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I normally would not post two questions in one thread but I [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 07:13
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I normally would not post two questions in one thread but I really need to know the difference in the usage of:
a. so - that and
b. so - as to be

Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.
(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 07:29
going by their sound, i wud distinguish one from the other....

Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

For the above mentioned SC, only A fits the bill.............so as to be is idiomatic, so m not sure if i can elaborate much on it............

as concerns the second one:

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and

D wud be my answer................the reason is no different from wat i mentioned earlier.........it's idiomatic and fits well in the sentence............

Please correct me, if m wrong............
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 08:04
jyotsnasarabu wrote:
going by their sound, i wud distinguish one from the other....

Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

For the above mentioned SC, only A fits the bill.............so as to be is idiomatic, so m not sure if i can elaborate much on it............

as concerns the second one:

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and

D wud be my answer................the reason is no different from wat i mentioned earlier.........it's idiomatic and fits well in the sentence............

Please correct me, if m wrong............


I won't let the OAs out so quickly! I'll wait for a few more posts. In the second question, dont you think that they in D can be ambiguos (refers to employers or the workers)?
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 08:21
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jyotsnasarabu wrote:
going by their sound, i wud distinguish one from the other....

Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

For the above mentioned SC, only A fits the bill.............so as to be is idiomatic, so m not sure if i can elaborate much on it............

as concerns the second one:

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.

(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and

D wud be my answer................the reason is no different from wat i mentioned earlier.........it's idiomatic and fits well in the sentence............

Please correct me, if m wrong............


I won't let the OAs out so quickly! I'll wait for a few more posts. In the second question, dont you think that they in D can be ambiguos (refers to employers or the workers)?


Can't think straight now....................i'll leave it for u to reveal the answers...........
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 14:53
1. Chose A
2. Chose B. "so as to" --> "in order to" is better construction.
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Re: SC 1000 - use of so-as to [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 21:32
1. Between a and c, i choose c because it is more clear.passive form to be is used because climatic shift are not choosing to be indistinguishable.

2. choice b.that looks the most clear to me.

what's the oa???
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Re: SC 1000 - use of so-as to [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 22:17
there is another one testing the same funda.that's the reason i've put this in the same thread.
here u go..

The ancient Romans piped hot water through the walls and under the floors so as to warm up the rooms.

A. so as to warm up the rooms
B. and so would be able to warm up the rooms
C. to warm the rooms up
D. so that they could warm up the rooms
E. in order that they would warm up the rooms
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2006, 22:32
first one A.

so... as to be.. is correct.


second one D.

so as to do sth together is too wordy. why do you wanna use it instead of just a "to"?
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 [#permalink] New post 20 Nov 2006, 19:20
OAs are:

1. A - This I agree with.
2. D - This I do NOT agree with. The 'they' is clearly an ambiguous pronoun. Does it refer to the employers or to the workers? Although B is wordier, it does not have any fatal errors.

Since quite a few of us got the second one (supposedly) wrong, could any of the big guns (Paul, vivek123, Honghu, etc) please comment on this?
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Re: SC 1000 - use of so-as to [#permalink] New post 20 Nov 2006, 19:49
kripalkavi wrote:
I normally would not post two questions in one thread but I really need to know the difference in the usage of:
a. so - that and
b. so - as to be

Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.
(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and


One more for A and D.

I do not think D is ambigous...The verbs are attached to the following nouns: Congress is providing and the workers are caring.
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 [#permalink] New post 21 Nov 2006, 16:28
1. A
2. B (they in D does not seem to refer to any group)
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