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Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
10 Feb 2012, 15:32

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enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, of the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

is there any shortcut method to solve this type of problem?? _________________

some people are successful, because they have been fortunate enough and some people earn success, because they have been determined.....

please press kudos if you like my post.... i am begging for kudos...lol

Re: short cut method [#permalink]
05 Jun 2012, 19:59

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Any odd number can be expressed as 2k+1 or 2k+(3-2) or 2(K-1)+3. Thus, with the prime number 3, we can express all the odd numbers. Since, 1 i is the only number that cannot be expressed, answer is numbers <30 =29-1. _________________

Re: short cut method [#permalink]
05 Jun 2012, 23:26

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asax wrote:

Any odd number can be expressed as 2k+1 or 2k+(3-2) or 2(K-1)+3. Thus, with the prime number 3, we can express all the odd numbers. Since, 1 i is the only number that cannot be expressed, answer is numbers <30 =29-1.

Definitely very clever. I spent 2 minutes going the long way until I realized that.

Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
21 Aug 2012, 15:15

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Bunuel wrote:

enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

Hey Bunuel,

How can this be the entire list?

# of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
22 Aug 2012, 00:22

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alphabeta1234 wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

Hey Bunuel,

How can this be the entire list?

# of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Your list didn't include all those? What am I missing?

First of all we are asked about the number of positive integers less than 30, which are a multiple of 2 OR an odd prime number OR the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime.

Next, EACH numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive is a multiple of 2 OR an odd prime number OR the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime. So, the list is 2, 3, 4, 5, ..., 29 (total of 28 numbers).

So, which number is not included in the list? _________________

Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
24 Aug 2012, 12:27

Bunuel wrote:

alphabeta1234 wrote:

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

Hey Bunuel,

How can this be the entire list?

# of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Your list didn't include all those? What am I missing?

Bunuel's Response: First of all we are asked about the number of positive integers less than 30, which are a multiple of 2 OR an odd prime number OR the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime.

Next, EACH numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive is a multiple of 2 OR an odd prime number OR the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime. So, the list is 2, 3, 4, 5, ..., 29 (total of 28 numbers).

So, which number is not included in the list?[/quote]

Hey Bunuel,

Thanks for pointing out my mistake the same numbers that are generated by 2K+odd prime are also included in the same list as the odd primes. In other words A=# of even numbers between 1 and 29, inclusive B=# of odd primes between 1 and 29, inclusive C=# of 2K+odd_prime, between 1 and 29, inclusive

AUBUC=A+B+C-AB-AC-BC-ABC+N

AB=0, since there are no numbers both even and odd primes between 1 and 29, inclusive AC=0, since there are no numbers both even and 2K+odd_prime(=odd) between 1 and 29, inclusive ABC=0 since no numbers are even, and odd prime and a 2K+odd_prime and N=1, since only 1 fits the criteria of being niether an even number, neither an odd prime, and neither a 2K+odd_prime

My question I guess is for BC, numbers both an odd prime and 2K+odd_prime. Is there a way to tell, without actually listing out all the numbers that meet this condition and checking ?

Re: How many positive integers less than 30 are either a [#permalink]
22 Sep 2012, 13:56

I can't believe that what made this problem difficult was a "typo error" in the question statement!!!! Instead of "... number, of the sum of a positive multiple..." is "... number, OR the sum of a positive... Thank you for clarifying!!! =)

Re: How many positive integers less than 30 are either a [#permalink]
26 Jun 2013, 08:26

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enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, of the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime?

A. 29 B. 28 C. 27 D. 25 E. 23

Qquestion: 0<x<30 so, 1<=x<=29

leave x=1 alone for a while, and consider everything else i.e. 2<=x<=29

integer either multiple of 2 that will be almost half the no's (14) odd prime no, and sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime => Rest everything else has to be either a prime no or the sum of some multiple of 2(Those 14 no we got earlier)and a odd no

only for x=1, it is neither even, nor prime and definitely not the sum.

Thus ans = total no's - 1 = 29 - 1 = 28

Ans: B _________________

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Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
04 Oct 2013, 22:09

Bunuel wrote:

enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

I did not understand the last condition ? sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime ? it can be possible: 7=5+2 ???

Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
05 Oct 2013, 04:12

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sunny3011 wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

I did not understand the last condition ? sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime ? it can be possible: 7=5+2 ???

2 is not an odd prime.

But 7 CAN be written as the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime: 7 = 4 + 3. _________________

Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
16 Oct 2013, 23:26

Bunuel wrote:

enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

In this # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime ,.. why didnt we count 7=5+2 and 13=11+2,19=13+4 .. ??? these all are Sum of multiple of 2 and odd primes. ????

Re: How many +ve integers? [#permalink]
17 Oct 2013, 02:09

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ishdeep18 wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

enigma123 wrote:

How many positive integers less than 30 are either a multiple of 2, an odd prime number, or the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime? (A) 29 (B) 28 (C) 27 (D) 25 (E) 23

Any idea how to solve this guys?

30 sec approach: Any odd non-prime, greater than 1, can be obtained by the sum of an odd prime and a positive even number. So this set plus the set of odd primes basically makes the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 in the range. Now, the set of all odd numbers greater than 1 together with the set of all even numbers makes the set of all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive, so total of 28 numbers.

Answer: B.

To illustrate: # of even numbers in the range is (28-2)/2+1=14: 2, 4, 6, ..., 28; # of odd primes in the range is 9: 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, and 29; # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime is 5: 9=7+2, 15=13+2, 21=19+2, 25=23+2 and 27=23+4;

Total: 14+9+5=28. You can see that we have all numbers from 1 to 30, not inclusive: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...., 29.

Hope it's clear.

In this # of integers which are the sum of a positive multiple of 2 and an odd prime ,.. why didnt we count 7=5+2 and 13=11+2,19=13+4 .. ??? these all are Sum of multiple of 2 and odd primes. ????

Because 7, 13, and 19 (all primes) are included in the second set (dd primes). _________________

Re: How many positive integers less than 30 are either a [#permalink]
23 Dec 2013, 23:03

What are the actual 2 numbers that answer this question? I know 1 is one of them, but I can't think of the other one...I used to think it was 0 but technically 0 is neither positive nor negative...

Re: How many positive integers less than 30 are either a [#permalink]
24 Dec 2013, 00:33

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catalysis wrote:

What are the actual 2 numbers that answer this question? I know 1 is one of them, but I can't think of the other one...I used to think it was 0 but technically 0 is neither positive nor negative...

I think you misinterpreted the question. It asks: "how many positive integers less than 30 are ..." _________________

Re: How many positive integers less than 30 are either a [#permalink]
24 Dec 2013, 10:48

Bunuel wrote:

catalysis wrote:

What are the actual 2 numbers that answer this question? I know 1 is one of them, but I can't think of the other one...I used to think it was 0 but technically 0 is neither positive nor negative...

I think you misinterpreted the question. It asks: "how many positive integers less than 30 are ..."

Hi Bunuel - Sorry, I think I misworded my original question. I know the answer is 28, which means 28 numbers less than 30 meet the constraints given. However, I was just curious which values are the numbers that do NOT meet the constraints.

However, I have kind of answered my own question because now I realize that there are only 29 integers to choose from (1-29 inclusive), not 30 like I had originally thought, because 0 is not a positive integer and 30 cannot be included because the question asks for numbers less than 30. Therefore, it makes sense that 1 is the only integer that does not meet the constraints and I should not be looking for a second number. (29 possible integers - 1 integer that does not meet the constraints = 28 integers that meet the constraints, just like the answer says)

Hope this makes sense...

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