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clearly a. 10 doesn't have a nice square...
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if d is a positive integer, is \(\sqrt{d}\) an integer ?

a . \(\sqrt{9d}\) is an integer

b. \(\sqrt{10d}\) is not an integer.


is oa correct???????? if then please prove....


Original answer is correct.

A. \(\sqrt{9d}\) is an integer: tells us 3 \(sqrt d\) is an integer. therefore \(sqrt d\)has to be an integer. If it is not, we will never get an integer value. Sufficient.

B. \(\sqrt{10d}\) is not an integer:

Case 1: Assume D to be 4
Case 2: Assume D to be 6

In both cases, \(sqrt (10D)\) will not be an integer (satisfies the condition)

Now in case 1, \(sqrt D\) is an integer but in case 2, \(sqrt D\) is not an integer. 2 different answers satisfy the condition. Not sufficient.

Answer A.
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Note that as d is a positive integer then \sqrt{d} is either a positive integer or an irrational number. Also note that the question basically asks whether d is a perfect square.

(1) \sqrt{9d} is an integer --> \sqrt{9d}=3*\sqrt{d}=integer --> \sqrt{d}={integer} (as discussed above because d is an integer \sqrt{d} can not equal to \frac{integer}{3}). Sufficient.


Why cant \sqrt{d} not be an irrational number ??
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Note that as d is a positive integer then \sqrt{d} is either a positive integer or an irrational number. Also note that the question basically asks whether d is a perfect square.

(1) \sqrt{9d} is an integer --> \sqrt{9d}=3*\sqrt{d}=integer --> \sqrt{d}={integer} (as discussed above because d is an integer \sqrt{d} can not equal to \frac{integer}{3}). Sufficient.


Why cant \sqrt{d} not be an irrational number ??


Because you are given that \(\sqrt{9d} = 3\sqrt{d}\) is an integer. Is it possible that \(3\sqrt{d}\) is an integer even though \(\sqrt{d}\) is an irrational number?
3*irrational number will still be an irrational number. Hence \(\sqrt{d}\) cannot be irrational.
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The DS statements on the GMAT have some special characteristics. This question suits as a great example on how to use these to your advantage.

One of these characteristics is: The statements never lie!
In other words: The statements cannot contradict each other!

On this particular question we find out that Statement 1 is sufficient, giving us the definite answer: "Yes, \(\sqrt{d}\) is an integer."

When moving onto Statement 2, remember that statements cannot contradict each other! We therefore know that Statement 2 will in some way give us the possibility of \(\sqrt{d}\) being an integer. So we do not need to check this explicitly for Statement 2.
We can move straight to searching for the possibility of \(\sqrt{d}\) NOT being an integer.
If we find ONE way that \(\sqrt{d}\) is not an integer, we know that the statement is insufficient!
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Note that as d is a positive integer then \sqrt{d} is either a positive integer or an irrational number. Also note that the question basically asks whether d is a perfect square.

(1) \sqrt{9d} is an integer --> \sqrt{9d}=3*\sqrt{d}=integer --> \sqrt{d}={integer} (as discussed above because d is an integer \sqrt{d} can not equal to \frac{integer}{3}). Sufficient.


Why cant \sqrt{d} not be an irrational number ??


Because you are given that \(\sqrt{9d} = 3\sqrt{d}\) is an integer. Is it possible that \(3\sqrt{d}\) is an integer even though \(\sqrt{d}\) is an irrational number?
3*irrational number will still be an irrational number. Hence \(\sqrt{d}\) cannot be irrational.



Hi KarishmaB / Everyone

Please help me with my approach to this question.

Let us say that d=2

1) √9d is an integer :

√9*2 will this result in an integer........answer is no
can √9*4 be an integer..... answer is yes ( here I have assumed d=4)

2) √10d is not an integer.

when d =2

The statement is true √10*2 is not an integer. The same goes with any value of d

So when the question is asking us Y/N and when we know that √10d is not an integer; This could also mean that d is not an integer, because the statement 2) is correct by itself.

Let me know your thoughts and how else I should be looking at this question.
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Hi KarishmaB / Everyone

Please help me with my approach to this question.

Let us say that d=2

1) √9d is an integer :

√9*2 will this result in an integer........answer is no
can √9*4 be an integer..... answer is yes ( here I have assumed d=4)


Note that d cannot be 2 here because √9d is an integer but √18 is not an integer.
√9d is same as 3 * √d and if this must be an integer then √d must be an integer.

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2) √10d is not an integer.

when d =2

The statement is true √10*2 is not an integer. The same goes with any value of d

So when the question is asking us Y/N and when we know that √10d is not an integer; This could also mean that d is not an integer, because the statement 2) is correct by itself.

Let me know your thoughts and how else I should be looking at this question.


Here d can be 2 or 4 or many other values. √20 is not an integer. √40 is not an integer etc.
but √d is not an integer when d = 2 but it is an integer when d = 4.
Hence this statement alone is not sufficient.

Answer (A)
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Anvesh99 wrote:


Hi KarishmaB / Everyone

Please help me with my approach to this question.

Let us say that d=2

1) √9d is an integer :

√9*2 will this result in an integer........answer is no
can √9*4 be an integer..... answer is yes ( here I have assumed d=4)


Note that d cannot be 2 here because √9d is an integer but √18 is not an integer.
√9d is same as 3 * √d and if this must be an integer then √d must be an integer.

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2) √10d is not an integer.

when d =2

The statement is true √10*2 is not an integer. The same goes with any value of d

So when the question is asking us Y/N and when we know that √10d is not an integer; This could also mean that d is not an integer, because the statement 2) is correct by itself.

Let me know your thoughts and how else I should be looking at this question.


Here d can be 2 or 4 or many other values. √20 is not an integer. √40 is not an integer etc.
but √d is not an integer when d = 2 but it is an integer when d = 4.
Hence this statement alone is not sufficient.

Answer (A)



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