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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 20 Feb 2005, 00:29
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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

A. his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
B. his translation of the Illiad, a work that took him seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is
D. translating the Illiad, a work that took seven years until completion and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it as
E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 18 Jun 2008, 03:07
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we need an "it" after pronounced. He pronounced that something was the greatest translation. So A & B are out.
In C , "it is" is incorect.

E uses past perfect incorrectly. Both events are in the past, the order of the events is clear we do not want to say that his translation completed before he began the translation. doesnt make sense. So my pick is D.

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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

A. his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
B. his translation of the Illiad, a work that took him seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is
D. translating the Illiad, a work that took seven years until completion and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it as
E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2008, 23:27
Why "pronounced it" is incorrect?

Or because we have t maintian parallelism

In this SC "pronounced" is used as a verb.

that took .........that pronounced

Please correct me if Iam wrong
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2008, 03:57
I was deciding betwwen B & E . Went for B because of the unclear pronoun 'it" in E .

Also understand that E has a verb issue , with had taken ( past perfect is not needed , past tense is needed)
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2008, 06:24
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guess I am late...I narrowed it down to between B and D. Initially D seemed right because of the use of 'it' at the end referring to Illiad, but on closer investigation, the use of 'that' in the answer choices weeds out the need for 'it' at the end.

'and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced' clearly refers to the Illiad hence use of 'it' again at the end would be redundant and GMAT hates redundancies :)...

so thats the way I would have narrowed down to B. Honestly I didn't even look at the usage of 'took him seven years to complete' and 'took seven years until completion' but yea the former is the better use of words.
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2010, 09:55
In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad,.................that literary critic Samuel Johnson...... pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Can someone pl help me out ........ I have two queries here:-

Firstly, Isnt "his translation of the Illiad" wordy as compared to "translating the Illiad" ???

And the next is :-

Shouldn't Pronounced be followed by "as" to mean "and that literary critic Samuel Johnson pronounced as the greatest translation in any language"
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2010, 00:36
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I am not denying that the answer is B given the choice options we have ......

But my point is that IF there would have been an AS after pronounced, wouldn't the answer have been better than the original sentence ???

Also, my query about the option being "wordy" still remains ??? If option B started with the words "translating..." , wouldnt that have been the perfect sentence ???
Or is there something wrong in saying translating rather than "his translation"
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 28 Jul 2010, 19:59
IMO B...

This is an OG question .. OG12.. Q48
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Re: SC: Alexander Pope [#permalink] New post 11 May 2011, 22:07
Two questions here:

a) Why is "as" not necessary?
b) Could not we interpret that "had taken seven years" is before "to complete" in the time line? In this sense, past perfect would be correct.

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Parallel problem 3 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2011, 04:41
I got it right, but OG (Q 48) answer explanation is confusing.
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Re: Parallel problem 3 [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2011, 00:15
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I got it right, but OG (Q 48) answer explanation is confusing.
Request SC gurus to throw some light.


sorry to dig up an old thread, but i have a question about answer choices c and e.


In 1713, Alexander Pope began

C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is

E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it

the greatest translation in any language.


when i first read through the past-perfect seemed incorrect to me. the "had taken ... to complete" implied that the "completion" occurred before the "began", so I removed those answer choices. The OG explanation says nothing about the past-perfect being wrong in these answer choices, so I looked over these again. Perhaps the "had taken" is clarifying the sequence of Samuel Johnson's pronouncing.

"a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic samuel johnson pronounced...."

so when taken with the original verb of "began" it makes no sense, but with the third verb of "pronounced" it does?




I'm not in argument that B is the answer, I just want to know if the past perfect is incorrect in C and E.
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2011, 00:42
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Between B and D: i think it is required. So D. further explanation needed from SC gurus.


it cannot be d

D. translating the Illiad, a work that took seven years until completion and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it as

"a work" is an appositive modifying the noun it touches, "the illiad", then "that" refers back to that same "work". it's not the illiad that took seven years to complete, but instead the translation.
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Re: Parallel problem 3 [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2011, 19:12
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akbism wrote:
I got it right, but OG (Q 48) answer explanation is confusing.
Request SC gurus to throw some light.


sorry to dig up an old thread, but i have a question about answer choices c and e.


In 1713, Alexander Pope began

C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is

E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it

the greatest translation in any language.


when i first read through the past-perfect seemed incorrect to me. the "had taken ... to complete" implied that the "completion" occurred before the "began", so I removed those answer choices. The OG explanation says nothing about the past-perfect being wrong in these answer choices, so I looked over these again. Perhaps the "had taken" is clarifying the sequence of Samuel Johnson's pronouncing.

"a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic samuel johnson pronounced...."

so when taken with the original verb of "began" it makes no sense, but with the third verb of "pronounced" it does?




I'm not in argument that B is the answer, I just want to know if the past perfect is incorrect in C and E.


can anyone clarify the use of past perfect here? I want to know if it's correct or incorrect
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2012, 17:29
I picked the answer B:

A. Although parallelism is maintained, the first part doesn't tell us anything because it lacks a verb to go with the clause. "Taking..." acts a verb-ing modifier that I believe modifies "a work that," but a verb is still needed to complete the sentence.

B. This is the correct answer because parallelism is maintained use of past tense is correct.

C. The use of "it" is not needed because "that literary critic" already refers to the work. Therefore, "it" is redundant. Also, I don't think that past perfect tense is needed, especially since simple past tense is sufficient. My reasoning for not using past perfect tense in this situation is because it is chronologically clear how the events occur - the work took 7 years, and then it was pronounced. Does past perfect really add anything here?

D. "Translating" acts a verb-ing modifier and isn't correct by itself, but it messes with the modifier "a work..." because this modifier now seems to modify the lliad instead of the translation. The use of "it" is redundant.

E. Same as D. The "that clauses" are not parallel.
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 23 Mar 2012, 13:23
Option B is the best fit in my opinion. C/E out because of past perfect tense.
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In 1713, Alexander Pope began [#permalink] New post 08 May 2013, 08:00
In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is
I am very much aware that this sentence is wrong answer choice.
But i wanted to understand this sentence wit respect to sentence split
C1: Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad
C2:a work that had taken seven years to complete
C3:that literary critic Samuel Johnson pronounced it is
Already the clause C3 has subject and verb along with that an IC follows marked by it is. so this sentence becomes run-on sentence..Is my understanding correct
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 08 May 2013, 15:27
I am still confused about the answer B. I do agree with the sentence, however, I do think there should be an "as" at the end of the sentence. To me "and that SJ pronounced the greatest translation" doesn't sound correct. Shouldn't it be "and that SJ pronounced as the greatest translation"?? anyone??
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 11 May 2013, 20:33
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 10 Jul 2013, 11:37
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guys don't you think that in D pronounced take an as which is necessary?
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 29 Jul 2013, 12:38
Guys need a quick clarification. I am convinced with option B, since all other choices have errors. But with B - my question is what is the role of "his" a possessive pronoun - how is it relevant here? is it not violating the possessive poison rule?
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Re: In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2013, 11:08
Dear Experts ,

What I want to know is
If there two parallel actions in simple past does that by any chance means that 2 actions happened at the same time ?
that is why we need Past perfect tense to tell if the 2 actions happened at different time ? Am I right ?

So going by the same logic
a work that took him seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced  the greatest translation in any language

Took and Pronounced are 2 actions in simple past . Did these 2 actions happened at the same time ?

So I thought we need Past perfect here !!
Kindly guide .

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