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However much United States voters may agree that there is a waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towards a minimal state

a) However much United States voters may agree that
b) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
c) Although United States voters agree
d) Even though United Staes voters may agree
e) There is agreement among United States voters that


The answer to this A. I agree.
Am just a little confused - I read in MGMAT that HOWEVER is a conjugative adverb, that should be used with semi colons and not commas, since terms like these are transitional and not actually conjunctions.. Any thoughts?
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Good question :)

We use 'however' as a conjunctive adverb showing contrast that we forget that it has another function: to express
extent. Let's have a look:

1. However much he prepped, he couldn't get a perfect score.

2. We must address all the concerns, however trivial some may be.

3. However, may concerns are of paramount importance and must be dealt with immediately.

The first two sentences use 'however' to express extent. When 'however' is used in this way it does not require a comma immediately following it. If 'however' is used to show contrast, as in sentence 3, then it needs a comma immediately following it.

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Thanks for the response Chris.. if I am using However as a sub-ordinator as follows
he likes to go to the market,however he will not go this week

if i havnt misunderstood, the portions on both sides of the comma are clauses and hence comma should not be used.we should rephrase as

he likes to go to the market;however he will not go this week

Is my understanding correct?
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It actually gets a little tricky if you use 'however' as a subordinate conjunction. If you join to independent clauses - as you did - then you must use the semi-colon with however. You must also put a comma in front of however, the way you would when however is used as a subordinate conjunction the beginning of the sentence.

He likes to go to market; however, he will not go this week.

Another important thing: however, when used as a Sub. Conj. can also go near the beginning of the sentence.

The man with the dog, however, could not dine at the restaurant.

Notice that 'the man with the dog' is not a dependent clause. Therefore ', however,' is correct and you do not need to use a semi-colon. Besides the placement of 'however,' this sentence is no different from:

However, the man with the dog could not dine at the restaurant.

Where a writer put the 'however' depends on the rhythm of the sentence. However, it is important to note that some grammar sticklers (influenced by Strunk and Whites Elements of Style), believe it is incorrect to start a sentence with 'however', when however is used as a subordinate conjunction.

The GMAT, however, does not subscribe to this "orthodoxy." I just thought I'd point this out because a google search on 'however' can yield conflicting info.

Hope that helps!
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However much United States voters may agree that there is a waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towards a minimal state

a) However much United States voters may agree that

b) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
this choice contains no element that parrallel with "and that..."

c) Although United States voters agree
wrong for the same reason as choice B

d) Even though United Staes voters may agree
wrong for the same reason as choice B

e) There is agreement among United States voters that
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ChrisLele, thanks for the explanation. One question - why "much" is used with voters (which is countable)?

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devinawilliam83 wrote:
However much United States voters may agree that there is a waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towards a minimal state

a) However much United States voters may agree that
b) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
c) Although United States voters agree
d) Even though United Staes voters may agree
e) There is agreement among United States voters that


The answer to this A. I agree.
Am just a little confused - I read in MGMAT that HOWEVER is a conjugative adverb, that should be used with semi colons and not commas, since terms like these are transitional and not actually conjunctions.. Any thoughts?


Hi mikemcgarry

could you please provide your comments for option A. Voters are countable then why we are using much for this countable noun.

Please clarify this.

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why "much" is used with voters (which is countable)?

Hi lh47620, much is not for voters, but for agreement.
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lh47620 wrote:
why "much" is used with voters (which is countable)?

Hi lh47620, much is not for voters, but for agreement.


can you please elaborate.
Much is used just before United States voters.
United States is modifying voters , hence adjective.
Now anything modifying United States voters should be adjective. Much is not an adjective...
Please explain how is it used for agreement?
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can you please elaborate.
Much is used just before United States voters.
United States is modifying voters , hence adjective.
Now anything modifying United States voters should be adjective. Much is not an adjective...
Please explain how is it used for agreement?

Hi gmatlbs, basically the circumlocution of option A is:

Howsoever much the agreement among United States voters be…

It's actually quite a commonly used pattern. For example:

Howsoever much Peter may insist on becoming an artist, his parents are determined to make Peter a Doctor.

Again, much is not intended to modify Peter, but insistence.
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