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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
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Hi All,

The answer choices to this question are written in a way that helps us to avoid some of the math involved.

We're told that 3^K + 3^K = (3^9)^[3^9] - 3^K. We're asked for the value of K.

To start, we should move all like terms to one side...

3^K + 3^K + 3^K = (3^9)^[3^9]

The 'left side' can be rewritten....

3(3^K) = (3^9)^[3^9]

3^(K+1) = (3^9)^[3^9]

Both sides have the same "base 3", so since the "right side exponent" is clearly a BIG INTEGER, we know that...

K+1 = a BIG INTEGER
K = a BIG INTEGER - 1

There's only one answer that fits...

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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
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3^k+3^k=(3^9)^3^9 - 3^k --> moving the - 3^k to the other side:
3(3^k) = (3^9)^3^9 --> using the properties of powers, we are now adding the exponents:
3^k+1 = 3^ (3^2)^(3^9) (here we broke 9 into 3^2)
k+1 = 3^2*3^9
k+1 = 3^11
k = 3^11 - 1.

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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
Can anyone tell me what Im doing mathematically illegal.

I start by seeing all the bases are the same so I go straight to the exponents.

k+k=9x\(3^9\)-k

3k=\(3^2*3^9\)

3k=\((3^11)\)

k=\((3^11)/3\)

k=\(3^10\)

I believe I'm doing something wrong in step 2 but not sure if it is or not can anyone confirm?
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Hi xLUCAJx,

The first error is right at the beginning - you cannot combine exponents in the way that you did:

3^K + 3^K is NOT 3^2K

3^K + 3^K = 2(3^K)

When you add 3^K to both sides, the 'left side' becomes...

3^K + 3^K + 3^K

This can be rewritten as...

3(3^K) =
(3^1)(3^K) =
3^(K+1)

Using these steps as your 'starting point', what would you do next?

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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
Anyone knows what is the maximum number of "aggregated exponents" GMAT is likely to test? I could only solve this question because it regarded only "2 aggregated powers":\((3^9)^{3^9}\). Does "3 aggregated powers" such as \({3^9}^{3^9}\) are possible to appear on GMAT questions? How to solve them?
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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
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If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^(3^9) - 3^k, then k = ?

(A) 11/3
(B) 11/2
(C) 242
(D) 3^10
(E) 3^11 - 1


3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^(3^9) - 3^k

3^k + 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^(3^9)

Note that on the left side, when we add 3^k to itself three times, we have 3(3^k).

3(3^k) = (3^9)^(3^9)

3^(k + 1) = 3^((3^2)(3^9))

3^(k + 1) = 3^(3^11)

Since the bases are equal, we can equate the exponents:

k + 1 = 3^11

k = 3^11 - 1

Answer: E
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If \(3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^{3^9}-3^k\), then what is the value of k?

(A) 11/3
(B) 11/2
(C) 242
(D) 3^10
(E) 3^11 – 1


Let’s simplify the given equation:

3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^(3^9) - 3^k

3^k + 3^k + 3^k = 3^(9 * 3^9)

Pull out the common factor 3^k from each term on the left side of the equation:

3^k * (1 + 1 + 1) = 3^(3^2 * 3^9)

3^k * (3) = 3^(3^11)

Note that the left side is now 3^k * 3^1, so we combine (add) the exponents:

3^(k + 1) = 3^(3^11)

k + 1 = 3^11

k = 3^11 - 1

Answer: E
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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
Hi ,
I was able to solve it but took about 7 mints :(.. my initial approach was :
3^k+3^k+3^k = (3^9)^(3^9)
3(3)^k =3(3^8)^(3^9)
3^k=(3^8)^(3^9)
k=8*(3^9)
I wasnt able to proceed beyond this and hence went back and re worked on it using the approach given by Brunnel. But out of curiousity, can anyone help me with where I went wrong in my approach?
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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
Can anyone please explain how 3^3k is transformed to 3^k+1
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Can anyone please explain how 3^3k is transformed to 3^k+1


I think you mean how is \(3*3^k=3^{k+1}\)

Operations involving the same bases:
Keep the base, add or subtract the exponent (add for multiplication, subtract for division)
\(a^n*a^m=a^{n+m}\)

\(\frac{a^n}{a^m}=a^{n-m}\)


So, \(3*3^k=3^1*3^k=3^{k+1}\)


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Re: If 3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^3^9 3^k, then what is the value of k? [#permalink]
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Bunuel wrote:
If \(3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^{3^9}-3^k\), then what is the value of k?

