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If m is an integer, is m odd? (1) m/2 is not an even integer. (2) m – 3 is an even integer.
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27 Mar 2012, 06:54
dzodzo85 wrote: If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is not an even integer. (2) m – 3 is an even integer.
Please explain this question further can some body please explain to me why A is INSUFFICIENT i see it this way given that select those items which make m/2 <> even so take m = 6, 10, -10, -14 etc they give 3,5,-5,-7 etc... so m is even , so is m odd is answered in NEGATIVE.....so this is sufficient to answer the question right? can some please explain why it is INSUFFICIENT
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harshavmrg wrote: dzodzo85 wrote: If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is not an even integer. (2) m – 3 is an even integer.
Please explain this question further can some body please explain to me why A is INSUFFICIENT i see it this way given that select those items which make m/2 <> even so take m = 6, 10, -10, -14 etc they give 3,5,-5,-7 etc... so m is even , so is m odd is answered in NEGATIVE.....so this is sufficient to answer the question right? can some please explain why it is INSUFFICIENT Please read the solution above: For m/2 not to be an even integer m can be even (10) as well as odd (5).
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Bunuel wrote: If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is not an even integer --> \frac{m}{2}\neq{even} could occur when m is odd as well as when m is even (10 and 5 for example) --> \frac{m}{2}=\frac{10}{2}=5\neq{even} and \frac{m}{2}=\frac{5}{2}=2.5\neq{even}. Not sufficient.
(2) m-3 is an even integer --> m-odd=even --> m=even+odd=odd. Sufficient.
Answer: B. Isn't \frac{m}{2} said to be an integer (though not even)? So that \frac{5}{2} is not the case. Posted from GMAT ToolKit
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Rigorous wrote: Bunuel wrote: If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is not an even integer --> \frac{m}{2}\neq{even} could occur when m is odd as well as when m is even (10 and 5 for example) --> \frac{m}{2}=\frac{10}{2}=5\neq{even} and \frac{m}{2}=\frac{5}{2}=2.5\neq{even}. Not sufficient.
(2) m-3 is an even integer --> m-odd=even --> m=even+odd=odd. Sufficient.
Answer: B. Isn't \frac{m}{2} said to be an integer (though not even)? So that \frac{5}{2} is not the case. Posted from GMAT ToolKitNot so. (1) just says that m/2 is not an even integer, from which you can no way assume that m/2 is an odd integer, it can not be an integer at all.
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(1) m/2 is not an even integer
(2) m-3 is an even integer
I was a bit confused about what statement 1 even meant to be honest. The correct answer is B (only state 2 being sufficient). Can someone help me understand what statement 1 is saying... as well as why it is insufficient? Thanks!
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Re: If M is an integer, is m odd? [#permalink]
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Hi there, m/2 is not an even integer This means that if you divide the variable m (which represents some number) that the result will not be an even (a number divisible by 2) integer (a whole number: -1,-2,0,1,2...). So M cannot be the number 4 because 4/2 =2 which is an even integer. m could be 5 because 5/2 = 2.5 which is not an integer nor is it even. M could be 6 because 6/2 =3 which is an integer but is not even. So the main point of this statement is that there are two possibilities for m: m is either an even number with only ONE 2 as a factor (2, 6, 14...) or m is odd. Therefore the statement is insufficient because m could be an even number or an odd number.I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any more advise on this. HG.
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Re: If m is an integer, is m odd? [#permalink]
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For fact statement 1, take (m/2)=3,7,5 etc .. you get all values of "m" as even. So your ans to the problem statement is a NO. Now take, m/2=1.5 Thus here we see that m=odd, hence a Yes. So statement A is not sufficient.
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Number Properties related question [#permalink]
25 Apr 2013, 19:16
Hey guys,
Can anybody explain me why the following is B?
If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is NOT an even integer (2) m - 3 is an even integer.
My thought process was:
(1) Since m/2 is NOT an even integer, then => it IS an odd integer. subsequently ODD * 2 = EVEN. Sufficient
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ahatoval wrote: Hey guys,
Can anybody explain me why the following is B?
