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However scientists determine to measure the presence of frozen water vapor on Jupiter, it will always be impossible to detect from space.

However scientists determine to measure
However it is determined by scientists to measure it
However, determined scientists are to measure
No matter how scientists are determining to measure
No matter how have scientists determined to measure
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 13:16
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However scientists determine to measure the presence of frozen water vapor on Jupiter, it will always be impossible to detect from space.

However scientists determine to measure
However it is determined by scientists to measure it
However, determined scientists are to measure
No matter how scientists are determining to measure
No matter how have scientists determined to measure


Is E is the OA?

My rationale:
A. I don't think "however" can be used as "despite", which is how the meaning of the sentence seems to appear.
B. Same reason as A + although 1st it is placeholder it, 2nd it has no antecedent; moreover, it just sounds absurd.
C. Same reason as A + this sentence appears to me a fragment as nothing seems to be the main clause.
D. The 1st part of the sentence has incorrect use of continuous tense. It should be in present or present perfect.

E. Poses the contrast clearly, and use of the present perfect is justified as the method to measure was determined in recent past and is still used.
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 15:42
I went with D

E is fine except for "No matter how have scientists.." did not sound right to me.

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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 16:02
Imo A. What is the source of Q?

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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 17:45
A for me.

However here is functioning as "In whatever manner". D and E have weakening errors, which eliminate them. C changes the meaning and B introduces passive voice.

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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 19:11
IMO - A

Out of A and E, A is better.

All other choices have errors. Even though use of "However" appears to be awkward
E - It should be "No matter how have scientists determined to ...., it will always be impossible to ...."
Error - parallelism - It should be ""No matter how scientists have determined to .."
"have determined"//"be"
Tense is fine here...
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 21:05
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A for me.

However here is functioning as "In whatever manner". D and E have weakening errors, which eliminate them. C changes the meaning and B introduces passive voice.

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One more A.. what is the OA???
Also what are weakening errors???
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2011, 23:24
OA is
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Read in some other forum.However, any expert opinions/explanations for it ?
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2011, 21:41
IMO E, A does not sound correct in terms of contrast
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2011, 22:53
I was confused b/w A and E.
E doesn't fit the bill because
a-> determined - if I see it as a participle modifying scientists - the sentence is fragmented
b-> if I use it as a verb, then the sentence will be in present perfect verb, the sentence means that the scientists are no longer trying to find water, an idea not conveyed in the sentence.
I choose A
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2011, 09:38
Beast of a question. I was not sure between A and E. Finally ended up choosing E as I wasn't sure if construction in A fits correctly in the context.
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2011, 11:18
i chose D because 'however' doesn't sound good to the ear..any expert comments on this?
If 'however' is not right, the i reckon the answer is A.
what is the OA/OE?
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2011, 14:43
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bschool83 wrote:
However scientists determine to measure the presence of frozen water vapor on Jupiter, it will always be impossible to detect from space.

However scientists determine to measure
However it is determined by scientists to measure it
However, determined scientists are to measure
No matter how scientists are determining to measure
No matter how have scientists determined to measure


Is E is the OA?

My rationale:
A. I don't think "however" can be used as "despite", which is how the meaning of the sentence seems to appear.
B. Same reason as A + although 1st it is placeholder it, 2nd it has no antecedent; moreover, it just sounds absurd.
C. Same reason as A + this sentence appears to me a fragment as nothing seems to be the main clause.
D. The 1st part of the sentence has incorrect use of continuous tense. It should be in present or present perfect.

E. Poses the contrast clearly, and use of the present perfect is justified as the method to measure was determined in recent past and is still used.

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i chose D because 'however' doesn't sound good to the ear..any expert comments on this?
If 'however' is not right, the i reckon the answer is A.
what is the OA/OE?


I checked the meaning of however in dictionary.

One of the meanings is: In whatever way or manner
Usages:
1. Victory, however it was brought about, was sweet.
2. However he did it, it was very clever.

Considering these example A seems to be the best solution. I have never used however in this manner, so I misinterpreted the meaning of the original sentence.

But I am not fully convinced why E is incorrect. Any takers? Is it just the wordiness?
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2011, 16:27
Two errors with E. 1. Have determined vs. to detect 2. No matter how have scientists... have should come after scientists

A is the correct answer.
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2011, 19:41
Can someone explain why A is correct and other choices are not.
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Re: SC - 700 level - water [#permalink] New post 04 Aug 2011, 11:20
nageshshiv,

Hope the following examples will clear your doubts. FYI - both examples are correct, but only one form is used in the answer choices.

1) However much nageshshiv scores in GMAT, he will succeed in life.

2) No matter how much nageshshiv scores in GMAT, he will succeed in life.
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