in semi-snooze mode about now. Her Majesty prob. recreating in Scotland.
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09 Aug 2011, 16:58
Interesting. I guess the prior notification about requiring to attend an interview on campus must have done it, I guess?
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10 Aug 2011, 04:19
I am seeing more people applying in round one...I hope we can have the same percentage of interview:applicants
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10 Aug 2011, 04:27
02163 wrote: I am seeing more people applying in round one...I hope we can have the same percentage of interview:applicants Let's hope so
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10 Aug 2011, 09:01
Hey, just looking for anyone's feedback here... I finally took the GMAT yesterday and got a 730. My quant score was right in line with how I usually did on practice exams, but my verbal was lower than any of my practice tests. I know a 730 isn't an issue with regular admissions, but I would expect the average GMAT for 2+2 applicants to be higher than the average for HBS, so I'm concerned that it might be lower than most 2+2 applications. I know I can do better, but I don't want to retake it if it's not going to be worth my time. Any thoughts?
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Hi. I think a 730 will suffice because your gpa is 3.81. Both of these together puts a check mark that you have the "academic excellence" as stated in their admissions site. Just concentrate on other aspects of your application!
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10 Aug 2011, 09:47
730 is above their average for 2+2
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Sampo wrote: Hey, just looking for anyone's feedback here... I finally took the GMAT yesterday and got a 730. My quant score was right in line with how I usually did on practice exams, but my verbal was lower than any of my practice tests. I know a 730 isn't an issue with regular admissions, but I would expect the average GMAT for 2+2 applicants to be higher than the average for HBS, so I'm concerned that it might be lower than most 2+2 applications. I know I can do better, but I don't want to retake it if it's not going to be worth my time. Any thoughts? It's above average for 2+2: Testing InformationComplete Range of GMAT Scores 570-780 Average GMAT 720 Range of GRE Q 680-800 Range of GRE V 570-800 Average GRE Q 773 Average GRE V 662 Average GPA* 3.76 See the complete 2+2 class stats here: http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/class-statistics/2+2/
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10 Aug 2011, 10:05
OK, thanks for the advice. I guess I was worried over nothing. I'll probably just focus on the rest of my app instead of worrying about retaking the GMAT to try for 30 or so more points... looks like it wouldn't make a significant difference.
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Sampo wrote: OK, thanks for the advice. I guess I was worried over nothing. I'll probably just focus on the rest of my app instead of worrying about retaking the GMAT to try for 30 or so more points... looks like it wouldn't make a significant difference. Unless your scoring really well (99%), retaking it actually looks bad to the adcom. I would advise against it
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solb22 wrote: Sampo wrote: OK, thanks for the advice. I guess I was worried over nothing. I'll probably just focus on the rest of my app instead of worrying about retaking the GMAT to try for 30 or so more points... looks like it wouldn't make a significant difference. Unless your scoring really well (99%), retaking it actually looks bad to the adcom. I would advise against it What is the premise behind it? Why does it look bad?
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bb wrote: solb22 wrote: Sampo wrote: OK, thanks for the advice. I guess I was worried over nothing. I'll probably just focus on the rest of my app instead of worrying about retaking the GMAT to try for 30 or so more points... looks like it wouldn't make a significant difference. Unless your scoring really well (99%), retaking it actually looks bad to the adcom. I would advise against it What is the premise behind it? Why does it look bad? Because you look like a stickler (I have seen adcoms admit tis in interviews). Consider the following scenario: Someone scores a 750. They are upset they did not hit get 99% and retake to get 770. The adcoms see this as poor judgement; wasting time on the tests and needing to prove something. The only time I have heard to the contrary is when adcoms tell stories of when students truly believe they underscored their potential. He scored what he was expecting...so if he retakes he better do exceptionally better to warrant a retake.
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Yeah, I was expecting to get around 750-770, based off of my practice exams. I would have to have a really good day to do better than that, so I don't think an extra few points would make much of a difference. I'm guessing that it's just not worth it for me to retake in this case. Good point about the adcoms looking at it as a bad thing, too. I didn't really even think about that.
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