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If m, r, x and y are positive, the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio x to y?

Is \(\frac{m}{r}=\frac{x}{y}\)? Is \(my=rx\)?

(1) the ratio of m to y is equal to the ratio of x to r --> \(\frac{m}{y}=\frac{x}{r}\) --> \(mr=xy\). Not sufficient.

(2) the ratio of m + x to r + y is equal to the ratio of x to y --> \(\frac{m+x}{r+y}=\frac{x}{y}\) --> cross multiply --> \(my+xy=rx+xy\) --> \(my=rx\). Sufficient.

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If m, r, x, and y are positive is the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio of x to y? 1) the ratio of m to y is equal to the ratio of x to r 2) the ratio of m + x to r + y is equal to the ratio of x to y

A. statement 1 alone is sufficient but statement 2 is not sufficient B. statement 2 alone is sufficient but statement 1 is not sufficient C. Both statements Together are sufficient but neither is sufficient alone D. Each Statement alone is sufficient E. Statements 1 and 2 Together are not sufficient

Can anyone help me understand why 1 is insuff? I understand that when you cross multiply 1, you get mr=xy, while the question wants to see xr=my, which 2 provides. Still, I don't see the difference between mr=xy and xr=my.

Sorry for the poor explanation, I just don't understand why 2 is insuff.

Can anyone help me understand why 1 is insuff? I understand that when you cross multiply 1, you get mr=xy, while the question wants to see xr=my, which 2 provides. Still, I don't see the difference between mr=xy and xr=my.

Sorry for the poor explanation, I just don't understand why 2 is insuff.

Try digits. Let m=5 r=4 x=2 y=10

mr=xy (5*4=2*10), but xr not equal to my (2*4 and 5*10).

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is the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio of x to y? or is m/r=x/y or is m/x=r/y Statement 1: m/y=x/r or m/x= y/r. So NO. Sufficient. Can Someone please tell, what am i doing wrong for statement 1.

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is the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio of x to y? or is m/r=x/y or is m/x=r/y Statement 1: m/y=x/r or m/x= y/r. So NO. Sufficient. Can Someone please tell, what am i doing wrong for statement 1.

I think you are assuming that r/y can never equal y/r. If y = 1, r = 1, then r/y = y/r.

Such values can show that Statement 1 is sufficient to answer the equation. However, for some other values, Statement 1 will not be sufficient to answer the question. That is why it is INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2, on the other hand, will always be sufficient because after cross multiplication, the xy will cancel out from both sides of the equation, giving us only the equation my = xr. This is sufficient to answer the question regardless of the values that each of the variables takes. That is why it is SUFFICIENT.

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Bunuel wrote:

If m, r, x and y are positive, the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio x to y?

Is \(\frac{m}{r}=\frac{x}{y}\)? Is \(my=rx\)?

(1) the ratio of m to y is equal to the ratio of x to r --> \(\frac{m}{y}=\frac{x}{r}\) --> \(mr=xy\). Not sufficient.

(2) the ratio of m + x to r + y is equal to the ratio of x to y --> \(\frac{m+x}{r+y}=\frac{x}{y}\) --> cross multiply --> \(my+xy=rx+xy\) --> \(my=rx\). Sufficient.

If m, r, x and y are positive, the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio x to y?

Is \(\frac{m}{r}=\frac{x}{y}\)? Is \(my=rx\)?

(1) the ratio of m to y is equal to the ratio of x to r --> \(\frac{m}{y}=\frac{x}{r}\) --> \(mr=xy\). Not sufficient.

(2) the ratio of m + x to r + y is equal to the ratio of x to y --> \(\frac{m+x}{r+y}=\frac{x}{y}\) --> cross multiply --> \(my+xy=rx+xy\) --> \(my=rx\). Sufficient.

Can you please post a screenshot showing D as the answer? Anyway, the correct answer is B, not D, no matter what the source is saying.
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14 Sep 2015, 02:46

Bunuel wrote:

hdwnkr wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

If m, r, x and y are positive, the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio x to y?

Is \(\frac{m}{r}=\frac{x}{y}\)? Is \(my=rx\)?

(1) the ratio of m to y is equal to the ratio of x to r --> \(\frac{m}{y}=\frac{x}{r}\) --> \(mr=xy\). Not sufficient.

(2) the ratio of m + x to r + y is equal to the ratio of x to y --> \(\frac{m+x}{r+y}=\frac{x}{y}\) --> cross multiply --> \(my+xy=rx+xy\) --> \(my=rx\). Sufficient.

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03 Oct 2015, 08:51

I too have my doubts related to first option being insufficient. All we need to answer in yes or no way.. Then why statement 1 is insufficient??\ Please provide an explanation...

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hdwnkr wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

If m, r, x and y are positive, the ratio of m to r equal to the ratio x to y?

Is \(\frac{m}{r}=\frac{x}{y}\)? Is \(my=rx\)?

(1) the ratio of m to y is equal to the ratio of x to r --> \(\frac{m}{y}=\frac{x}{r}\) --> \(mr=xy\). Not sufficient.

(2) the ratio of m + x to r + y is equal to the ratio of x to y --> \(\frac{m+x}{r+y}=\frac{x}{y}\) --> cross multiply --> \(my+xy=rx+xy\) --> \(my=rx\). Sufficient.

If GMAT prep has given the answer as D then it should be because statement 1 proves the following condition as false and statement 2 proves it as true so in that case both are sufficient . however it is quite unlikely that should be the ideal scenario.

Secondly 1 should be wrong because it is a yes no situation. It will be true if all the 4 variables are equal and will be false otherwise.

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