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22 Mar 2012, 08:00
It's nearly that time of year when the discussion turns from application and essays to which school choice. Congratulations to those who got in in R1 & R2 and best of luck to those still waiting.

I am in healthcare and my future is in Healthcare (Provider>Pharma>Payer in that order). I was fortunate enough to get into Duke HSM, Kellogg, and Boston U ($$). I am also an international, which means my perspective is going to be different. Here are my thoughts: Kellogg: Never been on-campus. I heard the facilities are horrible (trivial, I know). The school is known for Marketing (not healthcare). M7 (Don't know if this means anything). Most expensive of the lot. Duke: Awesome campus, students are amazing (Team Fuqua). HSM program is supposed to be the best! One thing bothered me though. The career center discouraged intl. students from applying to certain companies because those places did not have a track record with hiring internationals. I think that this is not a good attitude, although I understand the reasoning for a targeted approach. This school is very tempting, but Kellogg has messed my head up. Boston U: The new Dean is excellent, customer service is amazing (very student-focused), the career center is focused on Healthcare. I got a scholarship. After meeting the students, I realized that they all clearly had a feeling that it wasn't a Tier 1 school, which is such a shame. I don't know if that will hold them back. Anyone else have any thoughts from a Healthcare perspective? VP Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 1181 Concentration: General Management, Strategy Schools: Duke (Fuqua) - Class of 2012 Followers: 35 Kudos [?]: 408 [2] , given: 19 Re: Healthcare: Kellogg vs. Duke vs. Boston U ($$) [#permalink]

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23 Mar 2012, 06:51
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First of all, congrats on the admittances. If you want to be in healthcare, there is simply no better school than Fuqua. The resource available from HSM is simply unparalleled. Unlike a typical concentration in healthcare that other school offers, HSM offers more than just few courses in healthcare. It offers a broad array of courses, seminars, bootcamps, executive exposures, industry trips, mentorships, and much more. The alumni network in healthcare is very strong, whether it’s pharma, provider, payor, medical devices, CROs, etc. The abundance of biomedical startup opportunities in the research triangle area, and the close partnership with the Duke Hospital system provide students with very experiential experiences in many aspects of healthcare.

I think the bonus is that the weather is great year round, and the cost of living is MUCH lower than those of Northwestern or Boston U.
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The career center discouraged intl. students from applying to certain companies because those places did not have a track record with hiring internationals.

I think it is a misconception. The goal of the CMC here is to place as many people as possible. They do not discourage anyone from applying for companies. They may guide you in companies that sponsor international students, since some companies simply do not sponsor as a corporate policy (this is true across all schools).
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22 Mar 2012, 08:18
kelloggORduke wrote:
It's nearly that time of year when the discussion turns from application and essays to which school choice. Congratulations to those who got in in R1 & R2 and best of luck to those still waiting.

I am in healthcare and my future is in Healthcare (Provider>Pharma>Payer in that order). I was fortunate enough to get into Duke HSM, Kellogg, and Boston U ($$). I am also an international, which means my perspective is going to be different. Here are my thoughts: Kellogg: Never been on-campus. I heard the facilities are horrible (trivial, I know). The school is known for Marketing (not healthcare). M7 (Don't know if this means anything). Most expensive of the lot. Duke: Awesome campus, students are amazing (Team Fuqua). HSM program is supposed to be the best! One thing bothered me though. The career center discouraged intl. students from applying to certain companies because those places did not have a track record with hiring internationals. I think that this is not a good attitude, although I understand the reasoning for a targeted approach. This school is very tempting, but Kellogg has messed my head up. Boston U: The new Dean is excellent, customer service is amazing (very student-focused), the career center is focused on Healthcare. I got a scholarship. After meeting the students, I realized that they all clearly had a feeling that it wasn't a Tier 1 school, which is such a shame. I don't know if that will hold them back. Anyone else have any thoughts from a Healthcare perspective? Besides the fact that Duke is a great school, it sounds like it meets all of your requirements in regards to the kind of program you are looking for. I don't know much about healthcare at Kellogg, but I wouldn't go there purely based on name. If you haven't visited, and don't have much info on what their health care track record is, then I wouldn't take that leap unless you were interested in the possibility of switching to another field. Intern Joined: 22 Mar 2012 Posts: 9 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 2 Re: Healthcare: Kellogg vs. Duke vs. Boston U ($$) [#permalink]

