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IMO D Students in the metropolitan school district lack [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 06:16
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Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.

(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming -->such ... as to is unidiomatic

(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes --> enough ... that is unidiomatic

(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes -->ungrammatical structure

(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming --> so ...as to be ... is idiomatic.

(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming --> no possessive relationship is made between city & economy. It should be city's economy. Besides, so lacking is ungrammatical
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 06:38
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Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.

(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming -->such ... as to is unidiomatic

(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes --> enough ... that is unidiomatic

(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes -->ungrammatical structure

(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming --> so ...as to be ... is idiomatic.

(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming --> no possessive relationship is made between city & economy. It should be city's economy. Besides, so lacking is ungrammatical


You're right about the idiom "so..as to be", but what about other errors such as city's economy? Look at E, "so..that" is also the correct idiom.

To me, its between A & E....i'll go with E.
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 06:46
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Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.

(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming -->such ... as to is unidiomatic

(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes --> enough ... that is unidiomatic

(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes -->ungrammatical structure

(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming --> so ...as to be ... is idiomatic.

(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming --> no possessive relationship is made between city & economy. It should be city's economy. Besides, so lacking is ungrammatical


You're right about the idiom "so..as to be", but what about other errors such as city's economy? Look at E, "so..that" is also the correct idiom.

To me, its between A & E....i'll go with E.


In E: it should be city's economy, not city economy

lack is a verb, so are so lacking is ungrammatical
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 06:48
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(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming --> so ...as to be ... is idiomatic.

Are you sure about that? any proof?


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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 07:01
In A and E i feel the pronoun "it" does not have a proper referent.

So X as to be Y is the correct idiom. I prefer D .
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 07:12
imo it should be A or E

I'll go with E - So X that Y ---->idiom
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 17:07
Man, once again I forgot lacking here can be an adjective, not a verb in continuous tense, so so lacking ... that ... in E is grammatically correct

Btw, although so X as to be Y is correct idiom, ... so much in math skills as to be difficult to ... seems unidiomatic.

This seems hard to explain, I'll check it out
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 18 May 2009, 20:54
Minheequang wrote:
Man, once again I forgot lacking here can be an adjective, not a verb in continuous tense, so so lacking ... that ... in E is grammatically correct

Btw, although so X as to be Y is correct idiom, ... so much in math skills as to be difficult to ... seems unidiomatic.

This seems hard to explain, I'll check it out


idiom: so X as to be Y is applied when X and Y are of same word form (adj and adj, adv and adv)

But here: much plays its role as an adverb to modify for adj lacking, but difficult is ADJ, so D is incorrect
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 19 May 2009, 00:40
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Man, once again I forgot lacking here can be an adjective, not a verb in continuous tense

i think "lacking.....becoming " are verbs describing progressive and ongoing conditions. When lacking is an adj, it has different meaning.

If lacking here is verb, E is not correct

Idiomatic structure: S + V + so + adj + that + clause
but never a structure like: S + so + V + that + clause exists


adj lacking means stupid, and becoming ever more dependent ... is a participle phrase modifying for economy. There's no paralleled relationship between lacking and becoming
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 18:11
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Hey All,

Lots of great conversation surrounding this one. At MGMAT, we use this question to demonstrate a fundamental rule of sentence correction, namely that the correct answer often sounds terrible. The reason the correct answer here sounds so bad (and why many of you didn't pick it), is because of the use of the rare idiom so X as to Y, and the present participle. I'll explain:

Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.

(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
PROBLEM: So x as to Y is the idiom, as many of you pointed out. Also, the subject of "to absorb" is highly unclear. Who's absorbing them?

(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes
PROBLEM: "large enough degree that" is not idiomatic. "City's economy" makes it seem that there is some specific city, which is odd (though not inherently wrong). Finally "becomes" makes it seem as if this hasn't happened yet, but the point is that it is happening at present.

(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes
PROBLEM: You can't really have a "large" "lack of math skills". Same two points at the end as before.

(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming
PROBLEM: Again, the so X as to Y is wrong. City's economy remains weird.

(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
ANSWER: So X as to Y is correct. Becoming is a present participle modifying city economy, and it makes it clear that this is currently happening.

For what it's worth, all of these answer choices also have an ambiguous pronoun ("them" could be math skills or students), but apparently GMAT figured it wasn't important here. Silly GMAT.

Hope that helps!

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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 02 May 2010, 03:22
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Hey All,

Lots of great conversation surrounding this one. At MGMAT, we use this question to demonstrate a fundamental rule of sentence correction, namely that the correct answer often sounds terrible. The reason the correct answer here sounds so bad (and why many of you didn't pick it), is because of the use of the rare idiom so X as to Y, and the present participle. I'll explain:

Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.

(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
PROBLEM: So x as to Y is the idiom, as many of you pointed out. Also, the subject of "to absorb" is highly unclear. Who's absorbing them?

(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes
PROBLEM: "large enough degree that" is not idiomatic. "City's economy" makes it seem that there is some specific city, which is odd (though not inherently wrong). Finally "becomes" makes it seem as if this hasn't happened yet, but the point is that it is happening at present.

(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes
PROBLEM: You can't really have a "large" "lack of math skills". Same two points at the end as before.

(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming
PROBLEM: Again, the so X as to Y is wrong. City's economy remains weird.

(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
ANSWER: So X as to Y is correct. Becoming is a present participle modifying city economy, and it makes it clear that this is currently happening.

For what it's worth, all of these answer choices also have an ambiguous pronoun ("them" could be math skills or students), but apparently GMAT figured it wasn't important here. Silly GMAT.

Hope that helps!

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Wow, looks like you really know what you are talking about. Thanks a lot for your great explanation.
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Hey Cano,

Nice of you to say that, but I realize I kept referring to the idiom as "so X as to Y" when the sentence itself uses it as "so X that...", which is also legit. : )

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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 03 May 2010, 08:26
Hey Tommy,

for option D

(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming

PROBLEM: Again, the so X as to Y is wrong. City's economy remains weird.

>>> I have read that "so X as to Y" is correct form.. I understand that "city's economy" is weird but I am not sure if "so X as to Y" is wrong. Would appreciate if you can explain this?
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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 03 May 2010, 11:13
Hey Seek,

The problem here is that the idiom is NOT in the form you described. The idiom is "so X as to Y".

D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming

But this says "They are X so much as to Y". The "so" needs to go BEFORE the X (in this case, "lacking".

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Re: math skills [#permalink] New post 03 May 2010, 11:56
thanks very much....makes sense now.
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