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kevincan wrote: I take this seriously because it's my job to do so. If my students ask me about the exam, I want to be able to give them accurate, timely information. Pelihu happens to be right on this issue, even if diplomacy is not always his strong suit.  Have you noticed that there is a wide range of Verbal Scores (45-51) that correspond to 99% percentile, but only one Quant. Score (51) that does so? This is also the case in the GRE exam. I didn't know about the GRE, but I did notice that about the GMAT. I guess the simple explanation is that a lot of people from outside the US take the exam, and that it seems to be increasingly popular with engineers and IT types (not surprising with all the successful tech companies needing more managers). Many of these people are extremely good at math, but English may not be their first language or concern.
I did also notice that at the top end, increases Q score seem to result in bigger increases in total score. For example, here at GMAT club we have seen 50/43=760, 50/47=770 & 50/51=780. So going from 43 to 51 V results in a 20 point gain in overall score. I guess once you get past the 99th percentile, the scoring increases compress. On the other hand, going from 43-51 Q would be a lot more points, but the competition in Q is certainly more pronounced.
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Just curious if this is the same guy who claimed to have scored an "800" earlier last summer. 
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Pelihu,
Do you think 1000SC and 1000RC is the best way of practising?
Also in terms of doing tests, do you recommend MGMAT tests?
Thanks.
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rhyme wrote: I gave GMAC a call. They told me the highest possible math score is 51. The only reason they list up to 60 on both verbal and math is because their software adjusts the %'s annually, so if one year people tend to score much higher on the range, it can bump the raw scores to better distribute the top.
edit: For clarity, 51 is apparently the highest math score possible in the last two years. I dont know before that.
Well, the guy did say he got his score in Oct. 2004, so maybe the scoring scale was different at that time. I guess until I see differently, I'm dubious.
Regarding GMAC's explanation, does anyone have the feeling that the math scoring range might start to move up in future years? It's getting awefully compressed at the top. Going from 51 to 49 with drop you from 99th to 90th. Yikes.
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Its just a matter of time before more people start scoring 50s and 51s on Quant. As time goes on, academic standards creep up, usually faster than the expectations of the performance. When that happens, standardized tests are the trailing indicators not the leading.
Looking back there were days when 680 could have gotten you in the top 10. Not anymore...
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correction:
I thought I did it in Oct 2004. It was Nov 2003 after checking my records. I thougth 680 would be good enough for Haas EWMBA but guess even part time programs are hard to get in. I have dropped the idea of part time sicne i feel it may not add the value I am lokoing for. The funniest thing and feedback was that I needed to improve my interview skills, mainly my presentation...well...since I did not wear a tie!
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Hey MATT, I was thinking that same thing.
Hindustan wrote: Pelihu,
Do you think 1000SC and 1000RC is the best way of practising?
Also in terms of doing tests, do you recommend MGMAT tests?
Thanks.
But, I'm happy to answer a serious question. I do not recommend SC1000 and CR1000 (I didn't do the RC) as a starting point for studying for verbal. I would recommend the OG as well as the paper tests. I would definitely NOT recommend Kaplan. I didn't use MGMAT, but many reliable people have had good things to report about those guides, especially the SC.
Once you are comfortable with all the rules and basics you can use the SC1000 and CR1000 to sharpen your skills and timing. They are a great way to go through a whole bunch of questions quickly, but they are only useful if you have the basic skills locked down.
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Thanks Pelihu.
I guess I should postpone my test date then, and up my verbal, though I have till Oct 19 before my first early decision deadline stares at me.
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I am glad to see this thread blow a little cooler (or maybe I'm not and was dying to use my new-found Moderator powers....) 
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Futuristic wrote: I am glad to see this thread blow a little cooler (or maybe I'm not and was dying to use my new-found Moderator powers....) Awww.... Ok I'll give you a reason to use them!
You can delete this post!
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This is so entertaining...
Hindustan, judging from your posts, i gather you will need to do a lot more than SC1000 and CR1000 to improve your verbal score. Maybe buy some high school grammar books on "Standard Written English". Hope this helps!
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