|
Author |
Message |
|
TAGS:
|
|
|
GMAT Club team member
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 11519
Followers: 1795
Kudos [?]:
9546
[0], given: 826
|
If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
18 Sep 2012, 03:26
Question Stats:
61% (01:44) correct
38% (00:54) wrong based on 10 sessions
The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition - Quantitative Questions ProjectIf p_1 and p_2 are the populations and r_1 and r_2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts? (1) p_1>p_2(2) r_2>r_1Practice Questions Question: 43 Page: 278 Difficulty: 600 GMAT Club is introducing a new project: The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition - Quantitative Questions ProjectEach week we'll be posting several questions from The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition and then after couple of days we'll provide Official Answer (OA) to them along with a slution. We'll be glad if you participate in development of this project: 1. Please provide your solutions to the questions; 2. Please vote for the best solutions by pressing Kudos button; 3. Please vote for the questions themselves by pressing Kudos button; 4. Please share your views on difficulty level of the questions, so that we have most precise evaluation. Thank you!
_________________
PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW: 11 Rules for Posting!!!
RESOURCES: [GMAT MATH BOOK]; 1. Triangles; 2. Polygons; 3. Coordinate Geometry; 4. Factorials; 5. Circles; 6. Number Theory
COLLECTION OF QUESTIONS: PS: 1. Tough and Tricky questions; 2. Hard questions; 3. Hard questions part 2; 4. Standard deviation; 5. Tough Problem Solving Questions With Solutions; 6. Probability and Combinations Questions With Solutions; 7 Tough and tricky exponents and roots questions; 8 12 Easy Pieces (or not?); 9 Bakers' Dozen; 10 Algebra set. NEW!!!
DS: 1. DS tough questions; 2. DS tough questions part 2; 3. DS tough questions part 3; 4. DS Standard deviation; 5. Inequalities; 6. 700+ GMAT Data Sufficiency Questions With Explanations; 7 Tough and tricky exponents and roots questions; 8 The Discreet Charm of the DS ; 9 Devil's Dozen!!!; 10 Number Properties set. NEW!!!
 What are GMAT Club Tests? 25 extra-hard Quant Tests
Find out what's new at GMAT Club - latest features and updates
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Director
Joined: 22 Mar 2011
Posts: 608
WE: Science (Education)
Followers: 43
Kudos [?]:
267
[1] , given: 43
|
Re: If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
18 Sep 2012, 05:41
1
This post received KUDOS
Bunuel wrote: The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition - Quantitative Questions ProjectIf p_1 and p_2 are the populations and r_1 and r_2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts? (1) p_1>p_2(2) r_2>r_1Practice Questions Question: 43 Page: 278 Difficulty: 600 GMAT Club is introducing a new project: The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition - Quantitative Questions ProjectEach week we'll be posting several questions from The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition and then after couple of days we'll provide Official Answer (OA) to them along with a slution. We'll be glad if you participate in development of this project: 1. Please provide your solutions to the questions; 2. Please vote for the best solutions by pressing Kudos button; 3. Please vote for the questions themselves by pressing Kudos button; 4. Please share your views on difficulty level of the questions, so that we have most precise evaluation. Thank you! The question asks to compare to fractions: \frac{p_1}{r_1} and \frac{p_2}{r_2}, where all 4 numbers are positive integers. (1) Not sufficient, because we don't have any information about the denominators of the two fractions to be compared. For example, we can choose p_1=10r_1 and p_2=100r_2 or the other way around. (2) Again, not sufficient, because now we don't have any information on the numerators. We can choose again the same values for p_1 and p_2 as above. (1) and (2) together: We know that the numerator of the first fraction \frac{p_1}{r_1} is greater than the numerator of the second fraction \frac{p_2}{r_2}. In addition, the denominator of the first fraction is smaller than the denominator of the second fraction. Therefore, the first fraction is greater than the second, because \frac{p_1}{r_1}>\frac{p_2}{r_1}>\frac{p_2}{r_2}. Between two positive fractions with the same numerator, the largest fraction is that with the smallest denominator. Answer C.
_________________
PhD in Applied Mathematics Love GMAT Quant questions and running.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Senior Manager
Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Posts: 280
Schools: Harvard, Columbia, Stern, Booth, LSB,
Followers: 2
Kudos [?]:
129
[1] , given: 216
|
Re: If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
18 Sep 2012, 05:56
1
This post received KUDOS
If p_1 and p_2 are the populations and r_1 and r_2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts? (1) p_1>p_2 (2) r_2>r_1 The Question can be restated as which one is greater p_1.r_2 or p_2.r_11) No info is given regarding the ratio of r_2 & r_1 ---->Insufficient 2) No info is given regarding the ratio of p_2 & p_1 ---->Insufficient 1+2) We can easily say that p_1.r_2 is greater than p_2.r_1-->Sufficient Answer C Note:- If the option (2) had been r_2<r_1 rather than r_2>r_1, then the answer would have been EHope it helps.
