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If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
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If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = y + z, is the hundreds digit of x equal to the sum of the hundreds digits of y and z ?
(1) The tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digits of y and z. (2) The units digit of x is equal to the sum of the units digits of y and z.
Is it safe to conclude that the place value of an integer number (represented as a sum of different integers), depends upon only the preceding place value of integers being summed up?
for eg: x=1000a+100b+10c+1d y=1000e+100f+10g+1h z=1000l+100m+10n+1p if z=x+y then
is l only dependent upon value of b and f or some other parameters also??
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18 Sep 2012, 10:04
conty911 wrote:
If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = y + z, is the hundreds digit of x equal to the sum of the hundreds digits of y and z ?
(1) The tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digits of y and z. (2) The units digit of x is equal to the sum of the units digits of y and z.
Is it safe to conclude that the place value of an integer number (represented as a sum of different integers), depends upon only the preceding place value of integers being summed up?
for eg: x=1000a+100b+10c+1d y=1000e+100f+10g+1h z=1000l+100m+10n+1p if z=x+y then
is l only dependent upon value of b and f or some other parameters also??
Question is demanding 100 digit of Y + 100 digit of Z is equal to 100 digit of X, means there will not be any carryover from the sum of tens digit of Y and Z. therefore from Option 1, sum of tens digit of Y and Z equal to of X means there will not be any carryforward from here to 100 digit of Y and Z. therefore option 1 is sufficient to answer. Option 2 unit digit sum is equal, will not give any indication whether tens digit will not carryforward any to hundered. therefore this is not sufficient.
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Let x= a b c y = d e f z= g h i
x= y+z
1 --> b= e+h which in turn implies c=f+i and so a=d+g (and this implies there is no carry forward in the addition of units and tens place digit of the two numbers)
2--> c=f+i which does not tell us if b= e+h(as there could be a carry forward bcos of this addition to the hundred place)
Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
18 Sep 2012, 20:13
The concern here is the sum of the tenth digit might have a carryover, so the sum of the hundredth digit on Y & Z might not be equal to X's hundredth digit. So A is the right answer.
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x = ABC y = DEF z = GHI
DEF +GHI _____ ABC
Question: Is D + G = A? This is true if there is no carry-over from the tens digits' sum.
1. E + H = B, This means there is no carry over to hundreds position. SUFFICIENT. 2. C + F = I, This means there is no carry over to tens position BUT we do not know if there will be a carry over during the sum of tens. INSUFFICIENT.
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Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
14 Jan 2013, 01:52
abhishekkpv wrote:
Let x= a b c y = d e f z= g h i
x= y+z
1 --> b= e+h which in turn implies c=f+i and so a=d+g (and this implies there is no carry forward in the addition of units and tens place digit of the two numbers)
2--> c=f+i which does not tell us if b= e+h(as there could be a carry forward bcos of this addition to the hundred place)
and so the answer is A
so this is sort of a number property? _________________
Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
23 Feb 2013, 02:18
Let the 3 digit numbers be, x=ABC y=DEF z=GHI
Now, its given that DEF + GHI _____ ABC _____
Statement 1---- says that E+H=B. Substitute any digit for E and H, you will find that D+G must be equal to A. Sufficient Statement2.......says F+I=C. E and H can be anything and in turn D and G can be anything. Not sufficient. _________________
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Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
13 Apr 2013, 10:23
abhishekkpv wrote:
Let x= a b c y = d e f z= g h i
x= y+z
1 --> b= e+h which in turn implies c=f+i and so a=d+g (and this implies there is no carry forward in the addition of units and tens place digit of the two numbers)
2--> c=f+i which does not tell us if b= e+h(as there could be a carry forward bcos of this addition to the hundred place)
and so the answer is A
my confusion is the following regarding (1). maybe i am not reading the question right, but assume the following:
y: 6 4 3 z: 4 4 2
x: 1 0 8 5
so, the tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digit of y + z. however, the hundreds digit, 6 + 4 = 1 0. The hundreds digit of x would be 0. can someone please explain? thank you
Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
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mokura wrote:
my confusion is the following regarding (1). maybe i am not reading the question right, but assume the following:
y: 6 4 3 z: 4 4 2
x: 1 0 8 5
so, the tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digit of y + z. however, the hundreds digit, 6 + 4 = 1 0. The hundreds digit of x would be 0. can someone please explain? thank you
Your problem is very simple : "x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers". x cannot be 1085, it must be \(\leq{999}\)
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Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
13 Apr 2013, 10:29
Zarrolou wrote:
mokura wrote:
my confusion is the following regarding (1). maybe i am not reading the question right, but assume the following:
y: 6 4 3 z: 4 4 2
x: 1 0 8 5
so, the tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digit of y + z. however, the hundreds digit, 6 + 4 = 1 0. The hundreds digit of x would be 0. can someone please explain? thank you
Your problem is very simple : "x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers". x cannot be 1085, it must be \(\leq{999}\)
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ouffff thanks so much for the quick reply and clarification. should re-read the question next time
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fozzzy wrote:
If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = y + z, is the hundreds digit of x equal to the sum of the hundreds digits of y and z ?
