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As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.
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As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

A and D are both correct. Kaplan is definitely wrong on this.
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GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

A and D are both correct. Kaplan is definitely wrong on this.

are you sure? I think its A.
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Only A is correct.
Both A and D cannot be correct. As rightly said, for SANAM pronouns, of which None is one of them, we need to look at the subject after the "of" construction to determine the verb and hence the plural verb "have" agrees with plural subject "friends"
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I would pick D.

...not one of my friends has been able to ...

If you reverse none, it becomes "one". "one" is singular...

I haven;t read this anywhere, I just came up with it.

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D. is correct. Noe take singular verb in this case
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Wow, I would have thought A as well.

MGMAT (and almost all other GMAT books I've read) say to watch out for SANAM, which includes None.

None of my friends...isn't that plural? I don't see how that could be considered singular.
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23 Aug 2007, 20:39
I'd like to amend my answer.

Here is what I think causes your confusion.

[b]None of my friends has been able to...

vs.

None of my friends that have been able to...[/b]
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GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

Certainly a valid doubt.

Well, as per my references (past discussions, websites), "none" can be used as 'Singular' as well as 'Plural' depending upon what you would like to emphasis.

So, I believe in GMAT, you will not get two options like A and D.
If you closely look at the OG contents, you will find that most of the times "none" is used as Plural but I guess there are few instances where "none" is used as Singular also.

However, I have never found any discrepancy in GMAT questions as such given in this SC.

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27 Aug 2007, 12:36
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GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

Certainly a valid doubt.

Well, as per my references (past discussions, websites), "none" can be used as 'Singular' as well as 'Plural' depending upon what you would like to emphasis.

So, I believe in GMAT, you will not get two options like A and D.
If you closely look at the OG contents, you will find that most of the times "none" is used as Plural but I guess there are few instances where "none" is used as Singular also.

However, I have never found any discrepancy in GMAT questions as such given in this SC.

- Brajesh

hmmm... SANAM vs. Singular SANE
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GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

D for me.
Everyone knows "none" can be either singular or plural. In this case (in my opinion) none refers to one person, which is singular.
If you use "none of my friends have", it sounds like many friends are solving the puzzle together at the same time where only one person can solve at a time because it is in the newspaper.

Correct me please if I am wrong, I just want to get better.

Here is an example I use for plural "none":
None of these things move me.
This one clearly shows "none" as plural.
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Leave it to Kaplan to confuse the heck out of you! Had i gotten this question on the real thing? I would have put down A as well.
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IMO, you can look at "none" in two ways:
1) "none" as the opposite of "all" would require plural
2) when you want to emphasize individual members of a group, then you need a singular verb.

As to the answer of the question, I am definately for D.
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GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

MGMAT also says that if you are not sure between correct singular and plural then take SINGULAR as it is 99% correct on GMAT.
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27 Aug 2007, 20:42
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dahcrap wrote:
GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

A and D are both correct. Kaplan is definitely wrong on this.

are you sure? I think its A.

http://www.urch.com/forums/392642-post13.html

I will go with what MGMAT says over Kaplan from now on....
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dahcrap wrote:
GMAT_700 wrote:
As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week’s newspaper.

A)none of my friends have been able to solve
B)none of my friends was able to solve
C)not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
D)none of my friends has been able to solve
E)nobody among my friends have solved

The Kaplan book says: The correct answer is D because none is singular and it should be has instead of have.

However, according to Manhattan GMAT book, when we have:
None, Any, Some, All, Most, we should look at the “of” construction.
For example:
Some of the money WAS …….
Some of the documents WERE

So, I am getting confuse because to me the answer should be A. If you know how to explain the correct answer, please let me know.

A and D are both correct. Kaplan is definitely wrong on this.

nothing wrong with A and D, both are correct.

this kind of ambigious question we find in materials other than OG. so we have to be very careful on these materials.

this question would be a good one if it had only one of these two choices as OA.
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Yes A is the only right answer here

A. Subject Verb Agreement: pg 30 in MGMT Sentence Correction Book.
(SANAM PRONOUNS- The pronoun None is plural because friends is plural) therefore "D" can not be the answer
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botirvoy wrote:
IMO, you can look at "none" in two ways:
1) "none" as the opposite of "all" would require plural
2) when you want to emphasize individual members of a group, then you need a singular verb.

As to the answer of the question, I am definately for D.

Exactly, I would choose D for the same reason. These is what I found in a dictionary:

—Usage note: Since none has the meanings “not one” and “not any,” some insist that it always be treated as a singular and be followed by a singular verb: The rescue party searched for survivors, but none was found. However, none has been used with both singular and plural verbs since the 9th century. When the sense is “not any persons or things” (as in the example above), the plural is more common: … none were found. Only when none is clearly intended to mean “not one” or “not any” is it followed by a singular verb: Of all my articles, none has received more acclaim than my latest one.
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28 Aug 2007, 12:30
Anyone know whether this is an OG question.

This question answers the none concept if it is an OG question.

The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.

(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being
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Some relevant SC1000 questions. Although they are not necessarily testing this concept. OA's are under each question.

536. None of the attempts to specify the causes of crime explains why most of the people exposed to the alleged causes do not commit crimes and, conversely, why so many of those not so exposed have.
(A) have
(B) has
(C) shall
(D) do
(E) could

OA D

544. Of all the wild animals in their area, none was more useful to the Delaware tribes than the Virginia white tailed deer: it was a source of meat, and its hide was used for clothing, its antlers and bones for tools, and its sinews and gut for bindings and glue.
(A) deer: it was a source of meat, and its hide was used for clothing, its antlers and bones for tools, and its sinews and gut
(B) deer: it was a source of meat, and its hide used for clothing, with its antlers and bones for tools, and its sinews and gut used
(C) deer: which was a source of meat, with its hide used for clothing, antlers and bones for tools, as well as its sinews and gut used
(D) deer: which, as well as being a source of meat, its hide was used for clothing, its antlers and bones for tools, and its sinews and gut were
(E) deer: with, as well as being a source of meat, its hide used for clothing, its antlers and bones for tools, and its sinews and gut

OA A
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