_________________
If you like my Question/Explanation or the contribution, Kindly appreciate by pressing KUDOS. Kudos always maximizes GMATCLUB worth -Game Theory
|
|
|
|
|
|
Manager
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Followers: 0
Kudos [?]:
18
[1] , given: 5
|
Re: If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
18 Sep 2012, 10:25
1
This post received KUDOS
Bunuel wrote: The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition - Quantitative Questions ProjectIf p_1 and p_2 are the populations and r_1 and r_2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts? (1) p_1>p_2(2) r_2>r_1Practice Questions Question: 43 Page: 278 Difficulty: 600 GMAT Club is introducing a new project: The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition - Quantitative Questions ProjectEach week we'll be posting several questions from The Official Guide for GMAT® Review, 13th Edition and then after couple of days we'll provide Official Answer (OA) to them along with a slution. We'll be glad if you participate in development of this project: 1. Please provide your solutions to the questions; 2. Please vote for the best solutions by pressing Kudos button; 3. Please vote for the questions themselves by pressing Kudos button; 4. Please share your views on difficulty level of the questions, so that we have most precise evaluation. Thank you! Need to find is P1/R1 > P2/R2 Option 1: P1>p2 only by judging neumerator we can not conclude which ratio is greator the other. therefore Option 1 is not sufficient to answer the question. Option 2: R2>R1 again the same thing only by looking at the denominator we can not say that which ratio is greator. therefor Option 2 is also not sufficient to answer the question. by combining both the option it is coming that Neumerator for the P1/R1 is greator than P2/R2 and Denominator of P1/R1 is lesser than the Denominator of P2/R2. therefor P1/R1 is greator the P2/R2. Option 'C" is Answer.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Senior Manager
Joined: 13 Aug 2012
Posts: 468
Followers: 12
Kudos [?]:
74
[1] , given: 11
|
Re: If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
20 Sep 2012, 00:24
1
This post received KUDOS
Is P1/R1 > P2/R2, or vise versa? let's manipulate the inequality to a simpler form. P1R2 > P2R1 means P1/R1 is the greater ratio?
(1) P1 > P2, we can't answer the question because we need to know R1,R2. INSUFFICIENT (2) r2 > R1, we can't answer the question because we need to know P1, P2. INSUFFICIENT.
Together, let's multiple the inequalities. p1r2 > p2r1', so we now know that P1/r1 is the greater ratio.
answer: C
|
|
|
|
|
|
GMAT Club team member
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 11519
Followers: 1795
Kudos [?]:
9546
[0], given: 826
|
Re: If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
18 Sep 2012, 03:26
SOLUTIONIf p_1 and p_2 are the populations and r_1 and r_2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts?Question asks whether \frac{p_1}{r_1}>\frac{p_2}{r_2}. Or, since the numbers are positive, we are asked to determine whether p_1*r_2>p_2*r_1. (1) p_1>p_2. No info about r_1 and r_2. Not sufficient. (2) r_2>r_1. No info about p_1 and p_2. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the multiples on left hand side are greater than the respective multiples on the right hand side then p_1*r_2>p_2*r_1. Sufficient. Answer: C.
_________________
PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW: 11 Rules for Posting!!!
RESOURCES: [GMAT MATH BOOK]; 1. Triangles; 2. Polygons; 3. Coordinate Geometry; 4. Factorials; 5. Circles; 6. Number Theory
COLLECTION OF QUESTIONS: PS: 1. Tough and Tricky questions; 2. Hard questions; 3. Hard questions part 2; 4. Standard deviation; 5. Tough Problem Solving Questions With Solutions; 6. Probability and Combinations Questions With Solutions; 7 Tough and tricky exponents and roots questions; 8 12 Easy Pieces (or not?); 9 Bakers' Dozen; 10 Algebra set. NEW!!!
DS: 1. DS tough questions; 2. DS tough questions part 2; 3. DS tough questions part 3; 4. DS Standard deviation; 5. Inequalities; 6. 700+ GMAT Data Sufficiency Questions With Explanations; 7 Tough and tricky exponents and roots questions; 8 The Discreet Charm of the DS ; 9 Devil's Dozen!!!; 10 Number Properties set. NEW!!!