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22 Mar 2012, 08:35
I applied to Kellogg because of the HIM program. The Kellogg Healthcare club is active, and they participate in many case competitions and conferences. I guess it boils down to $$and location now. Duke - great location, great weather Kellogg - weather is a joke, location (no idea) Anyone have any thoughts about living in Evanston vs. Durham? Intern Joined: 22 Mar 2012 Posts: 9 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 2 Re: Healthcare: Kellogg vs. Duke vs. Boston U ($$) [#permalink]

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22 Mar 2012, 08:58
How come there are no Reddits for business schools or MBAs?
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Re: Healthcare: Kellogg vs. Duke vs. Boston U ($$) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 22 Mar 2012, 09:08 kelloggORduke wrote: It's nearly that time of year when the discussion turns from application and essays to which school choice. Congratulations to those who got in in R1 & R2 and best of luck to those still waiting. I am in healthcare and my future is in Healthcare (Provider>Pharma>Payer in that order). I was fortunate enough to get into Duke HSM, Kellogg, and Boston U ($$\$). I am also an international, which means my perspective is going to be different. Here are my thoughts:

Kellogg: Never been on-campus. I heard the facilities are horrible (trivial, I know). The school is known for Marketing (not healthcare). M7 (Don't know if this means anything). Most expensive of the lot.

Duke: Awesome campus, students are amazing (Team Fuqua). HSM program is supposed to be the best! One thing bothered me though. The career center discouraged intl. students from applying to certain companies because those places did not have a track record with hiring internationals. I think that this is not a good attitude, although I understand the reasoning for a targeted approach. This school is very tempting, but Kellogg has messed my head up.

Boston U: The new Dean is excellent, customer service is amazing (very student-focused), the career center is focused on Healthcare. I got a scholarship. After meeting the students, I realized that they all clearly had a feeling that it wasn't a Tier 1 school, which is such a shame. I don't know if that will hold them back.

Anyone else have any thoughts from a Healthcare perspective?

I voted Duke. It's a great school and the HSM program is fantastic. Regardless of the career center thing you mentioned , I am certain you will reach your goals in the that field with the HSM program under your belt. You also seem most enthuastic about Duke, which is a datapoint that shouldnt be overlooked.
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22 Mar 2012, 09:20
kelloggORduke wrote:
I guess I am enthusiastic about Duke because I was floored by team spirit and laid back setting. I am biased towards Duke because I have been there in person. I've never visited Kellogg and I don't know how the atmosphere is there.

I read a 'Booth vs. Kellogg' article on PoetsandQuants, and it suggested that Kellogg'ites? Kelloggians? have a sense of entitlement (aka snobs). Is this true?

In my experience with Kellogg as an applicant and an admit, that couldnt be further from the truth. Actually, a huge part of the reason I applied to Kellogg is specifically because of the culture and how personable everyone is despite their achievement. I know myself and I wouldnt do well in an environment where everyone felt they were 'entitled'. Also, the notion that the facilities are terrible is a bit much. They arent modern, but they certainly aren't terrible.
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22 Mar 2012, 20:45
I guess Duke is up at this point. Kellogg is trailing. Boston U is out of the picture...
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23 Mar 2012, 07:52
The one thing I know for sure, unless you are dead set on being in NE eliminate BU from the list. Duke and Kellogg with no aid are def better options.

In terms of Kellogg or Duke, forget the specifics of the program. This is what really matters.

Where do you fit in better? You have to have meet students from both schools and see where you fit in better. I know this sounds cliche, but really there are differences. You find yourself fitting in with the people at several kids, but if you don't fit in you wont enjoy school. If you dont enjoy school, you wont get the right job after graduation. It is a trickle down affect.

I understand that Kellogg does not have an HSM program per say and is more of a supposed marketing school. The thing you need to look at is where do graduates end up. Where are the Kellogg alumni in terms of places you would want to be. Do they have the right connections to get you to your place or not. You know this about Duke already.

between those 2 I am sure you will have an idea. There are many ways to the same destination, the key is to make sure you have fun and put yourself in a position to get there as quickly as possible.

Regardless you are in a great position with 3 awesome schools. Good luck with your choice.
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23 Mar 2012, 19:29
These are fantastic responses! There's lot to dwell on over the next two weekends. I am attending BDW and DAK. Unfortunately, BDW/Fuqua tuition deadline is before DAK and I am not interested in hemorrhaging money right now . I have to make my decision before BDW. I will try to fly out to Kellogg before BDW and DAK to do some research.