(A) 11/3
(B) 11/2
(C) 242
(D) 3^10
(E) 3^11 – 1


Let’s simplify the given equation:

3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^(3^9) - 3^k

3^k + 3^k + 3^k = 3^(9 * 3^9)

Pull out the common factor 3^k from each term on the left side of the equation:

3^k * (1 + 1 + 1) = 3^(3^2 * 3^9)

3^k * (3) = 3^(3^11)

Note that the left side is now 3^k * 3^1, so we combine (add) the exponents:

3^(k + 1) = 3^(3^11)

k + 1 = 3^11

k = 3^11 - 1

Answer: E


Is the reason why \(3^k+3^k+3^k\) doesn't equal \(3^2k\) is because exponential terms that are added or subtracted cannot be combined? I am reviewing the MGMT algebra book and didn't understand that concept at first.
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ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
If \(3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^{3^9}-3^k\), then what is the value of k?

(A) 11/3
(B) 11/2
(C) 242
(D) 3^10
(E) 3^11 – 1


Let’s simplify the given equation:

3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^(3^9) - 3^k

3^k + 3^k + 3^k = 3^(9 * 3^9)

Pull out the common factor 3^k from each term on the left side of the equation:

3^k * (1 + 1 + 1) = 3^(3^2 * 3^9)

3^k * (3) = 3^(3^11)

Note that the left side is now 3^k * 3^1, so we combine (add) the exponents:

3^(k + 1) = 3^(3^11)

k + 1 = 3^11

k = 3^11 - 1

Answer: E


Is the reason why \(3^k+3^k+3^k\) doesn't equal \(3^2k\) is because exponential terms that are added or subtracted cannot be combined? I am reviewing the MGMT algebra book and didn't understand that concept at first.


Hi whollymoses,

The GMAT will sometimes test you on concepts that you know, but in ways that you are not used to thinking about. For example, I bet that you know how to do basic Arithmetic.

For example:
1 + 1 + 1 = 3(1)

In that same way, I bet that you can do basic Algebra too:
X + X + X = 3(X)

At this point, you probably recognize the pattern. Now, apply it to the math you asked about...
\(3^k+3^k+3^k = 3(3^k\))

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Is the reason why \(3^k+3^k+3^k\) doesn't equal \(3^2k\) is because exponential terms that are added or subtracted cannot be combined? I am reviewing the MGMT algebra book and didn't understand that concept at first.


Yes you are correct. The only thing you can do with 3^k + 3^k + 3^k is factor out 3^k, giving you:

3^k(1 + 1 + 1) = 3^k * 3
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Bunuel, VeritasKarishma why cant we use the exponents formula of (a^x)^c = c.a^x in this question. For eg : Can this (3^9)^3^9 be written as 3^9.3^9?
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Bunuel wrote:
If \(3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^{3^9}-3^k\), then what is the value of k?

(A) 11/3
(B) 11/2
(C) 242
(D) 3^10
(E) 3^11 – 1

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Given: \(3^k + 3^k = (3^9)^{3^9}-3^k\)

Asked: What is the value of k?

\(3.3^k = 3^{9.3^9}\)
\(3^{k+1} = 3^{3^11}\)
\(k+1 = 3^11\)
\(k = 3^11 -1\)

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Bunuel, VeritasKarishma why cant we use the exponents formula of (a^x)^c = c.a^x in this question. For eg : Can this (3^9)^3^9 be written as 3^9.3^9?
Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks


The exponent rule is:

\((a^b)^c = a^{bc}\)
The exponents get multiplied.

It is not the same as \(a^b * c\)

We are given
\((3^9)^{3^9} = 3^{9*3^9}\)
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