(1) The tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digits of y and z. (2) The units digit of x is equal to the sum of the units digits of y and z.
Is there an alternative approach for this problem?
The question basically asks whether there is a carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place.
Consider the following examples: (i) 123 234 357
Here when we add the tens digits 2 and 3 there is no carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place, thus the hundreds digit of x (3) is equal to the sum of the hundreds digits of y (1) and z (2).
(ii) 153 147 300
Here when we add the tens digits 5 and 4 and carry over 1 from the units place, we get 10, so we have carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place, thus the hundreds digit of x (3) does NOT equal to the sum of the hundreds digits of y (1) and z (1).
The first statement implies that there is no carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place, thus the hundreds digit of x is equal to the sum of the hundreds digits of y and z. Sufficient.
The second statement does not provide us with sufficient information about carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place.
Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
19 Jan 2014, 09:16
For Statement I my problem pertains to the fact that the ten's digit of x will be expressed as ten's digit of y + ten's digit of z. But if y=190 ,z=190 then x =380 the 1 does carry over from the ten's digit. Although the ten's digit of x is the sum of ten's digit of y and z.
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Abheek wrote:
For Statement I my problem pertains to the fact that the ten's digit of x will be expressed as ten's digit of y + ten's digit of z. But if y=190 ,z=190 then x =380 the 1 does carry over from the ten's digit. Although the ten's digit of x is the sum of ten's digit of y and z.
Please Elaborate
The tens digit of y is 9 and the tens digit of z is 9 --> 9+9=18 not 8.
Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
17 Dec 2014, 04:18
Bunuel wrote:
Abheek wrote:
For Statement I my problem pertains to the fact that the ten's digit of x will be expressed as ten's digit of y + ten's digit of z. But if y=190 ,z=190 then x =380 the 1 does carry over from the ten's digit. Although the ten's digit of x is the sum of ten's digit of y and z.
Please Elaborate
The tens digit of y is 9 and the tens digit of z is 9 --> 9+9=18 not 8.
Hope it's clear.
Can you please clarify this. I am not sure why the carry over of 1 will not happen.
If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
17 Dec 2014, 04:35
Bunuel wrote:
ColdSushi wrote:
Hi Guys,
I thought statement #1 can't be correct alone because (I thought) we must know that BOTH the unit & the tens digits do not carry over:
i.e.
153 147 300
vs
152 147 299
Don't we need to know that both to confirm that the hundreds digit is a 3 rather than 2?
But in your second example there IS a carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place. No?
Ok let me clarify my question:
153 147 300
In this case the hundreds digit became 3 because the unit total 10 --> carries 1 to the tens digit --> tens digit adds to 10, so carries 1 to the hundreds digit. The hundreds digit thus = 3
vs
152 147 299
In this case the hundreds digit remains 2 because the unit total didn't exceed 9 --> nothing carries over to the tens digit (i.e. tens digit remains 9), The hundreds digit thus = remains 2
So don't we need to know the unit digit AND the tens digit to confirm whether the hundreds digit will remain 2 or pushed to 3?
Re: If x, y, and z are three-digit positive integers and if x = [#permalink]
17 Dec 2014, 05:14
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ColdSushi wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
ColdSushi wrote:
Hi Guys,
I thought statement #1 can't be correct alone because (I thought) we must know that BOTH the unit & the tens digits do not carry over:
i.e.
153 147 300
vs
152 147 299
Don't we need to know that both to confirm that the hundreds digit is a 3 rather than 2?
But in your second example there IS a carry over 1 from the tens place to the hundreds place. No?
Ok let me clarify my question:
153 147 300
In this case the hundreds digit became 3 because the unit total 10 --> carries 1 to the tens digit --> tens digit adds to 10, so carries 1 to the hundreds digit. The hundreds digit thus = 3
vs
152 147 299
In this case the hundreds digit remains 2 because the unit total didn't exceed 9 --> nothing carries over to the tens digit (i.e. tens digit remains 9), The hundreds digit thus = remains 2
So don't we need to know the unit digit AND the tens digit to confirm whether the hundreds digit will remain 2 or pushed to 3?
(I'm not sure why I'm just not getting it!!)
Your first example does NOT satisfy the first statement: the tens digit of x is equal to the sum of the tens digits of y and z. So, it'as not valid. Sorry, cannot explanation any better. _________________
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