If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is NOT an even integer (2) m - 3 is an even integer.
My thought process was:
(1) Since m/2 is NOT an even integer, then => it IS an odd integer. subsequently ODD * 2 = EVEN. Sufficient
Many thanks, Hi ahatoval, this is a common mistake the GMAT likes to exploit, so it's good to have a complete understanding of it. The key is keeping track of what must be an integer, and what doesn't have to be. Statement 2 is correct because m has to be an integer, so any odd integer -3 (or -5 or -7) would be even. Sufficient. You seem to be more concerned with statement 1. This statement tells us that m is an integer, but that m/2 is not an even integer. This is not the same thing as being an odd integer. Let's look at values of m/2 for different m's m=1 --) m/2 = 0.5 m=2 --) m/2 = 1 m=3 --) m/2 = 1.5 m=4 --) m/2 = 2 ... pattern repeats Therefore, if m/2 is not an even integer, then m=4 is excluded from the list of possibilities. This leaves m=1, m=2 and m=3. M/2 can therefore be an odd integer or a non-integer. Since we have examples of both, we cannot conclude with certainty whether m is an odd integer, it can be either 1 or 2 or 3 (or 5 or 6 or 7...) The assumption you make that leads you down the rabbit hole on this question is that m/2 must be an integer. This is not stated in the question and easily demonstrated to be false with a few small examples. On Data Sufficiency, it's often a good idea to try a few numbers and see if you can discern a pattern. Hope this helps! -Ron
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VeritasPrepRon wrote: ahatoval wrote: Hey guys,
Can anybody explain me why the following is B?
If m is an integer, is m odd?
(1) m/2 is NOT an even integer (2) m - 3 is an even integer.
My thought process was:
(1) Since m/2 is NOT an even integer, then => it IS an odd integer. subsequently ODD * 2 = EVEN. Sufficient
Many thanks, Hi ahatoval, this is a common mistake the GMAT likes to exploit, so it's good to have a complete understanding of it. The key is keeping track of what must be an integer, and what doesn't have to be. Statement 2 is correct because m has to be an integer, so any odd integer -3 (or -5 or -7) would be even. Sufficient. You seem to be more concerned with statement 1. This statement tells us that m is an integer, but that m/2 is not an even integer. This is not the same thing as being an odd integer. Let's look at values of m/2 for different m's m=1 --) m/2 = 0.5 m=2 --) m/2 = 1 m=3 --) m/2 = 1.5 m=4 --) m/2 = 2 ... pattern repeats Therefore, if m/2 is not an even integer, then m=4 is excluded from the list of possibilities. This leaves m=1, m=2 and m=3. M/2 can therefore be an odd integer or a non-integer. Since we have examples of both, we cannot conclude with certainty whether m is an odd integer, it can be either 1 or 2 or 3 (or 5 or 6 or 7...) The assumption you make that leads you down the rabbit hole on this question is that m/2 must be an integer. This is not stated in the question and easily demonstrated to be false with a few small examples. On Data Sufficiency, it's often a good idea to try a few numbers and see if you can discern a pattern. Hope this helps! -Ron Thanks, Ron .  Totally makes sense.
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exploringm wrote: (1) m/2 is not an even integer
(2) m-3 is an even integer
I was a bit confused about what statement 1 even meant to be honest. The correct answer is B (only state 2 being sufficient). Can someone help me understand what statement 1 is saying... as well as why it is insufficient? Thanks! in my opinion,m/2 is not an even integer means that m/2 could be an odd integer,but also can not be an integer at all, e.g. a decimal
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fritz wrote: exploringm wrote: (1) m/2 is not an even integer
(2) m-3 is an even integer
I was a bit confused about what statement 1 even meant to be honest. The correct answer is B (only state 2 being sufficient). Can someone help me understand what statement 1 is saying... as well as why it is insufficient? Thanks! in my opinion,m/2 is not an even integer means that m/2 could be an odd integer,but also can not be an integer at all, e.g. a decimal Yes You're right ...................
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