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If a and b are positive integers, what is the remainder when ab is divided by 40?

(1) b is 60% greater than a.

(2) Each of \(a^2b\) and \(ab^2\) is divisible by 40.


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If a and b are positive integers, what is the remainder when ab is divided by 40?

(1) b is 60% greater than a --> \(b=1.6a\)--> \(b=\frac{8}{5}a\) --> \(\frac{b}{a}=\frac{8}{5}\) --> b is a multiple of 8 (8x) and a is a multiple of 5 (5x) --> ab=5x*8x=40x^2. The remainder when \(ab=40x^2\) is divided by 40 is 0. Sufficient.

(2) Each of a^2 *b and a*b^2 is divisible by 40. If a=2 and b=10, then ab=20 and the the remainder is also 20 but if a=b=40, then ab=40^2 and the remainder si 0. Not sufficient.

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Could we also pick numbers for (1)?

(1) b = 1,6a
--> pick smart numbers: b=10 , a=16 --> 10*16 / 40 = 4 + R0 --> Sufficient

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Could we also pick numbers for (1)?

(1) b = 1,6a
--> pick smart numbers: b=10 , a=16 --> 10*16 / 40 = 4 + R0 --> Sufficient

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This won't work in all cases. If the question were "what is the remainder when ab is divided by 80?", then with your numbers you'd still get that the remainder is 0, and the statement is sufficient. But this would be wrong: if b=5 and a=5, then ab=40 and the remainder is 40 not 0.

Hope it's clear.
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Hi Bunuel,
i got this question wrong,but can you poiunt out th eflaw in my reasoning here,
what i did was i calculated that b= 8* a /5 and then ab = (8 * a^2 )/5. now if i divide this new ab by 40 i am left with a^2/25. after this i plugged numbers for a and got different remainders i.e if a^2 = 1, 4, 9, 16 etc , i will have different remainders therefore S1 is insufficient.
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Hi Bunuel,
i got this question wrong,but can you poiunt out th eflaw in my reasoning here,
what i did was i calculated that b= 8* a /5 and then ab = (8 * a^2 )/5. now if i divide this new ab by 40 i am left with a^2/25. after this i plugged numbers for a and got different remainders i.e if a^2 = 1, 4, 9, 16 etc , i will have different remainders therefore S1 is insufficient.


From b= 8* a /5 (b/a = 8/5) it follows that a must be a multiple of 5, so you should plug only multiples of 5 there.
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kingflo wrote:
Could we also pick numbers for (1)?

(1) b = 1,6a
--> pick smart numbers: b=10 , a=16 --> 10*16 / 40 = 4 + R0 --> Sufficient

Right?


This won't work in all cases. If the question were "what is the remainder when ab is divided by 80?", then with your numbers you'd still get that the remainder is 0, and the statement is sufficient. But this would be wrong: if b=5 and a=5, then ab=40 and the remainder is 40 not 0.

Hope it's clear.


Isn't it possible to actually pick numbers here for (1) ?
We know both 'a' and 'b' have to be positive integers, and b is always 1.6 times of a.
So, all integer combinations which satisfy the condition - b=1.6a can help us.

    a --> b = 1.6 a
    5 --> 8
    10 --> 16
    15 --> 24
and likewise, and in all cases remainder will be 0. Right ?
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