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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
why cant we get an answer by simply substituting values in the equation |10y - 4| > 7
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why cant we get an answer by simply substituting values in the equation |10y - 4| > 7


Actually we can, this would also be a correct approach.
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
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laythesmack23 wrote:
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1


We can simply plug answer choices less than 1 and see which one satisfies given inequality, or do the following:

\(|10y - 4| > 7\) means that either \(10y-4>7\) (when \(y>\frac{4}{10}\)) or \(-(10y-4)>7\) (when \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\)).

Solve both inequalities:
\(10y-4>7\) --> \(y>1.1\). Since we are told that \(y<1\), then discard this solution.

\(-(10y-4)>7\) --> \(y<-0.3\). Only answer choice which is less than -0.3 is -0.8.

Answer: A.

Hope it's clear.


If I am not mistaken you have a typo in your explanation: 10y-4>7 shall be y>11/10 not y>4/10.
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rhallik wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
laythesmack23 wrote:
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1


We can simply plug answer choices less than 1 and see which one satisfies given inequality, or do the following:

\(|10y - 4| > 7\) means that either \(10y-4>7\) (when \(y>\frac{4}{10}\)) or \(-(10y-4)>7\) (when \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\)).

Solve both inequalities:
\(10y-4>7\) --> \(y>1.1\). Since we are told that \(y<1\), then discard this solution.

\(-(10y-4)>7\) --> \(y<-0.3\). Only answer choice which is less than -0.3 is -0.8.

Answer: A.

Hope it's clear.


If I am not mistaken you have typos in your explanation: 10y-4>7 shall be y>11/10 not y>4/10. The same applies to -(10y-4)...


No typo there.

When \(y>\frac{4}{10}\), then we have \(10y-4>7\) --> \(y>\frac{11}{10}\).

When \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\)), then we have \(-(10y-4)>7\) --> \(y<-\frac{3}{10}\).

Hope it's clear.
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

|10y - 4| > 7
|10(-.8) - 4| > 7
|-8-4| > 7
|-12| > 7
|12| > 7
12 > 7

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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
rhallik wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
laythesmack23 wrote:
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1


We can simply plug answer choices less than 1 and see which one satisfies given inequality, or do the following:

\(|10y - 4| > 7\) means that either \(10y-4>7\) (when \(y>\frac{4}{10}\)) or \(-(10y-4)>7\) (when \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\)).

Solve both inequalities:
\(10y-4>7\) --> \(y>1.1\). Since we are told that \(y<1\), then discard this solution.



\(-(10y-4)>7\) --> \(y<-0.3\). Only answer choice which is less than -0.3 is -0.8.

Answer: A.

Hope it's clear.


If I am not mistaken you have a typo in your explanation: 10y-4>7 shall be y>11/10 not y>4/10.



Bunuel how are you getting the y > 4/10?
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
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rhallik wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1

We can simply plug answer choices less than 1 and see which one satisfies given inequality, or do the following:

\(|10y - 4| > 7\) means that either \(10y-4>7\) (when \(y>\frac{4}{10}\)) or \(-(10y-4)>7\) (when \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\)).

Solve both inequalities:
\(10y-4>7\) --> \(y>1.1\). Since we are told that \(y<1\), then discard this solution.



\(-(10y-4)>7\) --> \(y<-0.3\). Only answer choice which is less than -0.3 is -0.8.

Answer: A.

Hope it's clear.


If I am not mistaken you have a typo in your explanation: 10y-4>7 shall be y>11/10 not y>4/10.



Bunuel how are you getting the y > 4/10?


4/10 is a transition point for 10y-4 (transition point is a value of a variable for which expression in absolute value changes its sign).

When \(y>\frac{4}{10}\), then 10y - 4 > 0, so |10y - 4| = 10y - 4.

When \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\), then 10y - 4 <= 0, so |10y - 4| = -(10y - 4).
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
Bunuel wrote:
laythesmack23 wrote:
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1


We can simply plug answer choices less than 1 and see which one satisfies given inequality, or do the following:

\(|10y - 4| > 7\) means that either \(10y-4>7\) (when \(y>\frac{4}{10}\)) or \(-(10y-4)>7\) (when \(y\leq{\frac{4}{10}}\)).

Solve both inequalities:
\(10y-4>7\) --> \(y>1.1\). Since we are told that \(y<1\), then discard this solution.

\(-(10y-4)>7\) --> \(y<-0.3\). Only answer choice which is less than -0.3 is -0.8.

Answer: A.

Hope it's clear.[/quo


How can u assume that the answer is -0.8 when get the solved answered as -0.3??

please explain @bunnel
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How can u assume that the answer is -0.8 when get the solved answered as -0.3??

please explain @bunnel


We did not get that y = -0.3. We got that y < -0.3 (y is LESS than 0.3). -0.8 IS LESS than -0.3, so y could be -0.8
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
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shinrai15 wrote:


How can u assume that the answer is -0.8 when get the solved answered as -0.3??

please explain @bunnel


We did not get that y = -0.3. We got that y < -0.3 (y is LESS than 0.3). -0.8 IS LESS than -0.3, so y could be -0.8


Thank you @bunnel for clarifying..
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
Solve the equation by taking out the modulus so we get 10y - 4 > 7 or 10y - 4 < -7.

On solving the equations as per the condition that y <0 we get that y < -3/10 I.e. y < -0.3; thus the only option that fits is -0.8, hence option A

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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
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If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1



Plug-in answer choices into inequality

Let y = -0.8...........|10* -0.8 - 4| > 7.............|-12| > 7.......12 > 7

Answer: A
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?
A little doubt here..

We can write this as

-7>(10y-4)>7

Add 4

-3> 10y>11

Divide by 10

-0.3>y>1.1

So y is between -0.3 to 1.1 and y is <1 as per question ------------> So why answer is A.

I am sure I am missing something but I don't know what..

Please explain Bunuel
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Re: If |10y-4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y? [#permalink]
Mo2men wrote:
feellikequitting wrote:
If |10y - 4| > 7 and y < 1, which of the following could be y?

A. -0.8
B. -0.1
C. 0.1
D. 0
E. 1



Plug-in answer choices into inequality

Let y = -0.8...........|10* -0.8 - 4| > 7.............|-12| > 7.......12 > 7

Answer: A


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