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If you use -1/2, it works, so at first you might think the answer is clearly b), but "must be true about X" also means "must ALWAYS be true about X". If you use +1/2 (which is > -1 as in answer B) it doesn't work.
1/2 over 1/2 = 1 < x which is 1/2 so you get 1 < 1/2 and that's not true.
So answer a MUST ALWAYS be true because only positive X over abs(x) = 1 and X > 1, it will always be greater than 1 (which is x/|x| when x is positive).
Does this condense the other thread?
nmohindru wrote:
If X/|X| < X Which of the following must be true about X ?
a) X>1
b) X>-1
c) |X| < 1
d) |X| = 1
e) |X|^2 > 1
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the question is If x / |x| < x. so we have to consider only those values of x for which this inequalty is true and what are those values 1. when x is between -1 and 0 2. when x is more than 1
lets call these conditions our universe.
Now the question is for all values of x (in our universe) which of the following is true option B, x > -1, has both conditions 1 and 2
now you may say what about x = 1/2 .... that wasnt even part of our universe... so even if x = 1/2 is satisfying option B and not the question stem, we dont have to worry... becuase we are not supposed to take it as an example ...
for all values of x in our universe, option B is ALWAYS true... Option A is not always true...
Because the question states what MUST be true, I think the answer has to be A. We can't select only our "universe" of numbers that satisfy the selection. If the answer, like in B, says X > -1, then every single number greater than -1 must satisfy the inequality and that is not the case.
I certainly agree that the "universe" must be -1 < X < 0 and 1 < x. Answer B defines one "universe" as all numbers that are greater than -1. Answer B includes all numbers between 0 and 1 which do not satisfy the inequality; therefore, B must not always be true. The answer should be A. I disagree with the OA.
nmohindru wrote:
If X/|X| < X Which of the following must be true about X ?
X>1
X>-1
|X| < 1
|X| = 1
|X|^2 > 1
_________________
------------------------------------ J Allen Morris **I'm pretty sure I'm right, but then again, I'm just a guy with his head up his a$$.
guys i beg to differ.. i'll try to explain myself again...
our universe is defined in this line, if x/|x| < x this is given ... x only exits if it follows this condition ... if soemthing doesnt follow it then, its not x ... its y, may be z (doesnt matter) ...
if S is a set of possible values of x that will satisfy our condition x/|x| < x S = [ -0.9, -0.8, -0.7, ....... -0.1, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 ....... upto infinite]
we have to find an answer that will always be true for all values of x,
lets see A, x > 1, this statement is not true for x = -0.9, -0.8 ..... -0.1
check B x > -1, this statement will "always" be true for all x ... clearly B is the answer...
i see your point that x = 0.5 will not satisfy the question condition, but thats the whole point 0.5 is not even x, its y but if you select A, you are leaving some valid values of x.
If X/|X| < X Which of the following must be true about X ?
X>1
X>-1
|X| < 1
|X| = 1
|X|^2 > 1
For me it is disputable. I sometime go with B and sometime with A. B is broader than A but B again is not always a true case where as A is always true.
if we pay detail attention to MUST on "Which if the following must be true about X", it should be A because B is not a "must" true. _________________
If X/|X| < X Which of the following must be true about X ?
X>1
X>-1
|X| < 1
|X| = 1
|X|^2 > 1
For me it is disputable. I sometime go with B and sometime with A. B is broader than A but B again is not always a true case where as A is always true.
if we pay detail attention to MUST on "Which if the following must be true about X", it should be A because B is not a "must" true.
Please go through my earlier posts and give me a value of x for which B is not true, i dont think you can find one ....
I'm pretty sure Durgesh has already explained his answer convincingly, but just in case, I'll present a different problem:
If x is positive, what must be true?
I) x > 10 II) x > -10 III) x > 0
Of course, III) says exactly 'x is positive', so III) must be true. But if x is positive, x is obviously larger than -10. II) must also be true. I) doesn't need to be true; x could be 4, or 7, for example.
The same situation applies with the question that began this thread. We know that either -1 < x < 0, or x > 1. What must be true? Well, "x > 1" does not need to be true. We know that x might be -0.5, for example. On the other hand, "x > -1" absolutely must be true: if x satisfies the inequality x/|x| < x, then x is certainly larger than -1. If we had been asked whether "x > -1,000,000" must be true, the answer would also be yes. The question did not ask "What is the solution set of "x/|x| < x"; nor did it ask "For which values of x is x/|x| < x true?". _________________
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If you use -1/2, it works, so at first you might think the answer is clearly b), but "must be true about X" also means "must ALWAYS be true about X". If you use +1/2 (which is > -1 as in answer B) it doesn't work.
1/2 over 1/2 = 1 < x which is 1/2 so you get 1 < 1/2 and that's not true.
So answer a MUST ALWAYS be true because only positive X over abs(x) = 1 and X > 1, it will always be greater than 1 (which is x/|x| when x is positive).
Does this condense the other thread?
nmohindru wrote:
If X/|X| < X Which of the following must be true about X ?
a) X>1
b) X>-1
c) |X| < 1
d) |X| = 1
e) |X|^2 > 1
I think A is the right answer OA may be wrong because if it says X>-1 then the given inequality will not be true for x=0. and this is not mentioned that x=!0 so that we can ignore x=0 while considering X>-1.
that is not even defined as x, our x is defined in the first line .....
