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If (y+3)(y-1) (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1), what is the value of y?

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If (y+3)(y-1) (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1), what is the value of y?  [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2008, 10:57
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If (y+3)(y-1) – (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1), what is the value of y?

(1) r^2 = 25
(2) r = 5

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i read a couple explanations on here that i didn't understand, like:

"(y+3)(y-1) – (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1)
5(y-1)=r(y-1)

r=5 satisfied both conditions. " E

and

"5(y-1)=5(y-1) ==> y can be any number.

we found that: r(y-1)=5(y-1).

(1) r=+/- 5

if r=-5 -> y=1
if r=5 -> y= any number ==> we need one value only. Insuff.

(2) r=5 -> y= any number ==> we need one value only. Insuff. " E

but they don't make sense...
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Re: geometry... kind of [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2008, 11:18
dominion wrote:
If (y+3)(y-1) – (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1), what is the value of y?

(1) r^2 = 25
(2) r = 5


i read a couple explanations on here that i didn't understand, like:

"(y+3)(y-1) – (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1)
5(y-1)=r(y-1)

r=5 satisfied both conditions. " E

and

"5(y-1)=5(y-1) ==> y can be any number.

we found that: r(y-1)=5(y-1).

(1) r=+/- 5

if r=-5 -> y=1
if r=5 -> y= any number ==> we need one value only. Insuff.

(2) r=5 -> y= any number ==> we need one value only. Insuff. " E

but they don't make sense...



I'll try:

the equality itself says that r=5. does this information help us find y? no.
let's see what 1 and 2 tell us.
1. r can be +-5, but we don't care about that, do you agree?
2. r=5. once again, we only have a repetition of what is stated in the text.

neither 1 nor 2 help find y. y can be any value. let's try:

y=1 and r=5:
we have 0=0 so it's ok

let's try with 2, same thing

let's try with 3: we find always r=5.

is that a good explanation?
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Re: geometry... kind of [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2008, 11:25
dominion wrote:
If (y+3)(y-1) – (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1), what is the value of y?

(1) r^2 = 25
(2) r = 5


i read a couple explanations on here that i didn't understand, like:

"(y+3)(y-1) – (y-2)(y-1) = r(y-1)
5(y-1)=r(y-1)

r=5 satisfied both conditions. " E

and

"5(y-1)=5(y-1) ==> y can be any number.

we found that: r(y-1)=5(y-1).

(1) r=+/- 5

if r=-5 -> y=1
if r=5 -> y= any number ==> we need one value only. Insuff.

(2) r=5 -> y= any number ==> we need one value only. Insuff. " E

but they don't make sense...


Can I ask what is the source of this question ?
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Re: geometry... kind of [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2008, 22:51
\(5*(y-1) = r*(y-1)\)

From ( i )

\(r=+/-5\)

Insufficient

From ( ii )

r=5

y can be any value!

Therefore "E"
Re: geometry... kind of   [#permalink] 19 Jan 2008, 22:51
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