 What are GMAT Club Tests? 25 extra-hard Quant Tests
Find out what's new at GMAT Club - latest features and updates
|
|
|
|
|
|
GMAT Club team member
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 11519
Followers: 1795
Kudos [?]:
9546
[0], given: 826
|
Re: If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
21 Sep 2012, 04:03
SOLUTIONIf p_1 and p_2 are the populations and r_1 and r_2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts?Question asks whether \frac{p_1}{r_1}>\frac{p_2}{r_2}. Or, since the numbers are positive, we are asked to determine whether p_1*r_2>p_2*r_1. (1) p_1>p_2. No info about r_1 and r_2. Not sufficient. (2) r_2>r_1. No info about p_1 and p_2. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the multiples on left hand side are greater than the respective multiples on the right hand side then p_1*r_2>p_2*r_1. Sufficient. Answer: C. Kudos points given to everyone with correct solution. Let me know if I missed someone.
_________________
PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW: 11 Rules for Posting!!!
RESOURCES: [GMAT MATH BOOK]; 1. Triangles; 2. Polygons; 3. Coordinate Geometry; 4. Factorials; 5. Circles; 6. Number Theory
COLLECTION OF QUESTIONS: PS: 1. Tough and Tricky questions; 2. Hard questions; 3. Hard questions part 2; 4. Standard deviation; 5. Tough Problem Solving Questions With Solutions; 6. Probability and Combinations Questions With Solutions; 7 Tough and tricky exponents and roots questions; 8 12 Easy Pieces (or not?); 9 Bakers' Dozen; 10 Algebra set. NEW!!!
DS: 1. DS tough questions; 2. DS tough questions part 2; 3. DS tough questions part 3; 4. DS Standard deviation; 5. Inequalities; 6. 700+ GMAT Data Sufficiency Questions With Explanations; 7 Tough and tricky exponents and roots questions; 8 The Discreet Charm of the DS ; 9 Devil's Dozen!!!; 10 Number Properties set. NEW!!!
 What are GMAT Club Tests? 25 extra-hard Quant Tests
Find out what's new at GMAT Club - latest features and updates
|
|
|
|
|
|
Intern
Joined: 15 Nov 2012
Posts: 3
Followers: 0
Kudos [?]:
0
[0], given: 1
|
If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
29 Dec 2012, 12:40
I took this approach 1. reads P1>P2 and rewrote 2. as R1<R2
Each statement by itself is not sufficient. Combining- then P1/R1 (greater numerator/lower denominator ) > P2/R2 (lower numerator/greater denominator) will be true.
Hence C.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Intern
Joined: 21 Mar 2009
Posts: 21
Followers: 0
Kudos [?]:
7
[0], given: 0
|
If p1 and p2 are the populations and r1 and r2 are the [#permalink]
31 Dec 2012, 12:10
metallicafan wrote: Which way is better to solve this question? Using algebra or testing with some values or numbers? Why? I used numbers, but OG used algebra.
If P1 and P2 are the populations and R1 and R2 are the numbers of representatives of District 1 and District 2, respectively, the ratio of the population to the number of representatives is greater for which of the two districts? (1) P1 > P2 (2) R2 > R1 Testing with Numbers if one can quickly come up with a yes and another no is always helpful on GMAT. But key is to find a contrast. Also it will help if a pattern emerges in a few steps. Usually GMAT doesn't something that holds for x upto say 20 terms and fails on 23rd.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Intern
Joined: 09 Oct 2012
Posts: 6
Location: United States
Concentration: Strategy, Finance
GMAT 1: 590 Q34 V38
GPA: 3.27
WE: Analyst (Energy and Utilities)
Followers: 0
Kudos [?]:
5
[0], given: 8
|
If P1 and P2 are the populations and R1 and R2 are the numbers o [#permalink]
07 Feb 2013, 10:57
ksrajgmat wrote: Can some one please explain the solution to this problem. I used substitution for this problem. St 1 gives us that P1 > P2, for ease of math I subbed P1 = 100 P2 = 50 --> This is NS to solve the problem since we don't know how many Reps there are for each district & therefore cannot find the ratio. --> Eliminate A & D St 2 gives us that R2 > R1, for ease of math I subbed R1 = 10 R2 = 20 --> This is NS also, since we don't know the population --> Eliminate B Combining the 2 statements we see that P1 > P2 and R2 > R1 -- at this point, even without substitution you should intuitively know that a lower population with a higher pop count will give you the biggest ratio (aka the higher percentage), but just to make sure I will use the same numbers I substituted above. So, R1/P1 = 10/100 = 1/10 (or 10%...whichever form is easiest for you to work) and R2/P2 = 20/50 = 2/5 (or 40%)...Sufficient....so C As a reminder, with DS you don't actually have to solve the problem - you just need to be able to recognize whether you have enough information to solve it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
If P1 and P2 are the populations and R1 and R2 are the numbers o
[#permalink]
07 Feb 2013, 10:57
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|