Gotta. Now I believe this a classical example of gmat questions. nice one....
if x/lxl < x, x can not be 0, 1, and any +ve fraction. x is any value > -1 except 0, 1, and any +ve fraction.
remember the condition "if x/lxl < x"
its been a looming question for me since long time i.e. why it is not A?
thanks durgesh79.
Hi, A must say that a is the answer Nothing like x=!0,1and +ve fraction is given If these conditions have been given for x then for broader answer B could be the right answer
If \(\frac{x}{|x|}<x\) which of the following must be true about \(x\)?
(A) \(x>1\)
(B) \(x>-1\)
(C) \(|x|<1\)
(D) \(|x|=1\)
(E) \(|x|^2>1\)
This question was well explained by Durgesh and Ian Stewart, but since there are still some doubts, I'll try to add my 2 cents.
First of all let's solve this inequality step by step and see what is the solution for it, or in other words let's see in which ranges this inequality holds true.
Two cases for \(\frac{x}{|x|}<x\):
A. \(x<0\) --> \(|x|=-x\) --> \(\frac{x}{-x}<x\) --> \(-1<x\) --> \(-1<x<0\);
B. \(x>0\) --> \(|x|=x\) --> \(\frac{x}{x}<x\) --> \(1<x\).
So given inequality holds true in the ranges: \(-1<x<0\) and \(x>1\). Which means that \(x\) can take values only from these ranges.
------{-1}xxxx{0}----{1}xxxxxx
Now, we are asked which of the following must be true about \(x\). Option A can not be ALWAYS true because \(x\) can be from the range \(-1<x<0\), eg \(-\frac{1}{2}\) and \(x=-\frac{1}{2}<1\).
Only option which is ALWAYS true is B. ANY \(x\) from the ranges \(-1<x<0\) and \(x>1\) will definitely be more the \(-1\), all "red", possible x-es are to the right of -1, which means that all possible x-es are more than -1.
Re: If x/|x|<x which of the following must be true about x? [#permalink]
19 Dec 2011, 14:20
Typical GMAT nonsense. A lot of people seem to talk themselves into a solution but in mathematics, there are no GMAT-truths. x>-1 must not be true, since it ignores the fact that 0 does not fulfill the requirement.
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20 Dec 2011, 02:08
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myfish wrote:
Typical GMAT nonsense. A lot of people seem to talk themselves into a solution but in mathematics, there are no GMAT-truths. x>-1 must not be true, since it ignores the fact that 0 does not fulfill the requirement.
No one is "talking themselves into a solution" here, and there's nothing wrong with the mathematics. I explained why earlier, but I can use a simpler example. If a question reads
If x = 5, what must be true?
I) x > 0
then clearly I) must be true; if x is 5, then x is certainly positive. It makes no difference that x cannot be equal to 12, or to 1000.
The same thing is happening in this question. We know that either -1 < x < 0, or that 1 < x. If x is in either of those ranges, then certainly x must be greater than -1. It makes no difference that x cannot be equal to 1/2, or to 0.
This is an important logical point on the GMAT (even though the question in the original post is not a real GMAT question), since it comes up all the time in Data Sufficiency. If a question asks
Is x > 0?
1) x = 5
that is exactly the same question as the one I asked above, but now it's phrased as a DS question. This question is really asking, when we use Statement 1, "If x = 5, must it be true that x > 0?" Clearly the answer is yes. If you misinterpret this question, and think it's asking "can x have any positive value at all", you would make a mistake on this question and on most GMAT DS algebra questions. _________________
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as bunnel said: X>-1 will always hold condition true.
If i take value as 0.5 which is greater then -1
.5/|.5|=1 which is not less then 1
for me -1<x<0 and x>1 both holds true.
Bunuel wrote:
nmohindru wrote:
If \(\frac{x}{|x|}<x\) which of the following must be true about \(x\)?
(A) \(x>1\)
(B) \(x>-1\)
(C) \(|x|<1\)
(D) \(|x|=1\)
(E) \(|x|^2>1\)
This question was well explained by Durgesh and Ian Stewart, but since there are still some doubts, I'll try to add my 2 cents.
First of all let's solve this inequality step by step and see what is the solution for it, or in other words let's see in which ranges this inequality holds true.
Two cases for \(\frac{x}{|x|}<x\):
A. \(x<0\) --> \(|x|=-x\) --> \(\frac{x}{-x}<x\) --> \(-1<x\) --> \(-1<x<0\);
B. \(x>0\) --> \(|x|=x\) --> \(\frac{x}{x}<x\) --> \(1<x\).
So given inequality holds true in the ranges: \(-1<x<0\) and \(x>1\). Which means that \(x\) can take values only from these ranges.
------{-1}xxxx{0}----{1}xxxxxx
Now, we are asked which of the following must be true about \(x\). Option A can not be ALWAYS true because \(x\) can be from the range \(-1<x<0\), eg \(-\frac{1}{2}\) and \(x=-\frac{1}{2}<1\).
Only option which is ALWAYS true is B. ANY \(x\) from the ranges \(-1<x<0\) and \(x>1\) will definitely be more the \(-1\), all "red", possible x-es are to the right of -1, which means that all possible x-es are more than -1.
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