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How on earth do you shortlist your colleges?

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How on earth do you shortlist your colleges? [#permalink] New post 05 Nov 2010, 22:34
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This might seem a little too weird given that the admissions season is already in full swing. But I had serious concerns about to how to zero into colleges where my chance of admissions is high! I mean I wish to workin the same organization and am doing an MBA with an intent to break into a select higher management programme. So basically trying to focus on colleges with a strong general management and finance programs. But everyone including counsellors and seniors usually come up with the following list : harvard, Wharton, Ross, Darden , INSEAD. Frankly speaking I have a higher chance of getting hit by a meteorite and getting super powers than getting into these institutes, So i am really doubtful of my chances this year If i just stick to this list as for the second tier(as per BW) I have been told by certain ppl within my organization that my chances of getting into the leadership programme might go down considerably.

Seriously on what criteria are you guys shortlisting your colleges? Just on the prestige/location/faculty or and how do you judge whether you have chance at the insits?

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I am an Indian applicant working in the Corporate Banking as a Business analyst, I will have 4 years W.E by june 2011 and have 720 on my GMAT, extracurricular and community service is somewhere between good to excellent.
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Re: How on earth do you shortlist your colleges? [#permalink] New post 06 Nov 2010, 06:23
What makes you think you have no shot at these schools? You didn't mention your undergraduate GPA, but your GMAT is solid, your work experience seems solid (although I don't know much about banking), and although Indians tend to be a competitive pool, you are not part of the ultra-competitive Indian IT male group. Additionally, you seem to have a good grasp of why you want an MBA. (Although you will have to do a little work to convince schools that you are not just getting your ticket punched for this leadership programme).

If you want a more professional opinion of how competitive your profile will be at these schools, request a profile evaluation on one of the admissions consultant forums. They are all very good and will give you an honest, free, professional assessment of your chances. However, no one can predict with certainty which candidates will or will not get into these schools. Good luck!
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Re: How on earth do you shortlist your colleges? [#permalink] New post 07 Nov 2010, 08:35
Look where you want to work, find out what schools those places hire from. Think about what you want to do for a function and find out what schools have a solid rep in that area. Obviously big name schools are going to do a lot for you, so places like HBS are going to be great no matter what.

Then there is the personal debate, where would you enjoy being and what cities are you willing to go to. Also, there is the decision on whether a school is worth it for you. Personally I wasn't going to quit my job and go back fulltime if it wouldnt improve my career to a significant degree.
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Re: How on earth do you shortlist your colleges? [#permalink] New post 07 Nov 2010, 08:57
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Look where you want to work, find out what schools those places hire from. Think about what you want to do for a function and find out what schools have a solid rep in that area. Obviously big name schools are going to do a lot for you, so places like HBS are going to be great no matter what.

Then there is the personal debate, where would you enjoy being and what cities are you willing to go to. Also, there is the decision on whether a school is worth it for you. Personally I wasn't going to quit my job and go back fulltime if it wouldnt improve my career to a significant degree.


but what is screwing me up is the fact that, they don't go to any campuses for the leadership programme. You have to apply online, pass 5-6 rounds of interviews,aptitude tests & psychometric tests to get in. And its upto the organization where they send me out of the 87 countries in which they operate. So location isnt something I can really focus on. Sure HBS can get me recognition in upper mongolia but realistically there is one thing I have realised, I dont have the 'minerals' to get into HBS.

So I am basically going to be leveraging heavily upon my past association with the organization and then showcase the skills I acquired doing an MBA and how I can be a valuable asset for them to rehire in a senior leadership position. (I have been told by senior HR that i have a strong chance, so kind of confidant in that regard)

So given my slightly weird yet well defined career goals. All the colleges in the top 30 seem the same. I dont care about the place the college is, the placement figures or most of the other factors most ppl fret about and thats one of the main reasons why I cant come up with a list of colleges I should aim for! The best I have come up with is this:

Super stretch : Insead(R2)
Stretch : Darden(R1), ISB(R2)
Normal - Stretch : Emory(R2), Mccombs(R1) ,NUS(r1) and Nanyang(R1)
Safety : None! frankly, A safety for me would be the worst-best college that I would want to go to and there isnt a single one that comes to mind!!
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Re: How on earth do you shortlist your colleges? [#permalink] New post 07 Nov 2010, 10:22
BusinessWeek Stats (presumably Class of 2009)

Top Recruiting Organizations:
Insead: McKinsey - 97
Emory: Deloitte Consulting - 6

World Placements:
Insead: 7% North America
Emory: 94% North America

But these schools are the same, and there's no way they can be distinguished from each other given your career goals?

You should take riverripper's advice. Programs have different track records with majors, they are not all the same. Applicants aren't busting down Kellogg's door to get into finance, because their track record is phenomenal with consulting and marketing. Doesn't mean you can't do finance at Kellogg, or marketing at a school such as Stern, but you'd be wrong to assume your post-MBA "chances" are the same at both schools.

If location is irrelevant to you, and you're pinning all your hopes and dreams on this one organization, you need to find out which MBA programs are feeders. Intensive testing and off-campus recruiting doesn't render your program brand as irrelevant.

And consider what happens if you don't get into your dream firm? I bet you'll think the programs are different then.
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Re: How on earth do you shortlist your colleges?   [#permalink] 07 Nov 2010, 10:22
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