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Re: Coordinate Geometry [#permalink]
21 May 2010, 10:40

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It's much easier to work toward an explanation when you know the right answer, heh.

From the first part of the question, we can be sure that the sign (+/-) of x has to equal the sign of y since (-x,y) and (-y,x) are in the same quadrant.

(1) Tells us that whatever the signs of s and t are, they have to be same (otherwise > 0 doesn't hold). But this means (-s,t) could be in one of two quadrants. (A is out, thus so is D)

(2) Tells us that the sign of t and x must be the same. Taken alone, there's not much you can do because you don't know anything about s. (B is out)

Taken together: Since sign of s = t and sign of x = t: sign of t = s = x, and furthermore sign of y = x = t = s (from the question) All the signs of the variables are the same. So (-s,t) will be in the same quadrant of (-x,y), and therefore in the same quadrant of (-y, x) (as would (-t, s). --- Answer: C

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Re: Coordinate Geometry [#permalink]
21 May 2010, 15:13

If xy does not equal 0 and points (-x,y) ans (-y,x) are in the same quadrant of the xy-plane, is point (-s, t) in the same quadrant?

(1) st > 0 (2) xt > 0

Answer is C , However I prefer a different approach to solve this problem.

Use actual number to solve the probelm.

Given premise claim that sign of x and y must be same. So consider X= 5 and Y = 4. (-5,-4) and (-4,5) are in II quadrant. Consider X = -7 and Y = -8, (7,-8) and (8,-7) are in IV quadrant.

Statement 1 : Sign of s and t are same. Consider S = 2 , t = 3 , (-2, 3) is in II quadrant Consider S = -2, t = -3 ,( 2, -3) is in IV quadrant.

Statement 2: Sign of x and t are same. When X is + , t must be +. When X in -, t must be -.

Togather, we can say (-x,y) , (-y,x) and (-s, t) are in same quadrant : II or IV

Re: If xy does not equal 0 and points (-x,y) ans (-y,x) are in [#permalink]
13 Oct 2013, 14:53

Expert's post

jlgdr wrote:

marcusaurelius wrote:

If xy does not equal 0 and points (-x,y) ans (-y,x) are in the same quadrant of the xy-plane, is point (-s, t) in the same quadrant?

(1) st > 0 (2) xt > 0

OA= C

Please don't leave OA naked. Then it makes it hard for us to solve such a nice problem in real conditions. Cheers, J

If ab different from 0 and points (-a,b) and (-b,a) are in the same quadrant of the xy-plane, is point (-x,y) in the same quadrant?

The fact that points (-a,b) and (-b,a) are in the same quadrant means that a and b have the same sign. These points can be either in II quadrant, in case a and b are both positive, as (-a,b)=(-,+)=(-b,a) OR in IV quadrant, in case they are both negative, as (-a,b)=(+,-)=(-b,a) ("=" sign means here "in the same quadrant").

Now the point (-x,y) will be in the same quadrant if x has the same sign as a (or which is the same with b) AND y has the same sign as a (or which is the same with b). Or in other words if all four: a, b, x, and y have the same sign.

Note that, only knowing that x and y have the same sign won't be sufficient (meaning that x and ymust have the same sign but their sign must also match with the sign of a and b).

(1) xy>0 --> x and y have the same sign. Not sufficient. (2) ax>0 --> a and x have the same sign. But we know nothing about y, hence not sufficient.

(1)+(2) x and y have the same sign AND a and x have the same sign, hence all four a, b, x, and y have the same sign. Thus point (-x,y) is in the same quadrant as points (-a,b) and (-b,a). Sufficient.

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