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If there are more than two numbers in a certain list, is each of the numbers in the list equal to 0?

(1) The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.
(2) The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.

Am unable to understand how the answer is B
from II u can have a positive and a negative number totaling to 0 eg. 1+(-1).
However if we combine both statements the value of all elements is 0.. Pl Help
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devinawilliam83 wrote:
if there are more than 2 numbers in a list. is each of the number in the list equal to 0?
I. The product of any 2 numbers in the list is equal to 0
II. The sum of any 2 numbers in the list is 0

Am unable to understand how the answer is B
from II u can have a positive and a negative number totaling to 0 eg. 1+(-1).
However if we combine both statements the value of all elements is 0.. Pl Help

If there are more than two numbers in a certain list, is each of the numbers in the list equal to 0?

Note that we are told that there are more than 2 numbers in the list.

(1) The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0 --> it certainly possible all numbers to equal to 0 but it's also possible one number to be different from 0 and all other numbers to equal to 0 (in this case the product of ANY two numbers in the list will also be equal to 0). Not sufficient.

(2) The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0 --> as there are more than 2 numbers in the list then all numbers must equal to 0 (if we were not told that there are more than 2 numbers in the list then it would be possible to have a list like {-1, 1} but as there are more than 2 numbers then in order the sum of ANY two numbers in the list to be equal to 0 all numbers must equal to zero). Sufficient.

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If there are more than two numbers in a certain list, is each of the numbers in the list equal to 0?
(1) The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.
(2) The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.

When I saw the phrase, "more than two numbers in a list", I immediately thought I am going to pick 3-number set. Not more. Reading on, "does each number equal to 0"? So the 3-number set I picked was {0,0,1}.

Option 1 says, "the product of any two numbers equal to 0". In my list, it does. But right away I figured that, because the other two numbers are 0, the product of any two numbers will always be 0. INSUFFICIENT.

Option 2 says, "the sum of any two numbers equal to 0". Aha! With this condition, the 0's in the set will not force the result to be 0. So, only B. SUFFICIENT.
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If there are more than two numbers in a certain list, is each of the numbers in the list equal to 0?

(1)The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0
(2)The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0

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we cant tell whether all set members are 0 or not because if the set contains odd number of elements then for 1 to be true then all elements must be zero but if the number of elements is even , we can ve one element as an intiger for example that is larger or less than 0 and the statment still will hold true ... insuff

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this could only hold true if all elemnts are 0's
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13 Jul 2013, 09:11
devinawilliam83 wrote:
If there are more than two numbers in a certain list, is each of the numbers in the list equal to 0?

(1) The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.
(2) The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.

Am unable to understand how the answer is B
from II u can have a positive and a negative number totaling to 0 eg. 1+(-1).
However if we combine both statements the value of all elements is 0.. Pl Help

B is the answer. If it is the condition that any of the two numbers have sum zero, then they all have to be zero only.
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devinawilliam83 wrote:
If there are more than two numbers in a certain list, is each of the numbers in the list equal to 0?

(1) The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.
(2) The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.

Am unable to understand how the answer is B
from II u can have a positive and a negative number totaling to 0 eg. 1+(-1).
However if we combine both statements the value of all elements is 0.. Pl Help

It is important to understand what the statements say here. They each say ANY 2 numbers, which means that no matter how many numbers you have and which of these numbers you take, you always get the result as stated in the statements. Let's take a look:

(1) The product of any 2 numbers = 0. If you have 100 numbers and 99 are 0 and 1 is not you will ahve any 2 numbers = 0. If you have 100 = 0 you get the same result. IS.
(2) The sum of any 2 numbers = 0. This can only mean that every number = 0. You are right that 1+ (-1) = 0 bit if you have a third number, e.g. 0 or 3 or 9. you will get a result different from 0. Hence the answer can only be that all the numbers are 0s. Hence B.
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What if there are four numbers. -1,-3 ,+1,+3. SUM is zero but each number is not.
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rahuljain01408@gmail.com wrote:
What if there are four numbers. -1,-3 ,+1,+3. SUM is zero but each number is not.

The second statement says that "The sum of ANY two numbers in the list is equal to 0", which is not true for your list.
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