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How many numbers between 10,000 and 40,000 which **do not**

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4.How many numbers between 10,000 and 40,000 which **do not** contain the digits 7 and 4 , can be divided by 15 ?



5.How many numbers between 10,000 and 100,000 **do not** have
reapeting digits and the the digits 3, 4 and 5 appear in ascending order(*but not necessarily adjacent*) ?



any NON - brute force ideas?

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 [#permalink] New post 07 Dec 2003, 05:28
for Q1. Numbers without 7 AND 4 we can have are 3x8x8x8x8=12 288 , numbers divisible by 15 should end with 5 OR 0, and the sum of numbers is divisible by 3, 10005,10010, 10015,10020,10025,10030,10035 so every third number is divisible by 15 or we have 12 288/3=4096...IMO :)
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Dec 2003, 06:01
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for Q1. Numbers without 7 AND 4 we can have are 3x8x8x8x8=12 288 , numbers divisible by 15 should end with 5 OR 0, and the sum of numbers is divisible by 3, 10005,10010, 10015,10020,10025,10030,10035 so every third number is divisible by 15 or we have 12 288/3=4096...IMO :)



need more help with => 3x8x8x8x8=12 288
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Dec 2003, 06:10
Since your number is between 10000 and 40000 first number we can select in 3 ways (1,2,3) the rest in 8 ways each ( without 7 and 4) which is ultimately 3x8x8x8x8
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BG wrote:
Since your number is between 10000 and 40000 first number we can select in 3 ways (1,2,3) the rest in 8 ways each ( without 7 and 4) which is ultimately 3x8x8x8x8



Wanna check your solution?

hint : the last digit can be only 5 or 0.

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 [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2003, 02:16
BG wrote:
is it 3072?


well ,3072/3 would be your "current" solution.

i am worried about your criteria for divisiblity ...

every third # divisible by 15??

are you sure it works for all the #'s

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Dec 2003, 01:28
Q1.
Total No's are 3*8*8*8*2. For divisibility by 15, the Nos are
10,005, 10020, 10035 ... etc; so these are 15 appart. In this seris there will be no numbers with 7 or 4 as the digits. so we have 30,000/15 = 2,000 numbers.

It seesm that the first part about digits is redundant information. Is this solution correct. :roll:

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Dec 2003, 03:09
345XX as a pair XX can occupy 4 places in 3 of them we have 42 possibilities when is at the beginning only 36 possibilities( without 0)3x42=126+36=162 different numbers, when separate 12 ways of ordering the two numbers but in 6 of them it can not be 0 or 6x36+6x42=216+252=468, total 162+468=630 numbers.. :)
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 [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2003, 09:24
praetorian123 could you please post the correct Ans.
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